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On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 5:26:26 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Well, anyone can cut things out of context and make any kind of judgment
about it.

I didn't take the statement "the Republican Party moved further to the right" out of context. It is a false statement that is unrelated to the words that preceded and followed it.

The fact is that some Republicans have been moving to the "left," ie in favor of increasing, and increasingly cnetralized, government control of the individual. The Demonrats having been moving even further left than they already were and at a MUCH faster rate than Republicans have.

There are a few politicians and voters who have remained conservative despite the leftward shift. They are the intelligent and sensible ones.

Try to get a clue, ugharoller.

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 4:15:11 PM UTC-6, wsne... wrote:

You should stop quoting lies, half-truths and other misleading statements, birdbrain.

I don't quote lies, I quote opinions.

The opinion you quoted contained a falsehood/misleading statement, which I pointed out. When opinions contain falsehoods they become worthless opinions. A falsehood can be assumed to be a lie, especially WRT politics.


By the way, how old were you when your mother dropped you on your head? LOOK Squirrel!

It's amazing how easily you resort to silly statements when you lose an argument, ugharoller.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 6:15:54 AM UTC-6, wrote:


The opinion you quoted contained a falsehood/misleading statement, which I pointed out. When opinions contain falsehoods they become worthless opinions. A falsehood can be assumed to be a lie, especially WRT politics.


Your opinions contain falsehoods, so you are saying that you lie when you post your opinions.

By the way, how old were you when your mother dropped you on your head? LOOK Squirrel!

It's amazing how easily you resort to silly statements when you lose an argument, ugharoller.

Not really silly, quite serious unfortunately. It is quite obvious that you suffered some sort of trauma when you were younger (post traumatic stress disorder perhaps?). It could explain your extreme paranoia about people that do not share your extreme right wing positions. Your paranoid obsessions border on stalking of those who you disagree with. You insert yourself into every dialog that people such as Peterson posts, not in any effort to engage in that dialog, but to harass and call names. Once you determine that someone is your enemy, you never let go, do you? You will stalk that person forever, find fault in everything they say or do, n'cest pas? Maybe you ought to seek professional help to find those better angels of your nature.

Have a happy.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 12:10:18 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Your opinions contain falsehoods,

Where?

You insert yourself into every dialog that people such as Peterson posts,

peterson makes ridiculous statements that do not deserve to go unchallenged.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 11:43:00 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 12:10:18 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Your opinions contain falsehoods,

Where?

Everywhere you post.

You insert yourself into every dialog that people such as Peterson posts,

peterson makes ridiculous statements that do not deserve to go unchallenged.

So you are the Don Quixote, tilting at windmills, determined to save the world. Well, it isn't working. Your approach doesn't work, it simply alienates everyone.

Your politics don't work either. In Wisconsin they elected a far right governor and legislature who are doing the bidding of the Koch Brothers (whose father was the founding member of the far right John Birch Society). Governor Walker has alienated most people in the state, he promised a net increase of 225,000 jobs in 2 years, but fell far short, managing a measily 120,000 in 4 years.

Meanwhile the adjacent state of Minnesota elected a Democratic governor and legislature. Their job growth has been far far higher, they vaulted to #1 in attracting new business, #1 according to Forbes and Bloomberg, while Wisconsin under Walker has dropped to 43rd.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 1:05:10 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 11:43:00 AM UTC-6, wsne... wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 12:10:18 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Your opinions contain falsehoods,

Where?

Everywhere you post.

Evading my question as usual, I see.



Your politics don't work either. In Wisconsin they elected a far right
governor and legislature who are doing the bidding of the Koch Brothers (whose father was the founding member of the far right John Birch Society). Governor
Walker has alienated most people in the state, he promised a net increase of
225,000 jobs in 2 years, but fell far short, managing a measily 120,000 in 4
years.

Meanwhile the adjacent state of Minnesota elected a Democratic governor and
legislature. Their job growth has been far far higher, they vaulted to #1 in
attracting new business, #1 according to Forbes and Bloomberg, while Wisconsin
under Walker has dropped to 43rd.

You have been misled, ugharoller. Wisconsin and Minnesota have different demographics and Wisconsin is largely agricultural.

From:

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2015...han-minnesota/

is this:

"Still, Wisconsin does lag Minnesota in many economic metrics. Minnesota has more corporate headquarters, has higher per capita income, has a lower unemployment rate and its population is better educated."

"But all of the above was just as true when Wisconsin's governor was Democrat Jim Doyle and Minnesota's was Republican Tim Pawlenty."

From:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...radise-win.php

is this:

" For now, let's just note that the Democrats' claim, that the Minnesota/Wisconsin comparison shows the superiority of liberal policies, is false."


(Note that much of Minnesota's performance occurred when demonrats WEREN'T in the its Governor's Mansion, and Wisconsin's lagging when a demonrat WAS in -its- Governor's Mansion.)

But then you probably knew that, right, ugharoller?

IOW, you quoted an invalid opinion, once again.

You should be ashamed.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 12:41:13 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 1:05:10 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 11:43:00 AM UTC-6, wsne... wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 12:10:18 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Your opinions contain falsehoods,

Where?

Everywhere you post.

Evading my question as usual, I see.



Your politics don't work either. In Wisconsin they elected a far right
governor and legislature who are doing the bidding of the Koch Brothers (whose father was the founding member of the far right John Birch Society).. Governor
Walker has alienated most people in the state, he promised a net increase of
225,000 jobs in 2 years, but fell far short, managing a measily 120,000 in 4
years.

Meanwhile the adjacent state of Minnesota elected a Democratic governor and
legislature. Their job growth has been far far higher, they vaulted to #1 in
attracting new business, #1 according to Forbes and Bloomberg, while Wisconsin
under Walker has dropped to 43rd.

You have been misled, ugharoller. Wisconsin and Minnesota have different demographics and Wisconsin is largely agricultural.

From:

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2015...han-minnesota/

is this:

"Still, Wisconsin does lag Minnesota in many economic metrics. Minnesota has more corporate headquarters, has higher per capita income, has a lower unemployment rate and its population is better educated."

"But all of the above was just as true when Wisconsin's governor was Democrat Jim Doyle and Minnesota's was Republican Tim Pawlenty."

From:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...radise-win.php

is this:

" For now, let's just note that the Democrats' claim, that the Minnesota/Wisconsin comparison shows the superiority of liberal policies, is false."


(Note that much of Minnesota's performance occurred when demonrats WEREN'T in the its Governor's Mansion, and Wisconsin's lagging when a demonrat WAS in -its- Governor's Mansion.)

But then you probably knew that, right, ugharoller?

IOW, you quoted an invalid opinion, once again.

You should be ashamed.

What I posted was fact. I get my facts from Forbes and Bloomberg, NOT from opinion blog sites like powerlineblog.com. Forbes has no dog in the hunt, it calls them as it sees them.

From Forbes as quoted in the Milwaukee Business Journal:

"The state of Wisconsin is one of the worst states for business with state production heading in the wrong direction, according to Forbes magazine.

"Forbes' latest rankings of The Best States for Business placed America's Dairyland 42nd in the nation, dropping from 40th in 2011. The rankings are derived from a series of criteria: business costs, labor supply, regulatory environment, economic climate, growth prospects and quality of life.

"Wisconsin's outlook for job growth -- a cornerstone of Gov. Scott Walker's 2010 campaign -- weighed down the picture. The magazine said job growth is projected to be second worst in the country through 2016. The state had a negative 0.3 percent job "growth" in 2012. Wisconsin ranked 43rd in "growth prospects," according to Forbes.

"Wisconsin ranks 10th in quality of life, but 39th in labor supply and 35th in business costs. The regulatory environment is ranked 30th and the business climate, 29th.

"Wisconsin's economy is driven by 1) manufacturing, 2) agriculture and 3) health care. The Badger State adopted the slogan 'Open for Business' in 2011, erecting signs along the state border. The results have been middling at best as job growth is projected to be second worst in the U.S. through 2016.."

My take on Wisconsin:
As a businessman myself I am quite aware what it takes for business to succeed. I love Wisconsin, it is a beautiful state with lots of recreational opportunities, a land of rivers, lakes and hills, which makes it a draw for Illinois flatlanders in the summer.

I would have sited my own factory there, but unfortunately the small manufacturing climate is not as good as it is in Illinois. Young people are leaving the state after graduating from their University system because they don't see good opportunity there. Walker has slashed 300 million in funds for the UW budget, at the same time he gave 300 million to the developer of the Hawks Stadium in Milwaukee. The developer of the stadium just happens to be a personal friend of the governor.

Wisconsin has been both progressive and regressive in the past. Progressive in that it was the birthplace of labor unions. Regressive in the 1950's when they sent Joseph McCarthy to the US Senate - one of the most infamous right wing demagogues of all time.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 2:14:31 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

What I posted was fact.

You posted half-truths.


"Forbes' latest rankings of The Best States for Business placed America's
Dairyland


America's _DAIRYLAND_, an _agricultural_ state.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 2:14:31 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

My take on Wisconsin:

ugharoller's irrelevant anecdotes deleted


Private business seems to be doing better in Wisconsin than in Illinois, generally:

http://host.madison.com/wsj/business...9bb2963f4.html

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 1:39:05 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 2:14:31 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:

What I posted was fact.

You posted half-truths.

I posted Forbes ratings. Take it up with them

"Forbes' latest rankings of The Best States for Business placed America's
Dairyland

America's _DAIRYLAND_, an _agricultural_ state.

In terms of state income, manufacturing ranks above agriculture in Wisconsin.