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For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere
contains: Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of 4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. Where's the mainstream physics and science that's supposedly proving Earth isn't losing mass? ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On May 22, 8:09*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote: For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. Where's the mainstream physics and science that's supposedly proving Earth isn't losing mass? Where's the mainstream objective and quantified proof-positive, as to one way or the other? I guess we all know who in Usenet is on the side of Big Energy. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On May 23, 1:57*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 22, 8:09*pm, BradGuth wrote: On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote: For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available, unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. Where's the mainstream physics and science that's supposedly proving Earth isn't losing mass? Where's the mainstream objective and quantified proof-positive, as to one way or the other? I guess we all know who within Usenet is on the side of Big Energy. There's no question that Eden/Earth has been losing a minimum of 100 kg/sec, and otherwise our volumetric gaseous loss of helium and hydrogen may be as great as worth a tonne/sec. Of course the resident Borgs of our republican saturated mainstream status quo could care less, especially their Big Energy cares far less. *~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. Interesting how our news media is so screwed. More interesting is how the public is getting systematically screwed and apparently lowing every minute of it. Thank God for our "no child left behind" policy, as kids nowadays (especially the most educated) simply do not have to think for themselves. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” How much mass can Earth afford to lose? ~ BG |
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On May 29, 4:35*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote: For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” How much mass can Earth afford to lose? Don't you find it a tad odd, as to how Big Energy and their bought and paid for politicians have put their mutual faith-based foot down of this topic, especially when mentioning OCO or damn near anything associated with their ongoing global environmental impact. These mostly Republicans puppets and their and Zionist Nazi puppet masters must be so proud of themselves. ~ BG |
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On May 22, 9:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and the atmosphere contains: * * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3 Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3 We seem to know more about the perpetual loss of hydrogen and helium for the likes of other planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth. *http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2 saturation, at any given moment there’s a natural 25e6 kg flow of hydrogen getting made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s surface in order to create and sustain this average of 0.55 ppmv. *The question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or volumetric/sec exit away from Earth are we looking at? This topic pertaining to our 0.55 ppmv of atmospheric hydrogen and its escapement; *is it worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6 tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year? If the ongoing loss of H2 loss isn’t quite impressive enough, now we need to focus on our atmospheric helium that’s nearly ten fold greater by volume. Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer) could have been representing a false positive, all be its observationology given that nifty artificial eye-candy hue of yellow and reddish colorized EUV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen. *However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as most easily accomplished from our the surface of our Selene/moon or best from it's L1 that oddly we still do not have to work with. Existing EUV, UV and IR imaging: *http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html *The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of having been protecting our upper most atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past 2000 years this too has been going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even –120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On the other hand, would anyone care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away? *http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us *http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/ Of course our perpetual naysayers and the usual evidence excluding gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed clowns of perpetual obfuscation and denial are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing geomagnetic force and thereby of its subsequent fading magnetosphere. *It’s as though our best physics and/ or objective science doesn’t hardly matter, unless it’s strictly interpreted by those in charge in order to sustain their mainstream status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is but worth used toilet paper, and whatever NASA mishaps of botched or failed missions are not to be taken seriously, if at all. I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of *4 decades ago, including a 10x TRACE-II, plus many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at the whole sphere of Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having such a nifty remote perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly impossible to interpret whatever's going on. Btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of the vast bulk of the previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly Earth never loses mass, whereas instead Earth supposedly gains several thousand tonnes per year. *However, I was clearly the first contributor in this or any other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each been losing a great deal of mass, and implying that the modern day human race has in fact been artificially assisting in this natural process. Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all the trouble of extracting minerals and raw exotic elements from another planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our Selene/moon, or appreciating as to that of whomever is taking substances of value away from Venus. Don't you folks find it a tad odd, as to how Big Energy and their bought and paid for politicians have put their mutual faith-based foot down of this topic, especially whenever mentioning OCO or damn near anything associated with their ongoing global environmental impact. These mostly Republican puppets and their and Zionist Nazi puppet masters must be so proud of themselves. Notice how only their brown- nosed clowns and Usenet resident rabbis (three or more per bogus Usenet account) are placed in charge of topic/author stalking and mainstream damage control. ~ BG |
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On May 31, 5:16*pm, BradGuth wrote:
[snip all, unread] Nobody is listening. STFU. Tired of seeing this stupid ****ing thread endlessly bumped. Get a blog and rant to it where we don't have to see it. Ever. |
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On May 31, 6:25*pm, Eric Gisse wrote:
On May 31, 5:16*pm, BradGuth wrote: [snip all, unread] Nobody is listening. STFU. Tired of seeing this stupid ****ing thread endlessly bumped. Get a blog and rant to it where we don't have to see it. Ever. Apparently you don't believe in the regular laws of physics or place any value in the best available science. At least this topic is perfectly honest and real important, and otherwise the public has a right to know what's artificially happening to our global environment, and that sicko individuals like yourself actually exist. ~ BG |
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