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Old March 19th 11, 03:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy
Jonathan
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It's started!

For all those that complain that the US should now go after
every other dictator, like in Yemen and Bahrain and so on.
I say it's not practical, moral or ..wise for the US to take on
all the dictators of the world at the ...same time.

Our policy should be; The Worst...First!

As in we take on the worst of the dictators first.
One at a time. Right now it's Libya. And wait for
the next popular democratic uprising for us to act.
So we can act when the opportunity arises, not from
some politically motivated deadline of our choosing
as with Iraq.

Hopefully the Libyan campaign will set a template
for taking down other dictators in a similar situation
as in Libya. And once we successfully implement
a template for supporting democratic uprisings against
the .Worst the dictators the world has to offer.
The remaining (less dangerous) dictators will know
we can take them down too, that they're days
are numbered.

The old 'Domino Effect' only works for things
people want. Like democracy. It didn't work
for communism back in the Vietnam days, and
it won't work for terrorism either. Only popular
movements can snowball.

Just imagine all the benefits to the region if all these
countries in transition, Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Egypt
and Libya successfully build governments ruled by the
consent of the majority?


Jonathan

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Old March 19th 11, 03:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
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"News organizations reporting from Benghazi said
that a fighter jet was shot down on the outskirts of
the city. It was not immediately clear whether the
plane belonged to attacking Qaddafi forces or the
rebels, or how it had been shot down."

See photograph:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...ef=global-home

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Old March 19th 11, 03:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
Rob Arndt
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On Mar 19, 7:23*am, Marko Amnell wrote:
"News organizations reporting from Benghazi said
that a fighter jet was shot down on the outskirts of
the city. It was not immediately clear whether the
plane belonged to attacking Qaddafi forces or the
rebels, or how it had been shot down."

See photograph:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...html?_r=1&ref=...


The plane is identified as MiG-23BN of the LARAF.

Pic:
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...11564632-1.jpg

Rob
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Old March 19th 11, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
Marko Amnell[_2_]
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On Mar 19, 5:31*pm, Rob Arndt wrote:
On Mar 19, 7:23*am, Marko Amnell wrote:

"News organizations reporting from Benghazi said
that a fighter jet was shot down on the outskirts of
the city. It was not immediately clear whether the
plane belonged to attacking Qaddafi forces or the
rebels, or how it had been shot down." [...]


The plane is identified as MiG-23BN of the LARAF.


“Libya is not yours. Libya is for all Libyans,” Colonel
Qaddafi wrote in a letter addressed to Mr. Obama [...]
“This is injustice, it is clear aggression, and it is
uncalculated risk for its consequences on the
Mediterranean and Europe. You will regret it if you
take a step toward intervening in our internal affairs.”
Colonel Qaddafi addressed President Obama as
“our son,” in a letter that combined pleas with a jarring
familiarity. “I have said to you before that even if Libya
and the United States enter into war, God forbid, you
will always remain my son and I have all the love for
you as a son, and I do not want your image to change
with me,” he wrote.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...ef=global-home

Now what does that remind you of ? . . .

Thulsa Doom: My child, you have come to me my son.
For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well
spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will
have never been. What would your world be, without
me? My son.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082198/quotes

http://www.thorthebarbarian.com/site...hulsa-doom.jpg
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Old March 19th 11, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
Warhol[_1_]
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Default French jets over Libya!

On Mar 19, 4:59*pm, Marko Amnell wrote:
On Mar 19, 5:31*pm, Rob Arndt wrote:

On Mar 19, 7:23*am, Marko Amnell wrote:


"News organizations reporting from Benghazi said
that a fighter jet was shot down on the outskirts of
the city. It was not immediately clear whether the
plane belonged to attacking Qaddafi forces or the
rebels, or how it had been shot down." [...]


The plane is identified as MiG-23BN of the LARAF.


“Libya is not yours. Libya is for all Libyans,” Colonel
Qaddafi wrote in a letter addressed to Mr. Obama [...]
“This is injustice, it is clear aggression, and it is
uncalculated risk for its consequences on the
Mediterranean and Europe. *You will regret it if you
take a step toward intervening in our internal affairs.”
* *Colonel Qaddafi addressed President Obama as
“our son,” in a letter that combined pleas with a jarring
familiarity. “I have said to you before that even if Libya
and the United States enter into war, God forbid, you
will always remain my son and I have all the love for
you as a son, and I do not want your image to change
with me,” he wrote.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...html?ref=globa...

Now what does that remind you of ? . . .

Thulsa Doom: My child, you have come to me my son.
For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well
spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will
have never been. What would your world be, without
me? My son.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082198/quotes

http://www.thorthebarbarian.com/site...builderpicture...




I wonder what would happen in the USA if people got organized and
started an actual revolution to get rid of their present regime. Would
the government forces fight back? I'd say it's pretty likely. Would it
escalate to deadly force? Probably. Internal forces already use deadly
force against Americans, sometimes blatantly like in the case of the
police, sometimes not so blatantly like in the case of food poisoning,
radiation, misinformation and so on.

So if there were a USA revolution, would other countries condemn the
USA government and then subsequently attack it? Or would they support
the government and help squash the revolution? Or would they stay out
of it altogether?

What's your opinion? How would you feel in any of the above scenarios?
Really, I'm curious.
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Old March 19th 11, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
Jim Wilkins
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Default French jets over Libya!

On Mar 19, 12:09*pm, Warhol wrote:
On Mar 19, 4:59*pm, Marko Amnell wrote:





On Mar 19, 5:31*pm, Rob Arndt wrote:


On Mar 19, 7:23*am, Marko Amnell wrote:


"News organizations reporting from Benghazi said
that a fighter jet was shot down on the outskirts of
the city. It was not immediately clear whether the
plane belonged to attacking Qaddafi forces or the
rebels, or how it had been shot down." [...]


The plane is identified as MiG-23BN of the LARAF.


“Libya is not yours. Libya is for all Libyans,” Colonel
Qaddafi wrote in a letter addressed to Mr. Obama [...]
“This is injustice, it is clear aggression, and it is
uncalculated risk for its consequences on the
Mediterranean and Europe. *You will regret it if you
take a step toward intervening in our internal affairs.”
* *Colonel Qaddafi addressed President Obama as
“our son,” in a letter that combined pleas with a jarring
familiarity. “I have said to you before that even if Libya
and the United States enter into war, God forbid, you
will always remain my son and I have all the love for
you as a son, and I do not want your image to change
with me,” he wrote.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...html?ref=globa...


Now what does that remind you of ? . . .


Thulsa Doom: My child, you have come to me my son.
For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well
spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will
have never been. What would your world be, without
me? My son.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082198/quotes


http://www.thorthebarbarian.com/site...builderpicture...


I wonder what would happen in the USA if people got organized and
started an actual revolution to get rid of their present regime. Would
the government forces fight back? I'd say it's pretty likely. Would it
escalate to deadly force? Probably. Internal forces already use deadly
force against Americans, sometimes blatantly like in the case of the
police, sometimes not so blatantly like in the case of food poisoning,
radiation, misinformation and so on.

So if there were a USA revolution, would other countries condemn the
USA government and then subsequently attack it? Or would they support
the government and help squash the revolution? Or would they stay out
of it altogether?

What's your opinion? How would you feel in any of the above scenarios?
Really, I'm curious.-


France and Russia intervened in our revolution against Britain, and
Britain sided with the Confederacy during the Civil War.
http://www.netplaces.com/american-re...neutrality.htm

We are always condemned for whatever we do or don't do anyway and
don't really pay much attention to the whiners.

jsw
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Old March 19th 11, 04:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
Marko Amnell[_2_]
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On Mar 19, 6:09*pm, Warhol wrote:
On Mar 19, 4:59*pm, Marko Amnell wrote:
On Mar 19, 5:31*pm, Rob Arndt wrote:


On Mar 19, 7:23*am, Marko Amnell wrote:


"News organizations reporting from Benghazi said
that a fighter jet was shot down on the outskirts of
the city. It was not immediately clear whether the
plane belonged to attacking Qaddafi forces or the
rebels, or how it had been shot down." [...]


The plane is identified as MiG-23BN of the LARAF.


“Libya is not yours. Libya is for all Libyans,” Colonel
Qaddafi wrote in a letter addressed to Mr. Obama [...]
“This is injustice, it is clear aggression, and it is
uncalculated risk for its consequences on the
Mediterranean and Europe. *You will regret it if you
take a step toward intervening in our internal affairs.”
* *Colonel Qaddafi addressed President Obama as
“our son,” in a letter that combined pleas with a jarring
familiarity. “I have said to you before that even if Libya
and the United States enter into war, God forbid, you
will always remain my son and I have all the love for
you as a son, and I do not want your image to change
with me,” he wrote. [...]


Now what does that remind you of ? . . .


Thulsa Doom: My child, you have come to me my son.
For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well
spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will
have never been. What would your world be, without
me? My son. [...]


I wonder what would happen in the USA if people got organized and
started an actual revolution to get rid of their present regime. Would
the government forces fight back? I'd say it's pretty likely. Would it
escalate to deadly force? Probably. Internal forces already use deadly
force against Americans, sometimes blatantly like in the case of the
police, sometimes not so blatantly like in the case of food poisoning,
radiation, misinformation and so on.

So if there were a USA revolution, would other countries condemn the
USA government and then subsequently attack it? Or would they support
the government and help squash the revolution? Or would they stay out
of it altogether?

What's your opinion? How would you feel in any of the above scenarios?
Really, I'm curious.


I have a better question. I wonder what would happen if
the Flemish population of Belgium staged a revolution, took
over the Government and started to massacre the Walloons.
Would you want France and other countries to intervene
militarily to save the lives of the Walloons?

What's your opinion? How would you feel in the above scenario?
Really, I'm curious.

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Old March 19th 11, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
John J Stafford[_2_]
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Default French jets over Libya!

In article
,
Warhol wrote:

I wonder what would happen in the USA if people got organized and
started an actual revolution to get rid of their present regime. Would
the government forces fight back?


The plans are already in place. Very many plans.

For starters, Google REX-84
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Old March 19th 11, 05:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
John J Stafford[_2_]
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In article
,
Warhol wrote:

I wonder what would happen in the USA if people got organized and
started an actual revolution



Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
then follow the links at the bottom.
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Old March 19th 11, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,alt.philosophy,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.books
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On Mar 19, 10:09*am, Warhol wrote:

FRUIT CAKE LOONY TOON! Oh and you are really, REALLY bad troll.
 




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