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![]() newedana wrote: ".................. However, man gradually turned out to be like an animal in viewing the nature ever since the first discovery of atomic structure by Rutherford, and the electron by Irish physicist G. J. Stoney and British physicist J. J. Thomson et al around 1897. They stated that the electron was nothing else than a mass particle building atoms of all the material system, in respect that its motion obeying projectile mechanics. The philosophical implication of their thoughts was profound. ...................... These ideologies say that reliable knowledge never comes from a shadowy work of human brain, but from real things touchable, visible and audible with their sensory organs, since human being is nothing else than a kind of animal species evolved from single-cell life happen to be emerged on the earth, according to Charles Darwin's evolutional doctrine. ....................." " ..................... Under this philosophical background, there emerged two basic physical theories in the beginning of last century. One was the quantum mechanical theory initiated by Max Plank, and the other was [a set of] two theories of relativity, proposed by Albert Einstein. .................. Both are allegedly particle physics based on the philosophy of materialism or positivism. In order to describe the nature with their logic of particle physics, energy and light that are essentially continuous entities in character had to be subdivided into unit particles. These particles were called quanta and photon, the smallest ultimate energy and light particles, indivisible further into much smaller units. However, this postulation was immediately against the natural law. .................." Dr. Hansik Yoon stated in the preface of his book, "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model". You may read the whole preface from http://www.yoonsatom.net Dr. Hansik Yoon continued. "............... It was the same idea as that the numerical gap between 1 and 2 could be filled with the smallest ultimate decimals of infinite numbers. It is a trick to persuade people to believe improbable things or events as real. If we use this trick, for example, we can readily prove that [the length of] two sides of a triangle is equal to the third one. ..................... However, obviously this is no more a triangle." "............... Continuous entities are theoretically impossible to subdivide into final subunits, since they are divisible endlessly, and subdivided final products have the same as their initia1 character. Energy and light are such entities. Atoms or bio-cells are exceptions, because they are impossible to be subdivided into much smaller unit particles without sacrificing their initial atomic or cellular characters. ........................" "............... For example, the quantum oscillator, the latest atomic model, was built based on this idea of particle physics. The kinetic energy of orbital electron orbiting in three dimensional space forming an electron cloud cannot balance out theoretically with its potential energy. .................. Nevertheless, these two energies of orbital electron are unreasonably balanced in the Shrodinger's wave equation. It conflicts with a plain truth of physical law. ..................... So the orbital electron of the quantum oscillator cannot perform a real oscillation, but only an imaginary oscillation in the mathematical equation. ..............................=AD......" Dr. Hansik Yoon also stated in the preface of his book that "............... The magnetism induced by this tiny persistent current ring that has allegedly the Meissoner's diamagnetism effect against external magnetism governs all the physicochemical phenomena occurring in material world. It is not the electric attraction force believed from the 17th century up to now. ..............................=AD..." From Dr. Yoon's book(http://www.yoonsatom.net). newedana My dear Newedana, You will deceive yourself so much if you will only rely on Dr. Yoon book. He practically misrepresented the entire foundation of science. Many of his data are wrong. His principles don't make any actual scientific sense. He is very creative though and *appear* to explain a lot.. but it's all just handwaving. I don't blame him though because he just couldn't accept the *unconvensional* ideas of physics. He wants to justify things as being purely classical and newtonian. This is the same problem with physicists like Uncle Al who can't accept the bizarre nature of qi. So they settle in the familiar world of QM and Relativity and the mathematical equations. Dr. Yoon is just a step backward from Uncle Al. The following is a brief account of what is reality. Fields are the real thing. Particles are just aspects of it. For illustration. Think of the head of your dick (or any guy dick). Imagine there are beings who can only see the dick head and not the entire body (whose anatomy from head to foot is invisible to him). He would think the dick head represents the entire person. But he is just not aware that the entire anatomy from head to toe, which represents the "fields" are what is the mother structure of the dick head (representing particle). So when he would see liquid sprouting from it or the dick oscillating or throbbing when entering a pussy. He would think it describes the dick angular momemtum, magnetic spin, mass, etc. Do you understand?? So don't treat particles as the main actors. They are just supporting cast like the dick. You must study the fields or the entire human anatomy. Another is that you must understand that before measurement, there is no properties in quantum system. I have direct constant experience in this. For example. When I'd treat migrane in your brain. I can project the neurons hidden EM scalar qi state (not yet known by science) in front of me anywhere I am in the planet and I can manipulate the unmanifested holographic template which can ultimately affect the wave function of your brain. I'm still thinking if mainstream humanity must be made aware of this. We are at a time when psychological balance is far from okay and something like this extra hidden function of reality may overwhelm the human psychological load. Although the worldwide scrutiny of this extended physics breakthrough may reverberate in all aspects of science, medicine, psychology, etc. We need to gauge the pros and cons of it. If you want to study qi. First read some good QM textbook. You must have utter mastery of it including the mathemetical formalism if you want to describe the physics of qi in all its glory. Don't waste time with Yoon. Study Qi and you will know firsthand that the teachings of many stuff in Quantum physics and even relativity is true.=20 p6 |
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![]() newedana wrote: ".................. However, man gradually turned out to be like an animal in viewing the nature ever since the first discovery of atomic structure by Rutherford, and the electron by Irish physicist G. J. Stoney and British physicist J. J. Thomson et al around 1897. They stated that the electron was nothing else than a mass particle building atoms of all the material system, in respect that its motion obeying projectile mechanics. The philosophical implication of their thoughts was profound. ...................... These ideologies say that reliable knowledge never comes from a shadowy work of human brain, but from real things touchable, visible and audible with their sensory organs, since human being is nothing else than a kind of animal species evolved from single-cell life happen to be emerged on the earth, according to Charles Darwin's evolutional doctrine. ....................." " ..................... Under this philosophical background, there emerged two basic physical theories in the beginning of last century. One was the quantum mechanical theory initiated by Max Plank, and the other was [a set of] two theories of relativity, proposed by Albert Einstein. .................. Both are allegedly particle physics based on the philosophy of materialism or positivism. In order to describe the nature with their logic of particle physics, energy and light that are essentially continuous entities in character had to be subdivided into unit particles. These particles were called quanta and photon, the smallest ultimate energy and light particles, indivisible further into much smaller units. However, this postulation was immediately against the natural law. .................." Dr. Hansik Yoon stated in the preface of his book, "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model". You may read the whole preface from http://www.yoonsatom.net Dr. Hansik Yoon continued. "............... It was the same idea as that the numerical gap between 1 and 2 could be filled with the smallest ultimate decimals of infinite numbers. It is a trick to persuade people to believe improbable things or events as real. If we use this trick, for example, we can readily prove that [the length of] two sides of a triangle is equal to the third one. ..................... However, obviously this is no more a triangle." "............... Continuous entities are theoretically impossible to subdivide into final subunits, since they are divisible endlessly, and subdivided final products have the same as their initia1 character. Energy and light are such entities. Atoms or bio-cells are exceptions, because they are impossible to be subdivided into much smaller unit particles without sacrificing their initial atomic or cellular characters. ........................" "............... For example, the quantum oscillator, the latest atomic model, was built based on this idea of particle physics. The kinetic energy of orbital electron orbiting in three dimensional space forming an electron cloud cannot balance out theoretically with its potential energy. .................. Nevertheless, these two energies of orbital electron are unreasonably balanced in the Shrodinger's wave equation. It conflicts with a plain truth of physical law. ..................... So the orbital electron of the quantum oscillator cannot perform a real oscillation, but only an imaginary oscillation in the mathematical equation. ..............................=AD......" Dr. Hansik Yoon also stated in the preface of his book that "............... The magnetism induced by this tiny persistent current ring that has allegedly the Meissoner's diamagnetism effect against external magnetism governs all the physicochemical phenomena occurring in material world. It is not the electric attraction force believed from the 17th century up to now. ..............................=AD..." From Dr. Yoon's book(http://www.yoonsatom.net). newedana To continue with the above. I'll give you some hope about Yoon. Although he misrepresented so many things. There is something in the last paragraph above. The right point of view to consider is that in addition to electric attractive force, there is also hidden magnetism effect that govern all physiochemical phenomena. Using microscopic scalar sensor. We can detect that in an element. It is NOT just the electric field at work. There is also some kind of magnetic coupling effect that escape the magnetic field probe such as stern gerlach experiment, etc. It is to this that qi is related. Contrary to science which says that only moving charges can produce magnetic field. We can precipitate magnetic field out of thin air or quantum vacuum without any moving charges or electron. Also try to study Lockyer stuff. I'm thinking if the magnetic effect involves the entire nucleus too where Lockyer argued it is not gluon and pion exchanging mediating strong force but entirely electromagnetic with magnetic moments hyperfunctions. We are still determining the validity (if there is) of his model and how qi is related to it all. Invest in qi research and you will learn many truth as it involves the most cutting edge area of Quantum physics and even relativity. p6 |
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At present day there is no reliable science concerned to the structure
of solid metal. Neither exists also a basic science for formation of metal alloy. For example, why iron does not make an alloy with copper? Why mercury does not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc.? You better read Dr. Hansik Yoon's New Physics' titled " Natural Science Founded on a New atomic Model" (www.yoonsatom.net). The answer for the problem ![]() according to his new principle. His atomic model is constructed with tiny persistent current rings surrounding its nucleus. Energy level of the current ring is higher when it is closer to its nucleus, just in reverse to that of current atomic model. There acts attraction between these orbital electron rings with resonant frequency, while repulsion takes place between them if they have non-resonant frequencies, which is determined by their orbital parameter. It is very natural, metals built with the same kind of atoms have a higher melting point, because all of their electron rings in their every electron shells are exactly the same respectively, thus there acts the strongest attraction between them to give a higher melting point. On the other hand metals built with different kinds of atoms have a lowerer melting point because they have limited number of electron rings mutually resonant in their electron shells, so weaker attractions between its component atoms to give a lowerer melting points. If their component atoms have no resonant electron rings at all in their structure they do not make an alloy, instead they have to repulse. You shoud note that k shells of all the element atoms have different radii, and L, M, N, ..etc. shells also, depending on their atomic volumes. For example, atomic volume of hydrogen is 14.1 while uranium's is 12. 5 despite that it is wrapped with 15 layers of electron shells. Imagine the radii of k shells of both atoms. I find in his book, the structure of metal ceystal is clearly explained, satisfying following physical characters: higher density, higher conductibity of heat and electricity, higher ductility and stiffness, and silvery apperance. newedana |
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"newedana" wrote in message
oups.com... At present day there is no reliable science concerned to the structure of solid metal. Neither exists also a basic science for formation of metal alloy. For example, why iron does not make an alloy with copper? Why mercury does not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc.? You better read Dr. Hansik Yoon's New Physics' titled " Natural Science Founded on a New atomic Model" (www.yoonsatom.net). The answer for the problem ![]() according to his new principle. His atomic model is constructed with tiny persistent current rings surrounding its nucleus. Energy level of the current ring is higher when it is closer to its nucleus, just in reverse to that of current atomic model. There acts attraction between these orbital electron rings with resonant frequency, while repulsion takes place between them if they have non-resonant frequencies, which is determined by their orbital parameter. It is very natural, metals built with the same kind of atoms have a higher melting point, because all of their electron rings in their every electron shells are exactly the same respectively, thus there acts the strongest attraction between them to give a higher melting point. On the other hand metals built with different kinds of atoms have a lowerer melting point because they have limited number of electron rings mutually resonant in their electron shells, so weaker attractions between its component atoms to give a lowerer melting points. If their component atoms have no resonant electron rings at all in their structure they do not make an alloy, instead they have to repulse. You shoud note that k shells of all the element atoms have different radii, and L, M, N, ..etc. shells also, depending on their atomic volumes. For example, atomic volume of hydrogen is 14.1 while uranium's is 12. 5 despite that it is wrapped with 15 layers of electron shells. Imagine the radii of k shells of both atoms. I find in his book, the structure of metal ceystal is clearly explained, satisfying following physical characters: higher density, higher conductibity of heat and electricity, higher ductility and stiffness, and silvery apperance. newedana [hanson] ahahaha.... yeah, yeah, yeah, right, sure and ok... but now, "why does mercury not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc."? ahaha... ahahanson |
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hanson wrote:
ahahaha.... yeah, yeah, yeah, right, sure and ok... but now, "why does mercury not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc."? ahaha... ahahanson You're idiot or jerk. Or both. |
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SIMPLE SONG aka "newedana" wrote in
ups.com... hanson wrote: ahahaha.... yeah, yeah, yeah, right, sure and ok... but now, "why does mercury not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc."? ahaha... ahahanson ["SIMPLE SONG" got caught his her pants down and angrily barks] You're idiot or jerk. Or both. [hanson] ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....... but now, "why does mercury not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc."? ...or did you just make a SIMPLE SONG because you do not know? ahahahaha... ahahanson |
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![]() hanson wrote: SIMPLE SONG aka "newedana" wrote in ups.com... hanson wrote: [snip brutal sexist stuff] [hanson] ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....... but now, "why does mercury not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc."? ...or did you just make a SIMPLE SONG because you do not know? ahahahaha... ahahanson Copper, silver, and gold, are in the same column of THE Periodic Table. They are not compounds. Iron cobalt is. Nickle is just plain weird (i before e except after w?). Atty (And then there was the time I was confronted by 30 LAPD queers ....) |
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![]() newedana wrote: At present day there is no reliable science concerned to the structure of solid metal. Neither exists also a basic science for formation of metal alloy. For example, why iron does not make an alloy with copper? Why mercury does not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc.? You better read Dr. Hansik Yoon's New Physics' titled " Natural Science Founded on a New atomic Model" (www.yoonsatom.net). The answer for the problem ![]() according to his new principle. His atomic model is constructed with tiny persistent current rings surrounding its nucleus. Energy level of the current ring is higher when it is closer to its nucleus, just in reverse to that of current atomic model. There acts attraction between these orbital electron rings with resonant frequency, while repulsion takes place between them if they have non-resonant frequencies, which is determined by their orbital parameter. It is very natural, metals built with the same kind of atoms have a higher melting point, because all of their electron rings in their every electron shells are exactly the same respectively, thus there acts the strongest attraction between them to give a higher melting point. On the other hand metals built with different kinds of atoms have a lowerer melting point because they have limited number of electron rings mutually resonant in their electron shells, so weaker attractions between its component atoms to give a lowerer melting points. If their component atoms have no resonant electron rings at all in their structure they do not make an alloy, instead they have to repulse. You shoud note that k shells of all the element atoms have different radii, and L, M, N, ..etc. shells also, depending on their atomic volumes. For example, atomic volume of hydrogen is 14.1 while uranium's is 12. 5 despite that it is wrapped with 15 layers of electron shells. Imagine the radii of k shells of both atoms. I find in his book, the structure of metal ceystal is clearly explained, satisfying following physical characters: higher density, higher conductibity of heat and electricity, higher ductility and stiffness, and silvery apperance. newedana The only way for Yoon model to have possibility of existence is if the law of physics inside the atom is not the same outside. I recommend you to get this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846 It shows the complete foundational development of Quantum Mechanics from Planck to Born. It has complete mathematics and the derivations of all equations from Bohr to Heisenberg to Schrodinger. It's one of a kind that you can't find in other books. Master it first before trying to debunk QM. Also try to get this. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance It's complete conceptual foundation and mathematics of Fourier methods that completely give the account of the atoms in terms of the wave properties of the electron. In Yoon book. He tried to remove the wave properties and make it completely modified Bohr orbit style. How can you ignore the fact that QM almost explain everything. To show Yoon can explain more than QM as well as explain the same data. You must try to explain how the Yoon methods can approximate all the wave behavior and calculations of QM. For it, you have to modify some of Yoon principles and add more such as more degree of freedtom inside the atomic realm. First have utter master of QM. Without doing that. How can you break it apart without knowing its full treatment of the fact and concepts. Goodluck. p6 |
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In sci.physics, Attila the Bum
wrote on 23 Jul 2005 14:23:37 -0700 .com: hanson wrote: SIMPLE SONG aka "newedana" wrote in ups.com... hanson wrote: [snip brutal sexist stuff] [hanson] ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....... but now, "why does mercury not dissolve iron cobalt and nickle despite that it dissolves gold, silver, copper and etc."? ...or did you just make a SIMPLE SONG because you do not know? ahahahaha... ahahanson Copper, silver, and gold, are in the same column of THE Periodic Table. They are not compounds. Iron cobalt is. Nickle is just plain weird (i before e except after w?). ITYM "nickel". As for "iron cobalt", I'm not sure precisely what that is but suspect it's more of a metallic alloy than a true covalent compound. However, I'm not all that skilled in chemistry. Iron: group 8; others in group: rubidium, osmium, hassium. Cobalt: group 9; others in group: rhodium, iridium, meitnerium. [.sigsnip] -- #191, It's still legal to go .sigless. |
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Mr. Ghost. I newedana posted for the problem you raised on April 25, 6:06 in the topic of sci. physics: physical basis for melting-points of allots? You may find how beautifully your question was explained in the post. This problem is almost impossible to explain with established science knowledge. If you want to know more you can read Dr. Yoon's textbook(www.yoonsatom.net). I am sure his book is now available in the University Library of Chicago, MIT, Stanford, Oxford, Cambridge, Berlin, and Congress Library of the USA. So you can read his book without buying it. newedana
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