Challenging Silouen

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:41:30 -0500, "Daniel Jackson"
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I have no 'objects' per se to give away.

Unless he claims to be a mere "concept" or "immaterial being",
I would say: this is a blatant lie :-)


Is this Silouen a he?Just curious.It appears so by your response.

Actually, no.
Nor a 'she'.
Our usage of 'he', 'she' or any other gender-specific term is usually
arbitrary and a result of the limitations of the language.
We can be referred to using either pronoun.
One is as incorrect as the other.

Silouen
yeah, bummer, I know about this whole divine being thing, with the lack
of
reproductive parts


Jack O'Neill: I just walked in with a handfull of ingredients for my
world-famous omelette!
Sam Carter: World-famous huh? What's in it?
Jack O'Neill: Eggs.
Sam Carter: I don't think that that actually qualifies as a recipe.
Jack O'Neill: Oh don't kid yourself, there's a secret ingredient I can't
tell you what it is or I'd have to shoot you.
Sam Carter: It's beer isn't it?



We have no lack of reproductive organs, Daniel.
We can act

I've heard it all already a long time ago.
Dont play with me.

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Thirteen kooksigns, well done.

You may resume kookdancing, saucerhead.

Ugh, Kimosabi.
This mean injun must sign treaty?
Then you must sign your honorary injun name:

Dances with Kooks

Silouenjawea

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, " Dances with Kooks " oh that's a good one
Sil!!!
Poor Bart Devo put down by a Star cutie again,
again,
again,
again,
again,
again,
again,
again,
again,
again,
and again,

ponder on,
the nightbat

Did you like my name, oh my dark and precious night?
This was one of the roles I've played while studying your peoples.
And I find it interesting that none of your historians can bring
themselves
to believe a tiny indian girl knew how to guide Meriwether Lewis and
William
Clark across the great land to the Pacific Ocean.
How could she know so many different languages and speak with every
native
on the trail?
Instead, the historians are astounded by the feat and belittle the
contribution.

And now to confess, for I feel I know you like a father.
Will and I made love under the stars beside a babbling brook.
We had an affair that would burn Art Dicko's socks off.


You just had to go and make nightbat jealous!

Otherwise, most of us just thought Lewis and Clark were a number! Ha!
Ha! Ha!


The other one, Lewis, was the studious one, always observing things.
I tried to bed him, too, but he was more interested in studying
everything
else.
And Lewis knew about Will and me, so he didn't care much for me --
he
was a
real 'prude'.


Remember the game-hunting foray up the Quicksand River?

I have spent much time fishing and smelt dipping on the banks of that
stream! The local chamber of commerce has gotten the name shortened
to
the Sandy River, but living up to its original name, it claims one or
more lives almost every year. At some places it appears shallow
enough
to walk across, but then once in the middle, suddenly there's no
bottom
under your feet and you're sucked under!


Mmm, yes, Hood Mountain erupted making it like that.
Most of that quicksand has washed away by now.
So it's not nearly as dangerous now as it was then.
Still gorgeous to see, though.

Sil


Good explanation. That volcanic ash "sand" is very fine, would be easy
to sink in!

Anyway, when you're in the vicinity again, I'll take you out to Tad's,
and we can sit on the riverside deck, and you can reminisce.

Double-A


Thank you, Double-A, very much!

Sil

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:58 GMT, "Silouen"

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I speak of 'fear' because almost everyone is afraid.

Must be some specific factor in America ;-)

Off with the tinted glasses, Charles!

A few people overcome their fear by being 'brave', by showing
'courage'.

Most people that I know have not enough time to be afraid because
they have their job and their family to care for.

Off with them, I say!

I speak of a trait which very few humans possess: Fearlessness.

You speak of something that I seldom run into: people with "fear".
Thank_to_God, even in hard times like these most people in my
world have no "fear".

Off, off, off!
Religions and deities were created to quell fear of many things.
Yet the outcome is that people end up fearing the deities and religions.
You seriously delude yourself by thinking that 'God_Fearing_People' have
no
fear.

And this goes way beyond the trait of bravery, of courage.
The overcoming of fear is not the lack of fear, it is merely the
overcoming
of it.

If you have nothing to fear, why should you "overcome" it?

'Ding' as it were.

To most humans a complete lack of fear goes hand-in-hand with
ignorance,
even stupidity.

Again: if there is something that is threatening you, fear is a sound
and
natural reaction. But for most people in this country there is nothing
they would have to be afraid of. There are no dangers in their daily
lives.

unDing sigh

Is this why you ask?
Do you see me as ignorant? or even stupid? because I speak of being
fearless?

I simply do not understand why you always talk about it. Looks like an
obsession to me.

Part and parcel as prelude to first contact, Charles.
Human obsession with fear leads to seeing my efforts as a similar
obsession
with fearlessness.
Unavoidable.


You most certainly know that all fear has it's roots in the fear of
D E A T H.

No, I do not know this.

Ask your Dr. Yu.. it's a simple (scientifically proven) fact of
psychology.

No need.
It's merely a human rationalization with little basis in fact.

Death is inevitable to most life on Earth.
Check the human death rate: presently over 56 million per year as
opposed
to over 130 million babies born.
People do not fear Death so much as they fear what may or may not be
their
fate After they die.

Wrong. Most people stopped to believe in any "afterlife", nevertheless,
they are very afraid if they are confronted with their own mortality.

Most people?
Charles, 'most people' on Earth believe in reincarnation, animal
transmigration or both.
Mortality is the source of little fear.
IMmortality -- now that's another matter entirely.

Fear has its roots and roost in uncertainty, the Unknown, as it were.

In order to fear the "unknown", you would need a bigger brain than most
people happen to have :-)

We (seans) target and explore the seemingly infinite unknowns in the
universe.

if you say so.

Humans, as a rule, do everything they possibly can to avoid the
unknown.

this is probably the reason why we invented science?

Fair point!
Science was created mainly to attempt to confirm the 'Truths' of
philosophy.
And eventually evolved to providing a better understanding of the
physical
universe.
Of the 6 billion + people in the world, how many would you say give a
hoot?

The number is so tiny -- there are so few people in the world who give a
rat's bum about science -- that any outside people cruising through and
doing a cursory study of humans would conclude you have no science at all
worth mentioning.

No science worthy of note.

Effectively, zero science.

Good of you to take credit in its invention, though, Charles -- "the
reason
why We invented science".
This does at least show fearlessness, a feeling of responsibility on your
part.

Paradoxically, they do Not usually work very hard to avoid ignorance.

I would agree if this would not come from someone who claims to
be outside :-)

Why would this be relevant to your choice?
Does Truth rely merely upon the observer? or moreso upon the observation?

And the problem is not so much fear itself but the physiological
reaction called
A N G S T.

Angst is a natural reaction to fear.

No, angst is the "TILT"-reaction of a body that sees no longer a
flight-fight option to deal with the stressor/fear-inducing element.

You just said the same thing I did with more detail.
It's okay, I do this a lot, too -- just ask Double-A. G
But at least you're thinking -- it's good that you're thinking, Charles.

To rid yourself of angst, simply rid yourself of fear -- be fearless.

No, to rid yourself of angst, remember that there are always better
ways to make your fear work for you.

Even better to let your fear go away, so You can work for You.

Having said this, I realize it's no mean feat for humans to rid
themselves
of fear.

Prozac?

You haven't even devised any viable tests along these lines.

test?

There are many tests for courage on Earth.
There are no positive tests for fearlessness.
There is only limited psychological testing (negative) to conclude
whether
or not someone is stupidly fearless.

Yubiwan tried to show you how.

He tried a lot of things, yes.

I'll bet you cannot even show me how he did this.

You may be right - neither fear nor angst are feelings
that I am bothered with very often.

So you blocked Yubiwan's effort from your mind because you are unafraid?
One would think if this were an area in which you were unafraid, you
would
have given her more of an argument just as you are giving me.
And her practical method for positively testing oneself for fearlessness
would be daisy-fresh in your mind.

Human fear is not only perfidious and insidious; fear Blocks wisdom
and
intelligence.

Adrenaline is good for muscle-activity .. using too much brain
in a fight for life situation could be dangerous.

Adrenaline is mainly used for emergencies.
While it gives you powers that may save you from harm, it is also the
physical source for 'angst'.
Have you ever felt AND USED adrenaline, Charles?
Feeling it flow and then not having to use it can send your body into
severe
shock.
If you use the adrenaline and survive the incident, your muscles will be
extremely sore for quite some time.
How precisely is any of this 'good'?

I can understand how acting without thinking can be good; this really
only
works when the fighter is well-trained.
Good fighting Habits are essential to combat.
But one must also be prepared to think on one's feet.
Hitting the ground running does very little good if you trip over a mine
on
the second step.

Why bat this around?
Courage unleashes thinking that has been blocked by fear.
But sometimes not enough, not nearly enough.
Better not to be afraid in the first place.
End of story.

This is one reason for the 'mob mentality'.

Yes, one.

As an e t e r n a l being I know that all these concepts are just
THINGS TO PLAY WITH.

The toys of Fear, Death and Angst?

No, just the "concepts", in a playful way, yes.

Some of your leaders like to play with them.
And when they play with fire? . . .

Hu?

What part are you questioning?

I like to play with the universe -- with the seemingly unlimited toys
in
the
sky.

Ok, so just do it and be happy.

So where is your real
PROBLEM?

Well, for one thing, I'm bored.

THAT'S very OBVIOUS.

Not by you, of course, Charles.
Actually, you're one of the most fascinating people I've come across.
It's this present job I'm on.
'Exploring' as Darla puts it, for glitches and gremlins in tons and
tons
of
data, sleep-inducing data.
'Good with the bad' and all that.

Other than chips with everything, I'm just absolutely over the moon.

Sil

There is so much you could do to bring happiness to other people, why
don't you start today? After all it's just 10 more days till X-mas!

C.

Let me begin here.
Be happy, Charles!
Enjoy Your Self !
Enjoy Everything there is about Your Self, even your tinted glasses and
your
argumentative personality.
I sincerely hope you live forever if that is what you want, if that would
make you happy!
I am a happy being when I think of your being around for a long, long
time.

And this goes for each and every being who is within reach of these
words!
And all their beloved, too!

Silouen

meow uses synthetic telepathy to torture, and no one stands up to them.

Why?


They use scrying, psychokinesis,everything.
Why?
Because I said they could.

Vapolluan

Charles D. Bohne wrote:
On 15 Dec 2005 06:58:35 -0800, wrote:

meow uses synthetic telepathy to torture, and no one stands up to them.

Why?

Who is "meow"?

What is "synthetic telepathy"?

He/she/it believes there is a reason for torture? So he/she/it is
American?

Why should anybody stand up?

Who is "them"?


And why do you expect us to care?

just remember these words, and repeat them often:

meow!: Too dumb to get it!

and you'll be fine....

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On 15 Dec 2005 06:58:35 -0800, wrote:

meow uses synthetic telepathy to torture, and no one stands up to them.

Why?

Who is "meow"?

What is "synthetic telepathy"?

He/she/it believes there is a reason for torture? So he/she/it is
American?

Why should anybody stand up?

Who is "them"?


And why do you expect us to care?

Dont sweat it.
The meowers are a great long string of usenet performance artists, said
string leading into the deep mysts of the path, and the past.
I am one too.


Daniel: Well maybe you can try coming up with something better than
inappropriate sarcasm.
Jack O'Neill: You want sarcasm? Nice to meet you.

Daniel Jackson wrote:
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On 15 Dec 2005 06:58:35 -0800, wrote:

meow uses synthetic telepathy to torture, and no one stands up to them.

Why?

Who is "meow"?

What is "synthetic telepathy"?

He/she/it believes there is a reason for torture? So he/she/it is
American?

Why should anybody stand up?

Who is "them"?


And why do you expect us to care?

Dont sweat it.
The meowers are a great long string of usenet performance artists, said
string leading into the deep mysts of the path, and the past.
I am one too.

And you believe in torture and exploiting freewill?

Is that meow! means these days?



Daniel: Well maybe you can try coming up with something better than
inappropriate sarcasm.
Jack O'Neill: You want sarcasm? Nice to meet you.

"Jennifer" wrote

Dont sweat it.
The meowers are a great long string of usenet performance artists, said
string leading into the deep mysts of the path, and the past.
I am one too.

And you believe in torture and exploiting freewill?

Don't worry, your kink is okay.

Is that meow! means these days?

If you want it to.

--oTTo--

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote

The meowers are a great long string of usenet performance artists, said
string leading into the deep mysts of the path, and the past.
I am one too.

As usual, that does not answer even one of my questions.

And yet you still act surprised.

And did not the Flonkensteiners defeat the meowers in those
famous meow-wars?

If there is anything lamer than the flonkers, I haven't seen it.

--oTTo--

"Charles D. Bohne"

I will not go gentle into that, good night. G

Sil

Good night? At 11:33 h in your time zone?

What, are me and Sil the only ones who stay up all
night drinking? Well then, good night!

--oTTo--

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On 15 Dec 2005 06:58:35 -0800, wrote:

meow uses synthetic telepathy to torture, and no one stands up to them.

Why?

Who is "meow"?

What is "synthetic telepathy"?

He/she/it believes there is a reason for torture? So he/she/it is
American?

Why should anybody stand up?

Who is "them"?


And why do you expect us to care?

Dont sweat it.
The meowers are a great long string of usenet performance artists, said
string leading into the deep mysts of the path, and the past.
I am one too.

And you believe in torture and exploiting freewill?

No.Why do you ask?


Is that meow! means these days?



Daniel: Well maybe you can try coming up with something better than
inappropriate sarcasm.
Jack O'Neill: You want sarcasm? Nice to meet you.