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Old September 7th 11, 11:50 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.

"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150 years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2


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Old September 7th 11, 12:06 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.


"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote in
message ...
| "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
| strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
| and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
| declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
| achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
|
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
|
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
| magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
| other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
|
Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?

And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES! It
COULD be!"



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Old September 7th 11, 01:26 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.


"Androcles" wrote in message
...

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
in
message ...
| "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
| strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
| and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
| declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
| achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
|
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
|
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
| magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
| other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
|
Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?

And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES! It
COULD be!"

By what mechanism?


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Old September 7th 11, 03:59 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.


"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote in
message ...
|
| "Androcles" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
| in
| message ...
| | "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
| present
| | strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
| years
| | and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has
| | declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
| | achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
| |
| |
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
| |
| | Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
| reduced
| | magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
| some
| | other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
| |
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
| magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused by
| some
| other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?
|
| And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES!
It
| COULD be!"
|
| By what mechanism?

The one that COULD be, of course!

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe
impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was
younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've
believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
Alice in Wonderland



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Old September 7th 11, 10:15 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.


"Androcles" wrote in message
...

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
in
message ...
|
| "Androcles" wrote in
message
| ...
|
| "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote
| in
| message ...
| | "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
| present
| | strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last
150
| years
| | and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has
| | declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern
value
| | achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
| |
| |
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
| |
| | Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
| reduced
| | magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused
by
| some
| | other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
| |
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
| magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused
by
| some
| other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?
|
| And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES!
It
| COULD be!"
|
| By what mechanism?

The one that COULD be, of course!

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe
impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was
younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've
believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
Alice in Wonderland

Grand.


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Old September 8th 11, 12:21 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.


"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote in
message ...
|
| "Androcles" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
| in
| message ...
| |
| | "Androcles" wrote in
| message
| | ...
| |
| | "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
| wrote
| | in
| | message ...
| | | "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
| | present
| | | strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last
| 150
| | years
| | | and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic
intensity
| has
| | | declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern
| value
| | | achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
| | |
| | |
| |
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
| | |
| | | Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
| | reduced
| | | magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be
caused
| by
| | some
| | | other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
| | |
| | Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
| reduced
| | magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be
caused
| by
| | some
| | other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?
| |
| | And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding
"YES!
| It
| | COULD be!"
| |
| | By what mechanism?
|
| The one that COULD be, of course!
|
| "Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe
| impossible things."
| "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was
| younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've
| believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
| Alice in Wonderland
|
| Grand.
|
When Kepler noticed the tides rose and fell as the Moon crossed
the sky he mentioned it to Galileo, who laughed. But Kepler was
right, there is a correlation. So let's see what a correlation is.
Moon overhead, high tide. Moon on the horizon, low tide.
Observe Moon. Observe tide. And every day its the same.
Perhaps there is a reason.
Ok, you say the earth's magnetic field is weakening.
What are you comparing it to?
"Some other factor, perhaps galactic in origin"
You are clearly a babbling idiot who has made no observation
whatsoever. All we CAN do is laugh.






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Old September 7th 11, 06:41 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.

On Sep 7, 1:26*pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
"Androcles" wrote in message

...





"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
in
...
| "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
| strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
| and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
| declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
| achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
|
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...e_of_the_geoma...
|
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
| magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
| other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
|
Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?


And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES! It
COULD be!"


By what mechanism?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think you missed the fact and the irony. You stupid, stupid denier.
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Old September 7th 11, 02:19 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.

On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:" Could there be any connection, as well as
correlation, between the reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or
warming? Or could all be caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic
in origin?"


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...0ded36bb6d3ef0
On Aug 31, 2:34 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“To establish whether there is more cloud formation (if indeed the SAA
lets significantly more cosmic rays through which is doubtful) would
be a very difficult task and I very much doubt anyone has spent a
$billion trying to find out, yet.”

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...c581b81c37066b
On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“The complexities are so enormous and resources required so large that
I doubt anyone can really answer this question at present.”


i doubt your interest in this subjest is honest, and instead might
just be the usuall attempt to spread doubt by the denialists who dont
want to reduce green house gas emissions. For it appears you have
just taken up the subject even though you previously admitted you
doubt anyone can "answer the question" that a connection exists.


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Old September 7th 11, 02:48 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.


"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:" Could there be any connection, as well as
correlation, between the reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or
warming? Or could all be caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic
in origin?"


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...0ded36bb6d3ef0
On Aug 31, 2:34 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“To establish whether there is more cloud formation (if indeed the SAA
lets significantly more cosmic rays through which is doubtful) would
be a very difficult task and I very much doubt anyone has spent a
$billion trying to find out, yet.”

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...c581b81c37066b
On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“The complexities are so enormous and resources required so large that
I doubt anyone can really answer this question at present.”


i doubt your interest in this subjest is honest, and instead might
just be the usuall attempt to spread doubt by the denialists who dont
want to reduce green house gas emissions. For it appears you have
just taken up the subject even though you previously admitted you
doubt anyone can "answer the question" that a connection exists.

=You seem to be a bit muddled. More cosmic rays are thought to perhaps cause
more clouds and therefore *cooling*! In this case I am asking by what
mechanism, if any, might magnetic field variation and co2 levels or
*warming* be linked. More the co2 as that is the more coincident signal.



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Old September 7th 11, 03:01 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.astro,sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
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Default Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.

On Sep 7, 6:48*am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
wrote in ...
On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" wrote:" Could there be any connection, as well as

correlation, between the reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or
warming? Or could all be caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic
in origin?"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...0ded36bb6d3ef0
On Aug 31, 2:34 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" wrote:

To establish whether there is more cloud formation (if indeed the SAA
lets significantly more cosmic rays through which is doubtful) would
be a very difficult task and I very much doubt anyone has spent a
$billion trying to find out, yet.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...c581b81c37066b
On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" wrote:

The complexities are so enormous and resources required so large that
I doubt anyone can really answer this question at present.

i doubt your interest in this subjest is honest, and instead might
just be the usuall attempt to spread doubt by the denialists who dont
want to reduce green house gas emissions. *For it appears you have
just taken up the subject even though you previously admitted you
doubt anyone can "answer the question" that a connection exists.

=You seem to be a bit muddled. More cosmic rays are thought to perhaps cause
more clouds and therefore *cooling*! In this case I am asking by what
mechanism, if any, might magnetic field variation and co2 levels or
*warming* be linked. More the co2 as that is the more coincident signal.


not muddled, more so not trusting of your words as you seem to be once
again approaching the issue with a "muddled view". So to clarify, we
understand increasing the amounts of co2 in the atmosphere changes the
composition, and the thermodynamic poperties of earths atmosphere.
There has been no shown connection between GCR and clouds, and yet
there is a connection between co2 and human actions, and co2 and
warming.
 




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