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KAZAKHSTAN'S SPACESHIP JUNKYARD (EurasiaNet Photo Essay, 2002)



 
 
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Old March 21st 05, 11:23 PM
Reed Snellenberger
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Pat Flannery wrote:

What the hell is photo # 11 about? Did the cattle get too near some
Proton fuel, or were they shot for counterrevolutionary sympathies?


Isn't it obvious?

"The tank that fell and killed these poor animals had just been removed
when this picture was taken. You must pay me for six head of cattle!"

Training the cattle to lie down on command with the appropriate spacing
to match an R-7 booster was so difficult that cattle retraining costs
were the real reason for canceling Energia...

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Old March 22nd 05, 12:40 AM
Pat Flannery
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Reed Snellenberger wrote:


Isn't it obvious?

"The tank that fell and killed these poor animals had just been
removed when this picture was taken. You must pay me for six head of
cattle!"

Training the cattle to lie down on command with the appropriate
spacing to match an R-7 booster was so difficult that cattle
retraining costs were the real reason for canceling Energia...



Oddly enough, that was the first thought that occurred to me also...
would a Kazak rancher pull something like this?
Nah, they are honest as the day is long... at Murmansk on the Winter
Solstice. :-)

Pat
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Old March 23rd 05, 09:51 PM
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Pat Flannery ) wrote:


: Jim Oberg wrote:

: I just came across a three-year-old posting about space junk from Baykonur.
: Sorry for the delay or for my not noticing (or forgetting -- it's happening
: more
: often these years!!) that somebody else had already posted it.
:
:

: Photos # 3-4 I knew there had to be a lot of R-7 strap-on boosters lying
: around out there somewhere.
: What the hell is photo # 11 about? Did the cattle get too near some
: Proton fuel, or were they shot for counterrevolutionary sympathies?

The real source of mad cow disease?

Eric

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Old March 23rd 05, 10:26 PM
Pat Flannery
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Eric Chomko wrote:

: What the hell is photo # 11 about? Did the cattle get too near some
: Proton fuel, or were they shot for counterrevolutionary sympathies?

The real source of mad cow disease?





AHA! I think you've discovered it!
And they are not alone in this problem:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02...orate_in_milk/


Pat
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Old March 24th 05, 05:09 PM
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Pat Flannery wrote:
Photos # 3-4 I knew there had to be a lot of R-7 strap-on boosters

lying
around out there somewhere.


Nearly 6,800+ of the strap-on boosters over the
years (almost 1,700 launches), but the majority
of those out of Russia's Northern Cosmodrome.

The halfway decent condition of the booster in
this photo makes you wonder if the Korolev bureau
ever tried, at least experimentally, to recover
and reuse these things.

- Ed Kyle

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Old March 24th 05, 07:43 PM
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Ed Kyle wrote:

The halfway decent condition of the booster in
this photo makes you wonder if the Korolev bureau
ever tried, at least experimentally, to recover
and reuse these things.


I was somewhat surprised to see the photo of the one with the motors
still on it- although most of the motor was fairly cheap metal, the
turbopumps and plumbing should have had some alloys in them that would
have scrap metal value.
Does anyone know what the catalyst is for the hydrogen peroxide
generator that drives the turbopumps? Sometimes silver is used, and that
would be certainly worth recovering.

Pat
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Old March 24th 05, 07:57 PM
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"Ed Kyle" wrote
The halfway decent condition of the booster in
this photo makes you wonder if the Korolev bureau
ever tried, at least experimentally, to recover
and reuse these things.


Good thought -- and I've been told that teams in fact
do retrieve turbopump packages and other black boxes, for
refurbishment and reflight in new vehicles.



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Old March 23rd 05, 09:46 PM
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Jim Oberg ) wrote:
: I just came across a three-year-old posting about space junk from Baykonur.
: Sorry for the delay or for my not noticing (or forgetting -- it's happening
: more
: often these years!!) that somebody else had already posted it.

: Jim O
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: KAZAKHSTAN'S SPACESHIP JUNKYARD
: A by Jonas Bendiksen
: Text by Laara Matsen

: Posted April 19, 2002 © Eurasianet

: http://www.eurasianet.org/department...av041902.shtml


I nominate photo 8 as "Kazakhstan Gothic".


 




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