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Old July 28th 05, 02:06 AM
jonathan
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Default Shuttle Replacement Needs to Become a National Priority!!!


As in "to the moon and back by the end of the decade".


Mars will have to take a back-seat, we can't wait ten
years for a replacement.


Jonathan

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Old July 28th 05, 02:38 AM
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As in "to the moon and back by the end of the decade".



Why?

What's so important?


Mars will have to take a back-seat, we can't wait ten
years for a replacement.


Jonathan

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Old July 28th 05, 02:57 AM
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"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message
nk.net...

"jonathan" wrote in message
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As in "to the moon and back by the end of the decade".



Why?

What's so important?



All our most ambitious plans in space revolve
around a transportation system. Nasa should
tell Congress that this was the LAST shuttle
flight, they are too dangerous.

Let me ask you, looking into the future what is our biggest problem
facing us? Isn't it our global energy needs? In fifty years or so
we need to replace oil with other sources. Solar energy, collected
in space, is the ...only... practical path. Fusion is a pipe-dream.

Here is another Nasa dream that needs to be pushed forward.
http://spacesolarpower.nasa.gov/





Mars will have to take a back-seat, we can't wait ten
years for a replacement.


Jonathan

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Old July 28th 05, 03:09 AM
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"jonathan" wrote in
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That's it. You've done a Bob Haller and I'm
writing you off.

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Old July 28th 05, 03:15 AM
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"Damon Hill" wrote in message
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"jonathan" wrote in
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That's it. You've done a Bob Haller and I'm
writing you off.

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What took you so long?




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Old July 28th 05, 03:32 AM
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"Dr. P. Quackenbush" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Damon Hill" wrote in message
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"jonathan" wrote in
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That's it. You've done a Bob Haller and I'm
writing you off.

(plonk)

--Damon



What took you so long?



You guys sound like a couple of fourth-graders









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Old July 28th 05, 04:29 AM
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In article ,
jonathan wrote:


Let me ask you, looking into the future what is our biggest problem
facing us? Isn't it our global energy needs? In fifty years or so
we need to replace oil with other sources.


Coal liquifaction should see us well into the 21st century,
assuming the whole world industrializes (centuries if they don't).

I also hear tell that there's this atomic power stuff from the
pulps that looks promising and a certain amound of uranium and thorium
in the Earth's crust, to the tune of about 10^30 joules worth or about
equal to the energy in 160,000,000,000,000,000,000 barrels of oil. Humans
use use about 10^13 watts but most of us are poor: multiply that rate
by 20 and there's enough fissionables to last us about 160 million years.
If we'd got started using atomic power in the late Jurassic, we'd just be
running out now.

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Old July 28th 05, 04:30 AM
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In article ,
James Nicoll wrote:
In article ,
jonathan wrote:


Let me ask you, looking into the future what is our biggest problem
facing us? Isn't it our global energy needs? In fifty years or so
we need to replace oil with other sources.


Coal liquifaction should see us well into the 21st century,
assuming the whole world industrializes (centuries if they don't).


Nggg. Into the 22nd century, I mean.
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Old July 28th 05, 05:25 AM
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"James Nicoll" wrote in message
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In article ,
jonathan wrote:


Let me ask you, looking into the future what is our biggest problem
facing us? Isn't it our global energy needs? In fifty years or so
we need to replace oil with other sources.


Coal liquifaction should see us well into the 21st century,
assuming the whole world industrializes (centuries if they don't).

I also hear tell that there's this atomic power stuff from the
pulps that looks promising and a certain amound of uranium and thorium
in the Earth's crust, to the tune of about 10^30 joules worth or about
equal to the energy in 160,000,000,000,000,000,000 barrels of oil. Humans
use use about 10^13 watts but most of us are poor: multiply that rate
by 20 and there's enough fissionables to last us about 160 million years.
If we'd got started using atomic power in the late Jurassic, we'd just be
running out now.



And what about the rest of the world? When will, say, Indonesia, India
or Mexico get to build dozens and dozens of nuclear power plants?

And what about climate change when the rest of the world becomes
industrialized and is then burning ten times the fossil fuels we are now?
I don't see a future in that.



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Old July 28th 05, 03:09 PM
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:57:59 -0400, "jonathan"
wrote, in part:

Let me ask you, looking into the future what is our biggest problem
facing us? Isn't it our global energy needs? In fifty years or so
we need to replace oil with other sources. Solar energy, collected
in space, is the ...only... practical path. Fusion is a pipe-dream.


If fusion power is a problem, thorium breeders will serve nicely.

Solar power satellites are dangerous and expensive - only an L5 habitat
could make them economically.

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