Press briefing on alleged Apollo secrets

The following announcement appears on the National Press Club
website:

http://npc.press.org/calendar/caldbe...?eventid=14033

Event Date: Oct. 30, 2007
Event Name: NASA Cover-Ups Continue
Event Type: News Conference
Time: 9:00 AM
Sponsored by: Enterprise Mission
Event Location: Zenger Room
Details: Fired NASA Whistleblower to Reveal New Apollo Secrets Kept
Classified by Space Agency for Over 40 Years.

Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control
Division at NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo
Lunar Exploration Effort in the 1970's, was abruptly terminated
Tuesday morning, October 23rd, from NASA's prestigious "Solar System
Ambassador" (SSA) Program at JPL. The firing was direct reprisal for
Johnston's published account in a New York Times Best Seller, "Dark
Mission: the Secret History of NASA," of how NASA ordered him, 40
years ago, to destroy key Apollo lunar images and data -- rather than
allow them to be preserved for academic study and public view.
Johnston will testify at an Enterprise Mission sponsored National
Press Club news conference this Tuesday, October 30th (Zenger Room,
9:00 AM) , how he disobeyed these NASA orders, secretly preserving the
critical Apollo images. Johnston will then show some of the "missing"
Apollo frames -- which confirm the existence of long-rumored "ancient
artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," discovered by the Apollo
astronauts but legally classified under the 1958 Space Act by NASA for
over 40 years.

Johnston will be joined by Richard C. Hoagland, former NASA consultant
and CBS News Science Science Advisor during the Apollo lunar missions.
Hoagland is coauthor of "Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA,"
and head of The Enterprise Mission. Hoagland will present an imaging
analysis of Johnston's 40-year-old rescued Apollo images, comparing
them to modern versions apparently currently being "leaked" by other
"whistleblowers" on official NASA websites. He will also demonstrate
and analyze one of the secret technologies retrieved by the Apollo
crews, relating to the artificial control of gravity.

On Oct 30, 5:44 am, Axel Harvey wrote:
The following announcement appears on the National Press Club
website:

http://npc.press.org/calendar/caldbe...?eventid=14033

Event Date: Oct. 30, 2007
Event Name: NASA Cover-Ups Continue
Event Type: News Conference
Time: 9:00 AM
Sponsored by: Enterprise Mission
Event Location: Zenger Room
Details: Fired NASA Whistleblower to Reveal New Apollo Secrets Kept
Classified by Space Agency for Over 40 Years.

Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control
Division at NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo
Lunar Exploration Effort in the 1970's, was abruptly terminated
Tuesday morning, October 23rd, from NASA's prestigious "Solar System
Ambassador" (SSA) Program at JPL. The firing was direct reprisal for
Johnston's published account in a New York Times Best Seller, "Dark
Mission: the Secret History of NASA," of how NASA ordered him, 40
years ago, to destroy key Apollo lunar images and data -- rather than
allow them to be preserved for academic study and public view.
Johnston will testify at an Enterprise Mission sponsored National
Press Club news conference this Tuesday, October 30th (Zenger Room,
9:00 AM) , how he disobeyed these NASA orders, secretly preserving the
critical Apollo images. Johnston will then show some of the "missing"
Apollo frames -- which confirm the existence of long-rumored "ancient
artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," discovered by the Apollo
astronauts but legally classified under the 1958 Space Act by NASA for
over 40 years.

Johnston will be joined by Richard C. Hoagland, former NASA consultant
and CBS News Science Science Advisor during the Apollo lunar missions.
Hoagland is coauthor of "Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA,"
and head of The Enterprise Mission. Hoagland will present an imaging
analysis of Johnston's 40-year-old rescued Apollo images, comparing
them to modern versions apparently currently being "leaked" by other
"whistleblowers" on official NASA websites. He will also demonstrate
and analyze one of the secret technologies retrieved by the Apollo
crews, relating to the artificial control of gravity.

Interesting as to how GOOGLE/NOVA space.history and any other usenet
group as hosting this topic was so quick to cut us off at the pass,
just before this "NASA Cover-Ups Continue" of their National Press
Club thing got underway. I'm also getting traumatised by those extra
butt-loads of their PC spermware/****ware that's trying every other
dirty trick in their Old Testament book in order to terminate my
usenet access. Meanwhile, other usenet groups are much less affected.

I have no personal doubts as to the possibility of there being
"ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," as discovered
by our orbiting Apollo robotics (thought not as via astronauts) and
perhaps as having been legally classified under the 1958 Space Act by
NASA for over 40 years.

As to the demonstration and analyzing one of those supposed secret
technologies retrieved by the Apollo crews, relating to the artificial
control of gravity, is entirely proof positive of the ongoing ruse/
sting nature of this ongoing hocus-pocus fiasco, of the silly hype
worth of infowar/infomercial spewing that's at the very disinformation
root of most all things NASA and pretend-atheists at the same time.

There is simply no possible way that Ken or Richard are rogue agents
working outside of MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA orchestration or moderation, and
still alive to be sharing such secrets (far less crimes would get such
folks put into our secret prisons and if need be waterboarded to death
without so much as any speck of due process). It does our NASA much
good having such a insider ruse/sting ongoing, because it only makes
NASA look all that more believable. However, if this press event
brings further attention to our physically dark and somewhat salty old
moon that's always saturated in gamma, plus especially X-ray and
double IR nasty by day, then so be it.
- Brad Guth -

BTW, you folks do recall what happened to that certain other original
NASA safety engineer whistleblower and of his entire family, don't
you?

Not only did those pesky MIB manage to arrange that rather unfortunate
encounter with a locomotive, but also having scrubbed out his entire
safety report, as well as that of his field office and most of
everything else got scrubbed off the face of Earth, almost like he
never existed.

Perhaps something similar will happen to Dr. Ken Johnston. (does Ken
Johnston have a reliable posse that's packing heat?)

Or, is this simply another pretend sort of whistleblower ruse thing
that our government and NASA are really good at pulling off. (at least
if I were NASA, it's exactly what kind of stealth damage-control that
I'd be doing right about now)

It seems as though anything that further supports the notions of our
NASA/Apollo astronauts actually walking moonsuit butt naked on that
moon of ours is good enough, even if it comes by way of other
rusemasters trying to pull off whatever can suggest that we'd walked
on that dusty old moon with our unfiltered optics and Kodak film that
was somehow immune to such raw UV or even UV secondary/recoil photons,
and otherwise simply couldn't notice or much less record Venus.

It'll be interesting as to a head count and ID of those attending this
Enterprise Mission event.
- Brad Guth -

In all fairness, there may have been those lunar transported ETs, as
of once upon a time situated onboard our interstellar migrating icy
proto-moon, wheeas that's technically doable for the likes of
accommodating our frail DNA having survived such an exposed trek. A
thick layer of ice not only makes a perfectly terrific thermal
insulator, but it's also going to function darn good on behalf of
cosmic radiation shielding (a whole lot better off than any combined
terrestrial atmosphere and magnetosphere worth of Van Allen bets can
accommodate, as well as such ice [especially if it's made extra cold
and thus of hard salty ice] being rather nicely impact resistant).

This following press event should have been well enough over by now,
with at the very least some viable info along with one or more of
those supposed taboo NASA/Apollo images that we've never before seen,
as for getting usenet posted by at least one soul. I wonder what's
taking so long? (didn't anyone show up?)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a4f5446390fdcc

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...7f86034fb4b63a

Interesting as to how GOOGLE/NOVA sci.space.history and any other
usenet group as hosting this topic was so quick to cut us off at the
pass, and just in time before this "NASA Cover-Ups Continue" of their
National Press Club thing got underway. For the record, I'm also
getting summarily traumatised by those extra butt-loads of their PC
spermware/****ware that's trying every other dirty trick in their Old
Testament book in order to terminate my usenet access, or at least
capable of remote terminating my mouse. Meanwhile, other usenet
groups without having this topic have been much less affected if at
all.

I have no personal doubts as to the possibility of there having been
"ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," as discovered
by our orbiting Apollo robotics (thought not as recorded via
astronauts) and perhaps as such having been legally classified under
the 1958 Space Act by NASA for the past 40+ years.

As to the demonstration and analyzing one of those supposed secret
technologies retrieved by the Apollo crews, relating to the artificial
control of gravity, is entirely proof positive of the ongoing ruse/
sting nature of this forever hocus-pocus fiasco, of the silly hype
worth of infowar/infomercial spewing that's at the very disinformation
root of most all things NASA and pretend-atheists at the same time.

There is simply no possible way that Ken or Richard are actually rogue
agents working outside of MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA orchestration or
moderation, and still alive to be sharing such supposed secrets (far
less crimes would get such folks put into our secret prisons and if
need be waterboarded to death without so much as any speck of due
process). I would believe that it does our NASA much good having such
a insider ruse/sting ongoing, because it only makes everything else
NASA look all that more believable. However, if this press event
brings further attention to our physically dark and somewhat salty old
moon that's always saturated in gamma, plus especially X-ray and
double IR nasty by day, then so be it.

BTW, you folks do recall what happened to that certain other original
NASA safety engineer whistleblower and of his entire family, don't
you?

Not only did those pesky MIB manage to arrange that rather unfortunate
encounter with a locomotive, but also having scrubbed out his entire
safety report, as well as that of his field office and most of
everything else got scrubbed off the face of Earth, almost like he
never existed.

Perhaps something similar will happen to Dr. Ken Johnston. (does Ken
Johnston have a reliable posse that's packing heat?) Or, is this
simply another pretend sort of whistleblower ruse thing that our
government and NASA are really good at pulling off. (at least if I
were NASA, it's exactly what kind of stealth damage-control that I'd
be doing right about now)

It seems as though anything that further supports the notions of our
NASA/Apollo astronauts actually walking moonsuit butt naked on that
moon of ours is good enough, even if it comes by way of other
rusemasters trying to pull off whatever can suggest that we'd walked
on that dusty old moon with our unfiltered optics and Kodak film that
was somehow immune to such raw UV or even UV secondary/recoil photons,
and otherwise simply couldn't notice or much less record Venus.

It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
back page of which obscure newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format)
- Brad Guth -

In all possible fairness, there may have been those lunar transported
ETs, as of once upon a time situated onboard our interstellar
migrating icy proto-moon, wheeas that's technically doable for the
likes of accommodating our frail DNA having to survive such an exposed
trek. A thick layer of ice not only makes a perfectly terrific
thermal insulator, but it's also going to function darn good on behalf
of cosmic radiation shielding (a whole lot better off than any
combined terrestrial atmosphere and magnetosphere worth of Van Allen
bets can accommodate, as well as such ice [especially if it's made
extra cold and thus of hard salty ice] being rather nicely impact
resistant).

This following press event should have been well enough over by now,
with at the very least some viable info along with one or more of
those supposed taboo NASA/Apollo images that we've never before seen,
as for their getting usenet posted by at least one soul. I wonder
what's taking so long? (didn't anyone bother to show up?)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a4f5446390fdcc

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...7f86034fb4b63a

Interesting as to how GOOGLE/NOVA sci.space.history and any other
usenet group as hosting this topic was so quick to cut us off at the
pass, and just in time before this "NASA Cover-Ups Continue" of their
National Press Club thing got underway. For the record, I'm also
getting summarily traumatised by those extra butt-loads of their PC
spermware/****ware that's trying every other dirty trick in their Old
Testament book in order to terminate my usenet access, or at least
capable of remote terminating my mouse. Meanwhile, other usenet
groups without having this topic have been much less affected if at
all.

I have no personal doubts as to the possibility of there having been
"ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," as discovered
by our orbiting Apollo robotics (thought not as recorded via
astronauts) and perhaps as such having been legally classified under
the 1958 Space Act by NASA for the past 40+ years.

As to the demonstration and analyzing one of those supposed secret
technologies retrieved by the Apollo crews, relating to the artificial
control of gravity, is entirely proof positive of the ongoing ruse/
sting nature of this forever hocus-pocus fiasco, of the silly hype
worth of infowar/infomercial spewing that's at the very disinformation
root of most all things NASA and pretend-atheists at the same time.

There is simply no possible way that Ken or Richard are actually rogue
agents working outside of MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA orchestration or
moderation, and still alive to be sharing such supposed secrets (far
less crimes would get such folks put into our secret prisons and if
need be waterboarded to death without so much as any speck of due
process). I would believe that it does our NASA much good having such
a insider ruse/sting ongoing, because it only makes everything else
NASA look all that more believable. However, if this press event
brings further attention to our physically dark and somewhat salty old
moon that's always saturated in gamma, plus especially X-ray and
double IR nasty by day, then so be it.

BTW, you folks do recall what happened to that certain other original
NASA safety engineer whistleblower and of his entire family, don't
you?

Not only did those pesky MIB manage to arrange that rather unfortunate
encounter with a locomotive, but also having scrubbed out his entire
safety report, as well as that of his field office and most of
everything else got scrubbed off the face of Earth, almost like he
never existed.

Perhaps something similar will happen to Dr. Ken Johnston. (does Ken
Johnston have a reliable posse that's packing heat?) Or, is this
simply another pretend sort of whistleblower ruse thing that our
government and NASA are really good at pulling off. (at least if I
were NASA, it's exactly what kind of stealth damage-control that I'd
be doing right about now)

It seems as though anything that further supports the notions of our
NASA/Apollo astronauts actually walking moonsuit butt naked on that
moon of ours is good enough, even if it comes by way of other
rusemasters trying to pull off whatever can suggest that we'd walked
on that dusty old moon with our unfiltered optics and Kodak film that
was somehow immune to such raw UV or even UV secondary/recoil photons,
and otherwise simply couldn't notice or much less record Venus.

It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
obscure back page of which newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format)
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 30, 1:10 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
From: Daniel babylon.usa

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Remember Big Al Einstein's world-famous quip that there are
"only two things that are infinite, the Universe, and human
stupidity"! There are only two kinds of people in the world
who *always* lie even when the truth works better: Atheists
and official Government spokespeople, including politicians,
even discredited backsliders (seeing that government always
buys/threatens them off, or kills them & their families off)
and I am absolutely positively certain they are *all* liars.
It's like George Carlin said "Everything that the government
tells me is a lie!" Same goes for Atheists. They are nothing
but pathological liars. They always lie. Liars! Liars! Liars!

All objective analysis of the known facts has consistently
proven Big Brother's "apollo" story is patently impossible.
Nearly *four decades* have elapsed since 1969, thirty-five
years since 1972. The Apollo missions were all unmanned as
the evidence shows. A mere few hundred miles above sealevel
is as far above Earth's surface that JPL/NASA's "horseless"
carriages have ever been. Every "manned" moon landing back
in covered-wagon times was nothing but cold-war propaganda
for the unsuspecting masses...as the evidence demonstrates.

It's a proven fact NASA's six allegedly-manned half-million
miles per round-trip(!) missions to the Moon (1969-72) were
at best unmanned flights in competition with the U.S.S.R.'s
contemporaneous Soviet Luna/Lunakhod unmanned Moon missions.
"They couldn't make it so they faked it." Thus, the "manned"
portions of the missions were actually filmed under the top-
secret, heavily-guarded domed soundstages in the high desert
of Area 51, NV, perhaps around Pine Gap, AUS and maybe other
remote and publicly-inaccessible locations around the world.

Flags fluttering in the high-desert breeze, sand
buggies & actors running along in their deflated
monkeysuits-obviously recorded on highspeed film,
conspicuous absence of blast craters, impossibly
silent running under invisible exhaust emissions,
brazenly obvious backdrops which contrast sharply
against the nearby high-desert terrain ad nauseam

The Moon is far beyond the reach of manned spacecraft, to wit:

ALTITUDE COMPARISON CHART
SHUTTLE VS. MOON & MANMADE SATELLITES
(not to scale)

x------Moon's mean geocentric distance ~239,000 miles---x
| |
| |
| |
| |
~ ~214,000 MILES ~
~ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ~
| |
| |
| |
x------High-altitude orbit ~25,000+ miles altitude------x
| |
x------Geostationary orbit ~22,300 miles altitude-------x
| |
| |
~ ~10,000 MILES ~
~ ~
| |
x------Mid-altitude orbit ~12,500 miles altitude--------x
| |
| |
~ ~10,000 MILES ~
~ ~
| |
x------Low-altitude orbit below ~1200 miles altitude----x
x------JPL/NASA Space Shuttle orbit ~300 miles altitude-x
x------Intl. Space Station orbit ~220 miles altitude |
x------Earth's sea level -0- miles altitude-------------x

To give you an idea of the scale involved, if each hard line
break in the chart below equals roughly 10,000 miles, to wit:

x------Moon's mean geocentric distance ~239,000 miles---x
| 230,000 |
| 220,000 |
| 210,000 |
| 200,000 |
| 190,000 |
| 180,000 |
| 170,000 |
| 160,000 |
| 150,000 |
| 140,000 |
| 130,000 |
| 120,000 |
| 110,000 |
| 100,000 |
| 90,000 |
| 80,000 |
| 70,000 |
| 60,000 |
| 50,000 |
| 40,000 |
| 30,000 |
x------Geostationary orbit ~22,300 miles altitude-------x
x------Mid-altitude orbit ~12,500 miles altitude--------x
x------Low-altitude orbit below ~1200 miles altitude----x

Thus the low-earth shuttle orbit would fit somewhere between
the center and baseline of the bottom 'x'--hardly visible at
all at this scale. And yet, that is the highest altitude any
manned flight has ever successfully sustained for any length
of time. But the "men to the moon" fairytale devotees don't
want to face up to these and other glaring facts in evidence:

*Altitude Comparison Chart of Shuttle vs. Moon & Manmade Satellites:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ymous.pos ter

*Apollo Moon Missions 1969-1972 Were At Best *Unmanned*:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Quasi-Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org
__________________________________________________ ____________

Remember, because this particular evidence regarding the laser
reflectors (which are indisputably on the surface of the Moon)
has been repeatedly cited as "proof" that living human beings
have actually been to the Moon and back (i.e., only by badly-
educated cowards who were duped by NASA's propaganda machine),
but were in reality *unmanned* missions at best that occurred
nearly FOUR DECADES ago, I'll briefly address this issue one
more time for the benefit of conscientious lurkers out the

http://www.aerospaceguide.net/spacecraft/lunakhod.html
"Lunokhod 1 was the first successful Soviet remote-
controlled moon rover that was carried to the Moon
by Luna 17. It was launched November 10, 1970. The
rover had eight wheels.
"The Luna 17 spacecraft landed on the moon on November
17, 1970. Lunokhod 1 weighed just under 2,000 pounds
and was designed to operate for 90 days while guided
by a 5-person team. Lunokhod 1 explored the Mare
Imbrium for 11 months and traveled 11km and relayed
television pictures and scientific data.
Lunokhod 2 moon rover was an improved version of
Lunokhod 1. It was carried to the moon on Luna 21
and landed on January 16, 1973. Lunokhod 2 was faster
and carried an additional television camera. It
travelled 37km in only 8 weeks." [end quote]

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Lunokhod1.htm
"Lunokhod 1 went to the Moon aboard Luna 17. Its
eight wire-mesh wheels each has its own electric
motor to allow manoeuvring in tight spaces, and so
failure of a single motor did not prevent it from
moving.
The lidded box at the left is a French-built laser
reflector. It was used to reflect back to Earth a
laser beam, making it possible to measure the
distance between the Earth and Moon to an accuracy
of twenty to thirty centimetres" [end quote]

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Lunokhod2.htm
"There is an additional high-level TV camera for
panoramic photography, and all lenses have
improved sunshades.
The small silver box between the front wheels is
an alpha particle emitter which can be lowered
onto the Moon to measure soil composition. Like
its predecessor, Lunokhod 2 carries a French
retro-reflector for use with a laser beam
transmitted from Earth. It allows the Earth-Moon
distance to be measured to an accuracy around 20
centimetres.

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Luna16.htm
"the cone-shaped antenna keeps communication with
Earth while the drill arm sits in its rest position
on the right. The sample will be taken by rotating
the drill head by one hundred and eighty degrees,
lowering the drill arm to the surface and extracting
a core sample.
On returning to the rest position, the sample is
transferred to the return capsule and sent back to
Earth" [end quote]

Therefore the Soviet Lunokhod I/II-Luna XVII/XXI missions
both successfully landed their unmanned remote-controlled
lunar-rovers a.k.a. dune-buggies on the Moon: in the same
time frame as the alleged "apollo" missions were supposed
to have occurred. These remote-controlled Russian buggies
placed French- made laser reflectors on the Moon! Another
Soviet unmanned mission, Luna XVI, landed on the Moon and
returned a soil sample to the Earth by September 24, 1970:
from the Moon, unmanned, programmed and remote-controlled.

So laser-reflecting corner prisms were placed on the ...

read more »

Nothing from Earth has soft landed upon our moon. At best a few one-
way soft impacts were likely accomplished.
- Brad Guth -

And on the DoD table, we have our warm and fuzzy Nukes in Space, and
so much more to look forward to: Scroll yourself down to page 30 or
so / Cis-Lunar Space
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/libra...rden_Simon.pdf

According to our XNASA "Enterprise Mission" wizards and author of
"Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA", our moon needs to be re-
explored in much greater detail, of which I'd have to full agree with
that analogy, but not for the same reasons as having been suggested by
NASA's very own weird kind of disinformation/infowar spewing
rusemasters that are indirectly supporting everything NASA/Apollo, as
though it's the one and only whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
help them via whatever faith-based God is putting our hard earned loot
into their offshore bank accounts.

According to our "Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet(Tom)" as
having reported upon yet another Enterprise Mission infomercial event
as having a head count of 124. At that rather pathetic turnout, I
supposed that kind of infomercial press exposure event as held within
the little "Zenger Room" cost them at the very least a good $100/head
(a whole lot more spendy if you're not a NPC member). Was there any
door charge, implied donation or required book purchase for attending?

Wow! 124 is certainly a whole lot better head count than I'd thought
would attend. As a small NPC classroom of such heads, perchance were
any of those attending heads from The Washington Post or PBS. Wasn't
Dan Rather or any other investigative reporter there? How about a
brief visit by Walter Cronkite, or was there even so much as one
official NASA astronaut there to behold?

Thus far, there's still no public press coverage, or much less of
anything from LeapFrog about squat of whatever's supposedly so moon
like for real about those xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated terrain
photographs, of our guano island's pretend it's a moon environment
setting.

Even of my having reviewed far better close-ups of that unusually
bright albedo worthy rock, and via our fancy but optically unfiltered
and apparently rad-hard Kodak moment shots of that supposed ET
modified rock are not telling us squat as to what and/or how any of
that physically dark, thick and sticky moon dust ever managed to get
out of those deep cracks, and of that other extremely spooky and
supposed artificial tower item is just looking as though too gosh darn
hocus pocus, as though it was something weird in their guano island
background or on stage that wasn't supposed to be there, as otherwise
it's made of or cloaked by whatever's nearly as sooty black as or at
least darker than coal.

There's actually some extremely weird stuff as robotic photographed
from orbit that's entirely believable as being somewhat artificial
looking, and otherwise just plain old naturally weird about our
physically dark and nasty moon that's oddly somewhat salty, as well as
highly electrostatic charged and always saturated in gamma, plus
double IR roasting to death by day of having those pesky X-rays to
deal with.

In all possible fairness, there may have been those lunar transported
ETs, as of once upon a time situated onboard our interstellar
migrating icy proto-moon, wheeas that's technically doable for the
likes of accommodating our frail DNA having to survive such an exposed
trek. A thick layer of ice not only makes a perfectly terrific
thermal insulator, but it's also going to function darn good on behalf
of cosmic radiation shielding (a whole lot better off than any
combined terrestrial atmosphere and magnetosphere worth of Van Allen
bets can accommodate, as well as such ice [especially if it's made
extra cold and thus of hard salty ice] being rather nicely impact
resistant).

This following press event should have been well enough over by now,
with at the very least some viable info along with one or more of
those supposed taboo (aka never seen before) NASA/Apollo images that
we've never before had access to, as for those images getting usenet
posted for the first time by at least one honest soul. I wonder
what's taking so long? (or didn't anyone of investigative importance
bother to show up?)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a4f5446390fdcc

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...7f86034fb4b63a

I have no personal doubts as to the possibility of there having been
"ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon", as discovered
by our orbiting Apollo robotics (though not as directly recorded via
Apollo astronauts) and perhaps as such having been legally classified
under the 1958 Space Act by NASA for the past 40+ years.

As to the demonstration and analyzing one of those supposed secret
technologies retrieved by the Apollo crews, relating to the artificial
control of gravity, is entirely proof positive of the ongoing ruse/
sting nature of this forever hocus-pocus fiasco, of the silly hype
worth of infowar/infomercial spewing that's at the very disinformation
root of most all things NASA and pretend-atheists at the same time.

There is simply no possible way that Ken or Richard are actually rogue
agents working outside of MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA orchestration or
moderation, and still alive to be sharing such supposed secrets (far
less crimes would get such folks put into our secret prisons and if
need be waterboarded to death without so much as any speck of due
process). I would believe that it does our NASA much good having such
a insider ruse/sting ongoing, because it only makes everything else
NASA look all that more believable. However, if this press event
brings further attention to our physically dark and somewhat salty old
moon that's always saturated in gamma, plus especially X-ray and
double IR nasty by day, then so be it.

BTW, you folks do recall what happened to that certain other original
NASA safety engineer whistleblower and of his entire family, don't
you? (wouldn't that happen again if there was any such disclosed
truths about our moon to behold, especially if such information didn't
fully cover our NASA/Apollo butts)

Not only did those pesky MIB manage to arrange that rather unfortunate
encounter with a locomotive, but also having scrubbed out his entire
safety report, as well as that of his field office and most of
everything else got scrubbed off the face of Earth, almost like that
safety engineer had never existed.

Perhaps something similar will happen to Dr. Ken Johnston. (does Ken
Johnston have a reliable posse that's packing heat?) Or, is this
simply another pretend sort of whistleblower ruse kind of thing that
our government and NASA are really good at pulling off. (at least if I
were NASA, it's exactly what kind of stealth insider damage-control
that I'd be doing and/or allowing right about now)

It seems as though anything that further supports the notions of our
NASA/Apollo astronauts actually walking moonsuit butt naked on that
moon of ours is good enough, even if it comes by way of other
rusemasters trying to pull off whatever can suggest that we'd walked
on that dusty old moon with our unfiltered optics and Kodak film that
was somehow rad-hard and otherwise immune to such raw UV or even UV
secondary/recoil photons, and otherwise simply couldn't notice or much
less record Venus.

It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
obscure back page of which newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format).
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 30, 10:45 pm, BradGuth wrote:
In all possible fairness, there may have been those lunar transported
ETs, as of once upon a time situated onboard our interstellar
migrating icy proto-moon, wheeas that's technically doable for the
likes of accommodating our frail DNA having to survive such an exposed
trek. A thick layer of ice not only makes a perfectly terrific
thermal insulator, but it's also going to function darn good on behalf
of cosmic radiation shielding (a whole lot better off than any
combined terrestrial atmosphere and magnetosphere worth of Van Allen
bets can accommodate, as well as such ice [especially if it's made
extra cold and thus of hard salty ice] being rather nicely impact
resistant).

This following press event should have been well enough over by now,
with at the very least some viable info along with one or more of
those supposed taboo NASA/Apollo images that we've never before seen,
as for their getting usenet posted by at least one soul. I wonder
what's taking so long? (didn't anyone bother to show up?)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s..._frm/thread/f3...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...ead/666efb808a...

Interesting as to how GOOGLE/NOVA sci.space.history and any other
usenet group as hosting this topic was so quick to cut us off at the
pass, and just in time before this "NASA Cover-Ups Continue" of their
National Press Club thing got underway. For the record, I'm also
getting summarily traumatised by those extra butt-loads of their PC
spermware/****ware that's trying every other dirty trick in their Old
Testament book in order to terminate my usenet access, or at least
capable of remote terminating my mouse. Meanwhile, other usenet
groups without having this topic have been much less affected if at
all.

I have no personal doubts as to the possibility of there having been
"ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," as discovered
by our orbiting Apollo robotics (thought not as recorded via
astronauts) and perhaps as such having been legally classified under
the 1958 Space Act by NASA for the past 40+ years.

As to the demonstration and analyzing one of those supposed secret
technologies retrieved by the Apollo crews, relating to the artificial
control of gravity, is entirely proof positive of the ongoing ruse/
sting nature of this forever hocus-pocus fiasco, of the silly hype
worth of infowar/infomercial spewing that's at the very disinformation
root of most all things NASA and pretend-atheists at the same time.

There is simply no possible way that Ken or Richard are actually rogue
agents working outside of MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA orchestration or
moderation, and still alive to be sharing such supposed secrets (far
less crimes would get such folks put into our secret prisons and if
need be waterboarded to death without so much as any speck of due
process). I would believe that it does our NASA much good having such
a insider ruse/sting ongoing, because it only makes everything else
NASA look all that more believable. However, if this press event
brings further attention to our physically dark and somewhat salty old
moon that's always saturated in gamma, plus especially X-ray and
double IR nasty by day, then so be it.

BTW, you folks do recall what happened to that certain other original
NASA safety engineer whistleblower and of his entire family, don't
you?

Not only did those pesky MIB manage to arrange that rather unfortunate
encounter with a locomotive, but also having scrubbed out his entire
safety report, as well as that of his field office and most of
everything else got scrubbed off the face of Earth, almost like he
never existed.

Perhaps something similar will happen to Dr. Ken Johnston. (does Ken
Johnston have a reliable posse that's packing heat?) Or, is this
simply another pretend sort of whistleblower ruse thing that our
government and NASA are really good at pulling off. (at least if I
were NASA, it's exactly what kind of stealth damage-control that I'd
be doing right about now)

It seems as though anything that further supports the notions of our
NASA/Apollo astronauts actually walking moonsuit butt naked on that
moon of ours is good enough, even if it comes by way of other
rusemasters trying to pull off whatever can suggest that we'd walked
on that dusty old moon with our unfiltered optics and Kodak film that
was somehow immune to such raw UV or even UV secondary/recoil photons,
and otherwise simply couldn't notice or much less record Venus.

It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
obscure back page of which newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format)
- Brad Guth -

Thus far, still no public press coverage, or much less of anything
from LeapFrog about squat of what's supposedly so moon like for real
about those xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated terrain photographs of
our guano island pretend it's a moon setting. Even close Kodak shots
of that supposed modified rock are not telling us what and/or how any
of that thick and sticky moon dust managed to get out of those deep
cracks, and of that supposed artificial tower item is just looking too
gosh darn hocus pocus, as though it was something in the guano island
background or on stage that wasn't supposed to be there, as otherwise
it's made of whatever's nearly as black as or darker than coal.

There's actually some extremely weird stuff as robotic photographed
from orbit that's entirely believable as being somewhat artificial
looking, and otherwise just plain old naturally weird about our
physically dark and nasty moon that's oddly somewhat salty.
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 31, 2:14 pm, BradGuth wrote:
According to our XNASA "Enterprise Mission" wizards and author of
"Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA", our moon needs to be re-
explored in much greater detail, of which I'd have to full agree with
that analogy, but not for the same reasons as having been suggested by
NASA's very own weird kind of disinformation/infowar spewing
rusemasters that are indirectly supporting everything NASA/Apollo, as
though it's the one and only whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
help them via whatever faith-based God is putting our hard earned loot
into their offshore bank accounts.


Ken Johnston is NOT a "rusemaster" but a true HERO who bucked the
system and disobeyed a direct order to destroy Apollo original
negatives rather that what SHOULD have been and preserved them for
history and only....are they being digitized for the web...because
NASA KNEW this book was "coming out" and wanted to get on the 'front
side' of this issue...sorta like they are backtracking heavily from
squashing their own AirSafety Report about FAA and AirSpace Safety.

If one would do RESEARCH on things one would KNOW this...and be an
INFORMED commentor.

For EVERYONE's edification and enlightement the "Save the Apollo
Images" 'movement' was started by Keith Laney:

http://keithlaney.net/project_free_t...llo_images.htm

And because of his and his friends continued support through the
years..it is FINALLY coming into fruition...partially because Ken
Johnston is releasing the knowledge that NASA told him to destroy a
set and he did not and is NOW saying so and is freely sharing them
with Researchers.

You can see the beginning of that effort he

http://apollo.sese.asu.edu/

And if you want to know MORE about Ken Johnston see their blog for
FACTS :

http://darkmission.blogspot.com/

-snip-
It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
obscure back page of which newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format).
- Brad Guth -

Then Brad I suggest you wait for REAL NEWS about the event from the
people who put it on...or can you contact someone who WAS there rather
than pull some number of 124 out the air. Where are your FACTS for
that number? Who said it...got a photo from the event to back up that
claim?

Again...RESEARCH counts....where's yours?

If there's nothing to hide...why hide the information, objects or gag
people or documents?

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Don't make promises and policies you don't intend to keep and to keep
the policies and promises you do make.

ACTIONS speak louder than words.
ACTIONS are PROOF of intent.
ACTIONS are the final judgment of character.

It REALLY is that simple.

Bob...
http://www.commonsensecentral.net

On Oct 31, 4:00 pm, rhw007 wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:14 pm, BradGuth wrote:

According to our XNASA "Enterprise Mission" wizards and author of
"Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA", our moon needs to be re-
explored in much greater detail, of which I'd have to full agree with
that analogy, but not for the same reasons as having been suggested by
NASA's very own weird kind of disinformation/infowar spewing
rusemasters that are indirectly supporting everything NASA/Apollo, as
though it's the one and only whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
help them via whatever faith-based God is putting our hard earned loot
into their offshore bank accounts.

Ken Johnston is NOT a "rusemaster" but a true HERO who bucked the
system and disobeyed a direct order to destroy Apollo original
negatives rather that what SHOULD have been and preserved them for
history and only....are they being digitized for the web...because
NASA KNEW this book was "coming out" and wanted to get on the 'front
side' of this issue...sorta like they are backtracking heavily from
squashing their own AirSafety Report about FAA and AirSpace Safety.

But there are no such original NASA/Apollo negatives or original
slides of film that ever spent an EVA minute on that nasty surface of
our anticathode worthy moon. Images as obtained from a robotic
orbiting camera are all that's available, and for the most part that's
still not of the original film.


If one would do RESEARCH on things one would KNOW this...and be an
INFORMED commentor.

For EVERYONE's edification and enlightement the "Save the Apollo
Images" 'movement' was started by Keith Laney:

http://keithlaney.net/project_free_t...llo_images.htm

And because of his and his friends continued support through the
years..it is FINALLY coming into fruition...partially because Ken
Johnston is releasing the knowledge that NASA told him to destroy a
set and he did not and is NOW saying so and is freely sharing them
with Researchers.

You can see the beginning of that effort he

http://apollo.sese.asu.edu/

And if you want to know MORE about Ken Johnston see their blog for
FACTS :

http://darkmission.blogspot.com/

-snip-

It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
obscure back page of which newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format).
- Brad Guth -

Then Brad I suggest you wait for REAL NEWS about the event from the
people who put it on...or can you contact someone who WAS there rather
than pull some number of 124 out the air. Where are your FACTS for
that number? Who said it...got a photo from the event to back up that
claim?

Again...RESEARCH counts....where's yours?

If there's nothing to hide...why hide the information, objects or gag
people or documents?

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Don't make promises and policies you don't intend to keep and to keep
the policies and promises you do make.

ACTIONS speak louder than words.
ACTIONS are PROOF of intent.
ACTIONS are the final judgment of character.

It REALLY is that simple.

Bob... http://www.commonsensecentral.net

Thanks for all that constructive feedback. I'll put it to good work
and report back.

BTW, I hide nothing, and I'm not the least bit all-knowing nor am I
some kind of rusemaster/wizard that pulls stuff out of thin air.

The actions I'd like to take have been posted and unchanged for the
past 7+ years, but unlike so many others, I can't do everything all by
myself. Would you like to help?
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 31, 10:02 pm, BradGuth wrote:
But there are no such original NASA/Apollo negatives or original
slides of film that ever spent an EVA minute on that nasty surface of
our anticathode worthy moon. Images as obtained from a robotic
orbiting camera are all that's available, and for the most part that's
still not of the original film.

snip

Thanks for all that constructive feedback. I'll put it to good work
and report back.

BTW, I hide nothing, and I'm not the least bit all-knowing nor am I
some kind of rusemaster/wizard that pulls stuff out of thin air.

The actions I'd like to take have been posted and unchanged for the
past 7+ years, but unlike so many others, I can't do everything all by
myself. Would you like to help?
- Brad Guth --

I'm busy enough right now trying to steer MY Life into a direction
where I can help bring about a collaboration of people to get
Earthlings back on "The Golden Path" it once was on.

If you don't believe...for whatever reasons...that Neil Armstrong and
all the other Astronauts did NOT walk on the Moon in actuallity...then
I doubt you and I could agree on much concerning the Moon...much less
Mars.

As for SPACE itself...you mau have ideas similar to mine and my
friends...there are many aspects to ALL research into the Universe and
into simply being able to be aware...I am ME.

Check out the links and read the REAL history of the NASA photographs,
both of the Moon and Mars...besides so many others like 'Slinky;s"
coming from the Sun. Sun storms that twirl into DNA lime helixes
spreading millions of miles into space...so many things do NOT fit
into a "mainstream science/news/media/gov" tidy little box with
perfect rules for every situation and entity.

We'll see as we move forward....heartbeat by heartbeat.

Bob...
http://commonsensecentral.net/