Never mind the shuttle crash, the real threat is the CAIB report

There was a second skylab that was mothballed??? where is it?

National Air and Space Museum. You can walk through it.

It was flight ready, and the first of many things the shuttle killed.

"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message
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"Tony Rusi" wrote in message
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and the second craft (Skylab B) mothballed.
There was a second skylab that was mothballed??? where is it?

National Air and Space Museum. You can walk through it.


Been there, seen it, very cool. The museum itself has enough cool stuff to
keep an aerospace fan busy for a week. In the lobby alone are displayed
Glamorous Glennis, Friendship 7, Gemini 4, and the Apollo 11 CM, "Columbia".

Here's a photo from their web site:
http://www.nasm.si.edu/galleries/gal100/milestones.jpg. John Glenn's ride
is front and center. Other items in view include the "Spirit of St. Louis",
and mock-ups of the Wright Flyer, Pioneer 10, and a Viking lander. The item
at bottom left is a reproduction of Goddard's first successful liquid fueled
rockets.

Very cool stuff.


Dosco

(Tony Rusi) wrote:

and the second craft (Skylab B) mothballed.
There was a second skylab that was mothballed??? where is it?

It wasn't a second craft, it was the backup craft. It's at the
National Air and Space Museum.

D.
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It wasn't a second craft, it was the backup craft. It's at the
National Air and Space Museum.

D.

It was trhe second unit originally it was to be launched or held in reserve in
case the first one was lost.

On 2 Aug 2003 16:10:36 GMT, (John Park)
wrote:

I understand pilots were reluctant to get close to a small gunnery target that
was likely to explode if they fired at it, but do you know what led someone
to try the wing-tip manoeuvre in the first place?

I've read about it, but I can't remember it at all. I can check
around and get back to you.

Mary

Skylab 2 was actually loosely planned for launch. But cost overruns oin shuttle
killed it. I believe the skylab on display is skylab one. Somehow at the time
they decided to launch 2.

There were enough already builtt and tested everything to fly skylab again.

Boosters, CMs etc. Al that was missing were the bucks for operations

Just minor costs. What were they thinking? They walked away from the moon and
skylab its like no one cared/////////

"Paul Blay" wrote in message
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The U.S has stored an entire year's worth of oil I hear,

Ah, that good old reliable 'I hear'.

I bet "they" told him too. ;-)

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:40:34 GMT, in a place far, far away, LooseChanj
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

On or about Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:57:09 GMT, Brian Thorn
made the sensational claim that:
Once Saddam is confirmed dead and the Iraqis believe it, people will
come out of the woodwork to tell us where the WMD is buried. The man
terrorised his people for decades, and they're not going to believe
he's truly gone until they see his rotting carcass on TV.

The same way they saw him walking amongst them in the streets?

No, in a different way. Now that Qusay and Uday are dead (there's
some kind of pig latin joke in those names, somewhere), people are
starting to believe that we're serious, and not going away. Up until
then, they still had to make a bet as to whether or not they'd survive
ratting him out.

At some point (we may not be quite there yet, but I suspect we're
close) there will be a tipping point at which people will feel safe to
come forward. Certainly once Saddam's gone, they'll be much more
comfortable to do so, not only telling us where the WMDs are buried,
but where his remaining supporters are as well.

My fear is that the stuff we are seeing will happily continue without
Saddam, just like it excalated after his sons were killed and didn't go away
like some pundits predicted.

We're moving into a more scary phase of occupation now.

Sadly, the last year has gone pretty much in line with what I expected and
outlined before the invasion.

Which, as I recall I was ridiculed for suggesting.

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:53:36 +0100, in a place far, far away, Cardman
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

truly amazing amount of insanity snipped to focus on this one bit of
lunacy

I just see it a little hard to see how a population who was pro-Saddam
could change so quickly.

I find it extremely hard to see how you can imagine that the
population was *ever* pro-Saddam. Unless, perhaps, you are
sufficiently mentally deficient to believe the "election results" in
which he won a hundred percent. The vast majority of Arabs who were
pro-Saddam were those who lived in other countries, and didn't have to
worry about him putting their kids through blenders.

I agree with these points.

So, given the above, doesn't it concern you just how badly we've screwed up
the occupation so far?

"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message
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As for sidewalks between towns... you do realize the SIZE of this country?
We've got states that it can take 8+ hours to drive through.

But your towns are still normal sized.

I lived in a nice part of the SF Bay Area, it was only a mile or so to the
local strip mall, and about 2 miles to the town. Only, if I wanted to walk
into Redwood City, it was a 5 mile walk including a detour over the 101.

In comparison to European cities things are not organised around walking
even where it would be practical to do so.

If I move back to the US, which is likely at some point, I'll chose to live
in a city.