NASA about to reveal the truth about aliens

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.

On 11/30/2010 7:07 AM, Anne Onime wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.

Well, here's going to be in the conference if that gives any clues:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=32155

Pat

" Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people.
Well, here's going to be in the conference if that gives any clues:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=32155

Pat

Why do I expect a lot of hype followed by an announcement that could only be
appreciated by someone with a MS in chemistry or biology and the general
public wondering why we're spending tax money on such programs in times of
record deficits. Part of my standard gripe that NASA seems out of touch with
the general population.


Val Kraut

On 11/30/2010 10:21 AM, Val Kraut wrote:


Why do I expect a lot of hype followed by an announcement that could only be
appreciated by someone with a MS in chemistry or biology and the general
public wondering why we're spending tax money on such programs in times of
record deficits. Part of my standard gripe that NASA seems out of touch with
the general population.



There's been some speculation about it having to do with life being
detected on Titan:
http://www.ajc.com/news/has-nasa-fou...xtype=rss_news
But I think it having something to do with Mars would be more likely.
NASA got pretty quiet about those droplets of liquid seen on the Phoenix
lander's leg after they were photographed, maybe it has something to do
with that:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29634476...science-space/
Liquid water shouldn't be able to exist at the temperatures and low
atmospheric pressures that were occurring at the landing site when the
photos were taken.

Pat

On 11/30/2010 5:08 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
There's been some speculation about it having to do with life being
detected on Titan:
http://www.ajc.com/news/has-nasa-fou...xtype=rss_news
But I think it having something to do with Mars would be more likely.
NASA got pretty quiet about those droplets of liquid seen on the Phoenix
lander's leg after they were photographed, maybe it has something to do
with that:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29634476...science-space/
Liquid water shouldn't be able to exist at the temperatures and low
atmospheric pressures that were occurring at the landing site when the
photos were taken.

Well, whoop-de-doo.
NASA apparently found strange organisms using arsenic in their metabolism…
On Mars?
Nope.
On Titan?
Nope.
....in Yosemite National Park:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ke-in-USA.html

Pat

Well, whoop-de-doo.
NASA apparently found strange organisms using arsenic in their metabolism…
On Mars?
Nope.
On Titan?
Nope.
...in Yosemite National Park:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ke-in-USA.html

Pat

Maybe we could collect some and start a colony on Titan! I hope we're taking
precautions that Russian or Chinese agents disguised as tourists don't swipe
some for their programs. I can't help but envisioning a NASA budget hearing
where some Senator from nowhere asks "SO, Mr. Bolden, how much did it cost
the American taxpayers to find these here ARE-SEE-NIK eaten ORG-GAIN-ISMS
right here on our own home planet.


Val Kraut

On 1/12/2010 2:07 AM, Anne Onime wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.




If they're bacteria as conventionally defined, then it would merely be
indicative of the transport of biological material either from Mars to
Earth, or vice versa, something that is already know to be a theoretical
possibility, because rocks are known to have made the journey.

The finding of living organisms that are clearly not related to life on
Earth (e.g. completely different way of holding their 'genetic' material
- not based on nucleic acids) would be more significant.

A midway point would be the finding of organisms that use nucleic acids,
but with a completely different encoding for amino acids (the encoding
appears to be arbitrary).

Sylvia.

On 1/12/2010 2:07 AM, Anne Onime wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.




Turned out to be just a report about bacteria being found on Earth that
can use arsenic instead of phosphate.

yawn

Sylvia.

On Dec 2, 8:24*pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 1/12/2010 2:07 AM, Anne Onime wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.

Turned out to be just a report about bacteria being found on Earth that
can use arsenic instead of phosphate.

yawn

Sylvia.

Double yawn. I want my money back, because this grandstand show
sucks.

~ BG

Money money money money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d0Q3XkCiEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz-rsnW0wko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istE1bpoDPg

and gold

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptonomicon

Alright, here's the deal. There are 47,000 tonnes of gold in the
world and about 2,300 tonnes per year is produced at mines throughout
the world.

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/gold/

Now, there are about $3.3 trillion worth of notes around. $885
billion is US notes, another $800 billion Euros, and everyone else's
currency adds up to the balance.

At $80 per gram $3.3 trillion of gold equals 41,250 metric tons - a
little less than the gold in the world.

So, we could theoretically monetize the global economy with gold again
at prices near those we see today. The problem then becomes, how to
do it?

One way would be to take diameters depending on denomination from 0.35
mm to 0.055 mm diameter tungsten wire and coat it with layer of gold
increasing it to a thickness of 0.057 diameter - modifying the surface
treatment slightly along its length to change its reflectivity and
even color - and weave this thread into a circular socklike pattern
automatically using CNC process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uvL_KUq7Pg

which can be automated to a great degree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuGs25lXrqc

to produce 'pixels' on the note surface 0.06 mm in diameter (smaller
than can be resolved by the human eye) and flatten the cylinder on to
a PET base sheet where it is heat fused together to create a 'micro-
bullion' note containing the precise amount of gold called for woven
into the face of the note - creating a note 0.115 mm thick and the
width and length called for by the size of the note - with security
thread knitting the two faces together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YgwewQY-0

and it includes a QR Code knitted into each one - incorporating a
unique ID and a public data base of all the notes made their value and
other information which would be publicly available. Finally a tough
transparent laminate is infused into the fabric - to give the bullion
long life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a33uCPOywA

people may then use their cell phones to take a picture of each note
to verify its authenticity of each piece.

people may also execute a controlled melt down of their notes to
extract the gold from them if they wish.

Thus, microbullion replaces fiat currency through a private source.

Creating these adds value to the gold of course. So, a reasonable
coinage fee may be added. So, if they're made and sold at $100 per
gram - the weight of gold in each one would be;

$1 - 10 milligram
$5 - 50 milligrams
$10 - 100 milligrams
$20 - 200 milligrams
$50 - 500 milligrams
$100 - 1 gram
$500 - 5 grams

The weight of each note is 10 grams - with varying amounts of gold in
each. The weight of each note would depend on its area. If all were
the same size - as US notes are - each would weigh 12.5 grams - and a
cm of notes would contain 80 notes and weigh a kilogram. An inch of
notes would weigh 5.6 lbs! The same as an equivalent volume of gold.
(the bulk of each note under $50 would be tungsten, those over $50
would be mostly gold)

Now, the ease of using this bullion - denominated in centigrams -
(giving new meaning to the word 'cent') when sold at $1 per cent -
would be buying $0.40 to $0.50 of gold at today's prices - but this is
better than buying paper notes worth $0.06 or less for as much as
$100.


China has 1,900 tonnes of gold and produces 200 tonnes per year.
Their economy total $8.8 trillion.

I cannot find the total number of notes in circulation (renminbi or
yuan) - so assuming the ratio of notes to economic activity is the
same as that experienced by Europe or the USA, we have $551 billion in
value. At $100 per centi-gram they would need 5,510 metric tons to
monetize ALL their currency.

Since the Chinese have segmented their fiat currency from their actual
currency, they could easily do 1,900 tonnes ($190 billion) and add $20
billion per year to the total. They could also buy gold and rival the
US as a reserve currency. Which is something the Chinese seem to want
to do.

http://indonesia.sinosteel.com/detai...lum n_no=0203

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124616719675965215.html