Pioneer 10 & 11 Spacecraft Deceleration Anomaly Revisited

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:52:22 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote:



Richard Saam wrote:


It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dx) has units of /time. This
is the same unit as the Hubble constant in cosmology.
Could the cosmos (volume) be observed as an orthokinetic fluid medium
with vacuum energy density having a viscosity
such that observed Hubble "shear" is congruent with galactic mass
distribution with the universe?


Explain again how this lets us know that the universe is in the shape of
a banana. ;-)

Arthur

How is it that Sue Jahn used the signature 'Richard Saam' and Pat Flannery the
signaure 'Arthur'?

When you change your name, you should always remember to change your signature
as well.


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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:36:28 GMT, H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote:

When you change your name, you should always remember to change your signature
as well.

....If you're too inept to keep track of things, don't complain to us.
That's *your* problem, not ours.

OM

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Henri Wilson wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:52:22 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Arthur

HW.
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It seems that the French have been importing German Senses of Humor
again.

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Henri Wilson wrote:

Explain again how this lets us know that the universe is in the shape of
a banana. ;-)

Arthur



How is it that Sue Jahn used the signature 'Richard Saam' and Pat Flannery the
signaure 'Arthur'?

When you change your name, you should always remember to change your signature
as well.



Ni! Ni! :-)

Sir Percival

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:28:45 GMT, Richard Saam wrote:

In the field of waste water, drinking water and
sanitation there is the concept of orthokinetic
flocculation which is generally mathematically expressed by

shear = sqrt(Power/(viscosity x Volume))

Given a tank (with "Volume" cm^3)
filled with water
(with absolute "viscosity" g/(cm sec))
(momentum transferred per surface area)
and this water containing particles,
a "Power" (erg/sec)
(motor driven impeller)
is introduced to provide "shear" (/sec) (dv/dx)
within the water.

v2 - Particle 2
/
/ ^
/ |
/ x
/
v1 - Particle 1

Particle 1 and Particle 2 move at different velocities
in the shear (v2-v1)/delta_x or dv/dx

Proper selection of shear ensures that particles remain
suspended in the fluid and if they aggregate or remain
separate.

It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dx) has units
of /time. This is the same unit as the Hubble constant
in cosmology.

No, its closest analogy is to angular velocity and rotation 1/t.

Could the cosmos (volume) be observed as an
orthokinetic fluid medium with vacuum energy density
having a viscosity
such that observed Hubble "shear" is congruent with
galactic mass distribution with the universe?

Richard Saam

John Polasek
http://www.dualspace.net

John C. Polasek wrote:

It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dx) has units
of /time. This is the same unit as the Hubble constant
in cosmology.



No, its closest analogy is to angular velocity and rotation 1/t.



He still hasn't explained what the four elephants are standing on.
I'm betting they are standing on the back of Gamera and walking in a
circle; since Gamera spins as he flies, this solves the "What's Gamera
standing on then?" day and night cycle, and seasons of the year problems
simultaneously.
The retrograde motion of Mars? Well, every time Gamera faces toward the
giant Legion insect, it retreats in terror.
Nothing could be simpler or more logical. :-)

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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John C. Polasek wrote:

It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dx) has units of /time. This is
the same unit as the Hubble constant in cosmology.


No, its closest analogy is to angular velocity and rotation 1/t.


He still hasn't explained what the four elephants are standing on.

Great A'Tuin, the giant turtle. Geez.

John C. Polasek wrote:

snip

It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dx) has units
of /time. This is the same unit as the Hubble constant
in cosmology.


No, its closest analogy is to angular velocity and rotation 1/t.


Could the cosmos (volume) be observed as an
orthokinetic fluid medium with vacuum energy density
having a viscosity
such that observed Hubble "shear" is congruent with
galactic mass distribution with the universe?

Richard Saam


John Polasek
http://www.dualspace.net

OK I will restate the approach:

In the field of waste water, drinking water and
sanitation there is the concept of orthokinetic
flocculation which is generally mathematically expressed by

shear = sqrt(Power/(viscosity x Volume))

This applies to any geometric form but for this
discusion assume a circular tank.

Given a circular tank (with "Volume" cm3)
filled with water
(with absolute "viscosity" g/(cm sec))
(momentum transferred per surface area)
and this water containing particles,
a "Power" (erg/sec)
(motor driven impeller)
is introduced to provide "shear" (/sec) (dv/dr)
within the water.

v2 - Particle 2
/
/ ^
/ |
/ r
/
v1 - Particle 1

Particle 1 and Particle 2 move at different velocities
in the shear (v2-v1)/delta_r or dv/dr

In terms of r, there may be a (2 pi) factor required,
but the orthokinetic concept would still be applicable
and would be analagous to commercially available fluid
vortex tubes.

Proper selection of shear ensures that particles remain
suspended in the fluid and if they aggregate or remain
separate.

It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dr) has units
of /time. This is the same unit as the Hubble constant
in cosmology.
Could the cosmos (volume) be observed as an
orthokinetic fluid medium with vacuum energy density
having a viscosity
such that observed Hubble "shear" is congruent with
galactic mass distribution with the universe?

As an added note, volume can refer to any volume
segment. For instance, the ortho kinetic concept
is applicable to any volume segment in a large mixing
tank and in case of the universe would be applicable to
any volume segment of galaxies with intervening space
and would not be dependent on whether the Universe is
finite or infinite in extent or dependent on any
particular boundary condition (Only the Hubble constant
within that volume).

As for the actual Hubble constant

71.23 km s^-1 Mpc^-1

which dimensionally is:

v (km s^-1) / x (million parsec)

or

2.31E-18 s^-1

1 Parsec = 3.08568025E18 cm


Hubble constant =2.31E-18 s^-1
=2.31E-18 (feet s^-1)/feet
=2.31E-18 (mile s^-1)/mile
=2.31E-18 (inch s^-1)/inch
=2.31E-18 (cubit s^-1)/cubit
=2.31E-18 (furlong s^-1)/furlong
=2.31E-18 (parsec s^-1)/parsec
=2.31E-18 (km s^-1)/km

The value to keep particles in suspension for the water
treatment application is about 50 s^-1.

Richard Saam

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:42:25 GMT, Richard Saam wrote:

SNIP

....Would you junior Mr. Wizards kindly remove sci.space.history from
the headers of this thread? We've AbZero interest in this.

Thanks.

OM

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poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

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"Richard Saam" wrote in message
...
It is interesting to note that shear (dv/dx) has units of /time. This is
the same unit as the Hubble constant in cosmology.

The Hubble "constant" has complicated units, not simply time^-1 (and may not
be a constant).

For example a good "estimate" of its current value is 70 km s^-1 Mpc^-1