Einstein did his best work when he was a complete outsider.

Jeff...Relf wrote:
Hi Art_Deco, a.k.a. T_Puddleduck, Looking at your headers...

T_Puddleduck: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X
Art_Deco: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X

Roy_L_Fuchs is a grammer lammer, just like you... big deal.
Hmm... both of your personalites like _Huge_ sigs with lots of flames:

Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
....
"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Double-A appears to be right,
Einstein did his best work when he was a complete outsider.
What's your problem with that ?
Absolutely everything is a big-ass insurmountable problem for the likes
of the all-knowing Art Deco, William Mook and even David Knisely.

I would also have to totally agree that "Einstein did his best work
when he was a complete outsider".

William.Mook; We must first say what we do not know, before
we can even hope to learn more. Guthball and tomass don't do
that. They assert all sorts of things without evidence because
it feels good."
Because I'm not the least bit all-knowing, I've asked way more than my
fair share of questions from the very get go, such as why are the laws
of physics different for that of our physically dark and nasty moon or
that of another planet like Venus, and as to why we haven't established
the LL-1 science platform or even having the likes of ACE taking a
look-see at the difference which exist between that of our Van Allen
belts and the physically dark and nasty moon of ours, and I've asked
why haven't we obtained hard-science as derived from live and
interactive science probes working from the surface of our moon. I've
even asked more than a hundred times as to why we haven't a stitch of
hard-science pertaining to raw ice in space.

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson

And so fort with at least another thousand such examples of sayings,
including those of Einstine's and of most every other supposedly
intelligent mind that has ever been on Earth.

Observationology is a very real science, and it is worthy if not an
essential phase in most every realm of learning and discovery. Yet
folks like William Mook and David Knisely that continually impose their
all-knowing wizardly mindset of supposed expertise in every conceivable
realm of science are simply chuck full of their anti-ET and otherwise
incest crapolla to the point of no return, while others are merely
infomercial-science snookered and thus 100% dumbfounded beyond the
point of their no return of having committed so many examples of
horrific wrong doings that it's downright embarrassing as to being
associated with the same species.

Mooks's naysayism of using such obvious mainstream status quo lies upon
lies as based upon those conditional laws of physics and of spiffy
infomercial-science that's been NOVA and otherwise promoted as truthism
is worth something less than used toilet paper. Their not believing in
the bible is one thing, and of their not believing in the koran is
obviously another thing, but to not be believing by way of blocking
and/or of having banished those using the regular laws of physics and
of whatever's the best available hard-science that can be replicated is
worse off than even what their Third Reich represented, which obviously
doesn't bother these folks one damn bit.

The nearly 30% inert portion of the GLOW of their Saturn 5 that
supposedly managed such a horrific tonnage at the unbelievable and
unreplicated performance of 60:1 worth of total rocket/payload into
orbiting our moon within as little as 75 hours is just another good
example of the sorts of conditional physics and infomercial science
that's running us amuck. The unavoidable gamma and hard-X-ray
environment of that moon of ours is simply another touch of the truth
that's getting sequestered and/or banished by way of their continual
exclusions of such evidence, and/or by way of insisting that their
conditional laws of physics and infomercial science is the one and only
truth there is to behold.

For everything that I think that I know for certain, I've asked a
thousand questions so that others can contribute by way of sharing
whatever expertise and/or SWAG they've got, and I've given credit
wherever possible. However, time after time only to get the typical
incest naysayism mindset of Lord Mook's anti-everything in the universe
in return. As such, I do believe there's crapolla on this Earth that's
more honest and thereby more intelligent than Mook or even that of
Knisely that are obviously sleeping together along with the likes of
Art Deco and every other collaborating minion to their Third Reich, and
so much so intellectually fornacating that these folks that have become
so bigoted that they've gone blind in the process, and therefore
seemingly can't wait to put the likes of their own kind if not Christ
back on that stick.
-
Brad Guth

Brad Guth wrote:

Jeff...Relf wrote:
Hi Art_Deco, a.k.a. T_Puddleduck, Looking at your headers...

T_Puddleduck: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X
Art_Deco: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X

Roy_L_Fuchs is a grammer lammer, just like you... big deal.
Hmm... both of your personalites like _Huge_ sigs with lots of flames:

Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
....
"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Double-A appears to be right,
Einstein did his best work when he was a complete outsider.
What's your problem with that ?
Absolutely everything is a big-ass insurmountable problem for the likes
of the all-knowing Art Deco, William Mook and even David Knisely.

*ding*

Nice lits o' haet, Brad.

I would also have to totally agree that "Einstein did his best work
when he was a complete outsider".

William.Mook; We must first say what we do not know, before
we can even hope to learn more. Guthball and tomass don't do
that. They assert all sorts of things without evidence because
it feels good."
Because I'm not the least bit all-knowing,

Then why do you keep yammering about you are right and the entire world
is wrong, Brad?

I've asked way more than my
fair share of questions from the very get go, such as why are the laws
of physics different for that of our physically dark and nasty moon or
that of another planet like Venus, and as to why we haven't established
the LL-1 science platform or even having the likes of ACE taking a
look-see at the difference which exist between that of our Van Allen
belts and the physically dark and nasty moon of ours, and I've asked
why haven't we obtained hard-science as derived from live and
interactive science probes working from the surface of our moon. I've
even asked more than a hundred times as to why we haven't a stitch of
hard-science pertaining to raw ice in space.

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

Irony Alert! Shields Up!

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson

And so fort with at least another thousand such examples of sayings,
including those of Einstine's and of most every other supposedly
intelligent mind that has ever been on Earth.

Observationology is a very real science,

No, it's a word you made up, LLPOF-Kook.

and it is worthy if not an
essential phase in most every realm of learning and discovery. Yet
folks like William Mook and David Knisely that continually impose their
all-knowing wizardly mindset of supposed expertise in every conceivable
realm of science are simply chuck full of their anti-ET and otherwise
incest crapolla to the point of no return, while others are merely
infomercial-science snookered and thus 100% dumbfounded beyond the
point of their no return of having committed so many examples of
horrific wrong doings that it's downright embarrassing as to being
associated with the same species.

Mooks's naysayism of using such obvious mainstream status quo lies upon
lies as based upon those conditional laws of physics and of spiffy
infomercial-science that's been NOVA and otherwise promoted as truthism
is worth something less than used toilet paper. Their not believing in
the bible is one thing, and of their not believing in the koran is
obviously another thing, but to not be believing by way of blocking
and/or of having banished those using the regular laws of physics and
of whatever's the best available hard-science that can be replicated is
worse off than even what their Third Reich represented, which obviously
doesn't bother these folks one damn bit.

The nearly 30% inert portion of the GLOW of their Saturn 5 that
supposedly managed such a horrific tonnage at the unbelievable and
unreplicated performance of 60:1 worth of total rocket/payload into
orbiting our moon within as little as 75 hours is just another good
example of the sorts of conditional physics and infomercial science
that's running us amuck. The unavoidable gamma and hard-X-ray
environment of that moon of ours is simply another touch of the truth
that's getting sequestered and/or banished by way of their continual
exclusions of such evidence, and/or by way of insisting that their
conditional laws of physics and infomercial science is the one and only
truth there is to behold.

For everything that I think that I know for certain, I've asked a
thousand questions so that others can contribute by way of sharing
whatever expertise and/or SWAG they've got, and I've given credit
wherever possible. However, time after time only to get the typical
incest naysayism mindset of Lord Mook's anti-everything in the universe
in return. As such, I do believe there's crapolla on this Earth that's
more honest and thereby more intelligent than Mook or even that of
Knisely that are obviously sleeping together along with the likes of
Art Deco and every other collaborating minion to their Third Reich, and

*ding*

so much so intellectually fornacating that these folks that have become
so bigoted that they've gone blind in the process, and therefore
seemingly can't wait to put the likes of their own kind if not Christ
back on that stick.

Same old kookgobble, Brad. Get some new material.
-
Brad Guth


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Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

"Jeff.Relf" wrote in message
...
Hi Art_Deco, a.k.a. T_Puddleduck, Looking at your headers...

Why?

T_Puddleduck: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X
Art_Deco: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X

Roy_L_Fuchs is a grammer lammer, just like you... big deal.
Hmm... both of your personalites like _Huge_ sigs with lots of flames:

Hmm. Interestingly bad comparison there.

Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
....
"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Double-A appears to be right,
Einstein did his best work when he was a complete outsider.
What's your problem with that ?

"Complete outsider" yet able to stay up to date with current thinking in an
age before the internet.

As an aside, this begs the question - so what? Even *if* you were correct it
means nothing. There has been one Einstein in the last 120 years, yet there
have been around 6 billion outsiders. Nice odds.

In article ,
JeffŠRelf wrote:

Hi Art_Deco, a.k.a. T_Puddleduck, Looking at your headers...

T_Puddleduck: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X
Art_Deco: Thoth_1_7_2_Carbon_OS_X

Roy_L_Fuchs is a grammer lammer, just like you... big deal.
Hmm... both of your personalites like _Huge_ sigs with lots of flames:

Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
....
"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Double-A appears to be right,
Einstein did his best work when he was a complete outsider.
What's your problem with that ?


You're the same twit who wrote that density and pressure have the same
units, right?

Yeah... ...I'm not really interested in what you have to say about
science.

Hi Alan_Baker, You asked me:

You're the same twit who wrote that density and pressure have the same units,
right ? Yeah...
I'm not really interested in what you have to say about science.

The equation of state is often _Loosely_ described as pressure over density.
From: www.Cotse.NET/users/jeffrelf/W.PNG
here's the fuller description. Please let me know if you see any errors.

Omega_Total = 1, meaning Density_Cosmos is not enough to contract or expand.
The equation of state, w, is always -1 ; Omega_Lambda is always .74 ; So:
Pressure_Cosmos = - ( .74 / .26 ) * Density_Matter * c^2
( the positive pressure of radiation is insignificant )
So, according to General_Relativity's field equations and e = m * c^2 :
Negative_Pressure = Negative_Energy = Inflation.
Spacetime accrues ( accumulates ) according to Density_Matter.
In other words, mass-energy spontaneously dissipates,
and our observable universe cooled faster when Density_Matter was higher.
See: http://www.RSSD.ESA.INT/SA/PLANCK/do...(2005)1_V2.pdf

Jeff’ĶRelf wrote:

Hi Alan_Baker, You asked me:

You're the same twit who wrote that density and pressure have the same units,
right ? Yeah...
I'm not really interested in what you have to say about science.

The equation of state is often _Loosely_ described as pressure over density.
From: www.Cotse.NET/users/jeffrelf/W.PNG
here's the fuller description. Please let me know if you see any errors.

Omega_Total = 1, meaning Density_Cosmos is not enough to contract or expand.
The equation of state, w, is always -1 ; Omega_Lambda is always .74 ; So:
Pressure_Cosmos = - ( .74 / .26 ) * Density_Matter * c^2
( the positive pressure of radiation is insignificant )
So, according to General_Relativity's field equations and e = m * c^2 :
Negative_Pressure = Negative_Energy = Inflation.
Spacetime accrues ( accumulates ) according to Density_Matter.
In other words, mass-energy spontaneously dissipates,
and our observable universe cooled faster when Density_Matter was higher.
See: http://www.RSSD.ESA.INT/SA/PLANCK/do...(2005)1_V2.pdf

I see lots of underscores, Jeff._Relf._

--
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Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

In article , Art Deco
wrote:

Jeff’ĶRelf wrote:

Hi Alan_Baker, You asked me:

You're the same twit who wrote that density and pressure have the same
units,
right ? Yeah...
I'm not really interested in what you have to say about science.

The equation of state is often _Loosely_ described as pressure over density.
From: www.Cotse.NET/users/jeffrelf/W.PNG
here's the fuller description. Please let me know if you see any errors.

Omega_Total = 1, meaning Density_Cosmos is not enough to contract or
expand.
The equation of state, w, is always -1 ; Omega_Lambda is always .74 ; So:
Pressure_Cosmos = - ( .74 / .26 ) * Density_Matter * c^2
( the positive pressure of radiation is insignificant )
So, according to General_Relativity's field equations and e = m * c^2 :
Negative_Pressure = Negative_Energy = Inflation.
Spacetime accrues ( accumulates ) according to Density_Matter.
In other words, mass-energy spontaneously dissipates,
and our observable universe cooled faster when Density_Matter was higher.
See: http://www.RSSD.ESA.INT/SA/PLANCK/do...(2005)1_V2.pdf

I see lots of underscores, Jeff._Relf._


Teh Relf method

1. Copy and paste from websites
2. Scrape from wiki
3. Add plenty of underscores
4. ??????????????????
5. PROFIT!

--
Relf's Law? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Bull**** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses."
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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Please pay no attention to my butt poking forward, it is expanding.
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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"I don't know that much math." - tomgee; 2 April 2006
"I don't claim to know what I'm talking about" - tomgee; 10 May 2006
PWNED

"Puddle**** tou are on my kill file. Good bye" - Vert admits he cannot
calculate \gamma for a photon and admits defeat - 2nd July 2006
PWNED

hineas T Puddleduck wrote:

In article , Art Deco
wrote:

Jeff’ĶRelf wrote:

Hi Alan_Baker, You asked me:

You're the same twit who wrote that density and pressure have the same
units,
right ? Yeah...
I'm not really interested in what you have to say about science.

The equation of state is often _Loosely_ described as pressure over density.
From: www.Cotse.NET/users/jeffrelf/W.PNG
here's the fuller description. Please let me know if you see any errors.

Omega_Total = 1, meaning Density_Cosmos is not enough to contract or
expand.
The equation of state, w, is always -1 ; Omega_Lambda is always .74 ;
So:
Pressure_Cosmos = - ( .74 / .26 ) * Density_Matter * c^2
( the positive pressure of radiation is insignificant )
So, according to General_Relativity's field equations and e = m * c^2 :
Negative_Pressure = Negative_Energy = Inflation.
Spacetime accrues ( accumulates ) according to Density_Matter.
In other words, mass-energy spontaneously dissipates,
and our observable universe cooled faster when Density_Matter was higher.
See: http://www.RSSD.ESA.INT/SA/PLANCK/do...(2005)1_V2.pdf

I see lots of underscores, Jeff._Relf._


Teh Relf method

1. Copy and paste from websites
2. Scrape from wiki
3. Add plenty of underscores
4. ??????????????????
5. PROFIT!
6. Demonstrate idiocy on usenet

--
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Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Jeff...Relf wrote:
retarded ****.

you are a dickhead.

In article , Jeff’ĶRelf
wrote:

Hi Alan_Baker, You asked me:

You're the same twit who wrote that density and pressure have the same
units,
right ? Yeah...
I'm not really interested in what you have to say about science.

The equation of state is often _Loosely_ described as pressure over density.
From: www.Cotse.NET/users/jeffrelf/W.PNG
here's the fuller description. Please let me know if you see any errors.

1. trim the unnecessary newsgroups
2. Learn some physics

--
Relf's Law? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Bull**** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses."
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Official emperor of sci.physics, head mumbler of the "Cult of INSANE SCIENCE".
Please pay no attention to my butt poking forward, it is expanding.
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
PWNER of Vert and TomGee since 2006
"I don't know that much math." - tomgee; 2 April 2006
"I don't claim to know what I'm talking about" - tomgee; 10 May 2006
PWNED

"Puddle**** tou are on my kill file. Good bye" - Vert admits he cannot
calculate \gamma for a photon and admits defeat - 2nd July 2006
PWNED