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Barbara Morgan on NBC tonight. She still want's to go, even after an
accident and a disaster. The big difference between then and now, she knows
what buttons to push now, instead of what buttons not to push.


Bad idea if theres another accident. NASA is flying a research vehicle not a
operational vehicle.

Jorge R. Frank wrote:

Craig Fink wrote in
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Barbara Morgan on NBC tonight. She still want's to go, even after an
accident and a disaster. The big difference between then and now, she
knows what buttons to push now, instead of what buttons not to push.

Barbara Morgan in 2004!!!!

Not going to happen in 2004. Barbara's still on 118. The new 114
crewmembers have been named, and Barbara isn't one of them.



Well, that's definitely a positive thing. At least NASA hasn't revoked her
"Permission To Fly" after this latest disaster. But, there's still hope for
2004. NASA has been known to flight missions out of order, sometimes
priority payloads get special treatment, or they simply swap out particular
payloads. Just look at all the important payloads that were launched just
after STS-51L. Yet, the Educator, the most important payload lost on
STS-51L, still hasn't flown.

There's still hope.

Barbara Morgan in 2004!!!!

Craig Fink

Hallerb wrote:


Barbara Morgan on NBC tonight. She still want's to go, even after an
accident and a disaster. The big difference between then and now, she
knows what buttons to push now, instead of what buttons not to push.


Bad idea if theres another accident. NASA is flying a research vehicle not
a operational vehicle.


Worst idea, what if there is another accident and she hasn't flown yet. It
would really reflect badly on our society. As the song goes, "the land of
the free and the home of the brave."

I agree with you, that it should be treated as a research vehicle, but
Barbara Morgan knows this and is still willing to fly on it. If she is
brave enough to fly, she should be free to do so.

Barabra Morgan in 2004!!!!

Craig Fink

From: Craig Fink

But, there's still hope for
2004. NASA has been known to flight missions out of order, sometimes
priority payloads get special treatment, or they simply swap out particular
payloads

She won't fly in 2004.

At most, two crews will fly in 2004, 114 and 121, and they just named all 7
members for each crew on Monday.

DF

From: Craig Fink

But, there's still hope for
2004. NASA has been known to flight missions out of order, sometimes
priority payloads get special treatment, or they simply swap out particular
payloads

She won't fly in 2004.

At most, two crews will fly in 2004, 114 and 121, and they just named all 7
members for each crew on Monday.

DF

Craig Fink wrote:
Hallerb wrote:


Barbara Morgan on NBC tonight. She still want's to go, even after an
accident and a disaster. The big difference between then and now, she
knows what buttons to push now, instead of what buttons not to push.


Bad idea if theres another accident. NASA is flying a research vehicle not
a operational vehicle.



Worst idea, what if there is another accident and she hasn't flown yet. It
would really reflect badly on our society. As the song goes, "the land of
the free and the home of the brave."


But *why*? Why do you think she should fly? Is it because NASA has
dangled a potential flight in front of her for so long? To close the
circle left open from the loss of Christa McAuliffe? To show that
teachers belong in space? To open doors?

All of the above?

I agree with you, that it should be treated as a research vehicle, but
Barbara Morgan knows this and is still willing to fly on it. If she is
brave enough to fly, she should be free to do so.

Barabra Morgan in 2004!!!!

Craig Fink

Dave Fowler wrote:

From: Craig Fink

But, there's still hope for
2004. NASA has been known to flight missions out of order, sometimes
priority payloads get special treatment, or they simply swap out
particular payloads

She won't fly in 2004.

At most, two crews will fly in 2004, 114 and 121, and they just named all
7 members for each crew on Monday.

I'd say you have a slightly higher probability of being right.

Did any of these people make the crew list?

Mr. Sean O'Keefe
Rear Admiral Stephen Turcotte
Maj. General John Barry
Maj. General Kenneth W. Hess
Dr. James N. Hallock
Mr. Steven B. Wallace
Brig. General Duane Deal
Mr. Scott Hubbard
Mr. Roger E. Tetrault
Dr. Sheila Widnall
Dr. Douglas D. Osheroff
Dr. Sally Ride
Dr. John Logsdon

Barbara Morgan in 2005!!!!

Nahhhhhh, there still plenty of time .....

Barbara Morgan in 2004!!!!


Ever hopeful....

Craig Fink

"Dave Fowler" wrote in message
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At most, two crews will fly in 2004, 114 and 121, and they just named all
7
members for each crew on Monday.

DF

i haven't seen that list
where can i find it
its not on the spaceflight nasa site....

serge

"serge" wrote in message
...

"Dave Fowler" wrote in message
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At most, two crews will fly in 2004, 114 and 121, and they just named
all
7
members for each crew on Monday.

DF

i haven't seen that list
where can i find it
its not on the spaceflight nasa site....

serge

and i don't mean craig fink's list just posted ;-))

stmx3 wrote:

Craig Fink wrote:
Hallerb wrote:


Barbara Morgan on NBC tonight. She still want's to go, even after an
accident and a disaster. The big difference between then and now, she
knows what buttons to push now, instead of what buttons not to push.


Bad idea if theres another accident. NASA is flying a research vehicle
not a operational vehicle.



Worst idea, what if there is another accident and she hasn't flown yet.
It would really reflect badly on our society. As the song goes, "the land
of the free and the home of the brave."


But *why*? Why do you think she should fly?

I'd really like to see what her lessons are like, what kind of
demonstrations she has and what the interaction with students on the ground
is like. It has great potential, and it'll be interesting to see how it
turns out.

Is it because NASA has
dangled a potential flight in front of her for so long?

No, more because of her quite persistence all these years.

To close the
circle left open from the loss of Christa McAuliffe?

Very much so, I've alway felt she should have flown on STS-26, or at least
been offer a position on the crew.

To show that
teachers belong in space?

That too, and really anyone else who want to have the experience.

To open doors?

Yes...


All of the above?

I agree with you, that it should be treated as a research vehicle, but
Barbara Morgan knows this and is still willing to fly on it. If she is
brave enough to fly, she should be free to do so.

Barabra Morgan in 2004!!!!

Craig Fink