CEV to be made commercially available

Rand Simberg wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 14:10:44 -0800, in a place far, far away,
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

No, no, Scott -- this is the core of what you have wrong. The public
doesn't care a fig about HERO-ASTRONAUTS unless there is a hint of
blood and gore (a bit like NASCAR). What VG, XCOR, Bigelow are selling
is PERSONAL SPACE TRAVEL, and quite a few more people are interested in
that.


Here's your problem: the public tends to identify more with astronauts
than bajillionaires.

What difference does it make whether or not the public identifies with
bajillionaires?

Simple: the claim here was that people don't care about astronauts,
they care about "personal space travel." "PST" is all about
bajillionaires, and will be for a while. But astronauts... people like.

Again, so what? People do care about personal space travel, if
they're the ones personally space traveling. Those who can afford it
will do so

snip

Half of those who can afford it *might* do so. At least according to
Futron.

We're fans, we really do mistake the rest of the world for having our
interests far too much.

Dave

On 24 Nov 2005 16:43:19 -0800, in a place far, far away, "Dave
O'Neill" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Here's your problem: the public tends to identify more with astronauts
than bajillionaires.

What difference does it make whether or not the public identifies with
bajillionaires?

Simple: the claim here was that people don't care about astronauts,
they care about "personal space travel." "PST" is all about
bajillionaires, and will be for a while. But astronauts... people like.

Again, so what? People do care about personal space travel, if
they're the ones personally space traveling. Those who can afford it
will do so

snip

Half of those who can afford it *might* do so. At least according to
Futron.

We're fans, we really do mistake the rest of the world for having our
interests far too much.

This is a really stupid argument, as I told you on my blog. I don't
know why you continue to repeat it, unless you just like to make
yourself look like a fool on the internet. Of course not everyone who
can afford it will do so. But those who can afford to do so, and want
to do so, will. And Scott's point remains pointless.

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Rand Simberg wrote:
On 10 Nov 2005 13:12:06 -0800, in a place far, far away,
" made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:


snidely wrote:

No, no, Scott -- this is the core of what you have wrong. The public
doesn't care a fig about HERO-ASTRONAUTS unless there is a hint of
blood and gore (a bit like NASCAR). What VG, XCOR, Bigelow are
selling
is PERSONAL SPACE TRAVEL, and quite a few more people are interested
in
that.


Here's your problem: the public tends to identify more with astronauts
than bajillionaires.

What difference does it make whether or not the public identifies with
bajillionaires?

Simple: the claim here was that people don't care about astronauts,
they care about "personal space travel." "PST" is all about
bajillionaires, and will be for a while. But astronauts... people like.

I'll bet the typical US taxpayer could name more bajillionares than they
could astronauts. There are countless TV shows and magazines devoted to
famous people. Precious few astronauts show up in those rags.

Jeff
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Jeff Findley wrote:


I'll bet the typical US taxpayer could name more bajillionares than they
could astronauts.


Probably. But then, when was the last time an astronaut did something?

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Scott Lowther wrote:


I'll bet the typical US taxpayer could name more bajillionares than they
could astronauts.


Probably. But then, when was the last time an astronaut did something?


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Pat

Scott Lowther wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:


I'll bet the typical US taxpayer could name more bajillionares than they
could astronauts.


Probably. But then, when was the last time an astronaut did something?


Well, the most famous astronauts ever were the First Seven, and a guy*
who finally showed up on the moon. Do you think Jay Leno's
"Streetwalking" segment would find anybody under 40 who could name
them? I'd bet even most of the 40-60 crowd would strike out.

*I think he was a Scottish Enforcer...Nall the Strong Arm. ISTR that
there was somebody else who went to the moon, too. ;-)

/dps