Telescopes of Captain James Cook.

David Knisely wrote:

Jerry Warner wrote:

I think I was told once its Gregorian - note the long tube for the 4' ap at f/6.

Only the Gregorians had such low focal lengths - ???
jerry


I meant long not low! sorry.


I think that some of them did have somewhat shorter focal lengths. The
Gregorian might have been easier to make, since it used only concave optics
and these were easier to test than convex surfaces.

My understanding also David.

I recall a club program
put on by Dr. Eugene Rudd of UNL (Antique Telescope Society) who brought
several of these wonderful brass instruments to our meeting. One was a 3 or 4
inch Gregorian, and although the instrument looked wonderful, I understand
that the performance wasn't all that hot.

again my understanding also for most of these old optics, but it shouldnt be any
surprise. I was also told once that it had something to do with the way they ground
optics and the whole theory of optical fabrication in former times - that the older
fabricators thought concave surfaces were easier to grind and control for some reason?

Gregs are rare now in the amateur market. Lomo used to make a small one?
Run the specs. Secondaries get very wide for a given ap as the fl decreases so
you quickly lose aperture in order to gain say f/6, f/5, etc - designers today would
not accept that tradeoff. Dr. Stritmatter at Tucson had a 16" f/10 gergorian that
Ed Plamondon had made for him - Ed said it was a "great performer". Ed thought
about building several more for amateur use but then changed his mind, building
three classical cass. instead (all went to universities).

To me at least the greg design has always been interesting. I wouldnt be surprised
to see it come back in some form ???
Thanks,
Jerry



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David Knisely wrote in message ...
Thomas M wrote:

I thought the SCT principle was much younger than that...its an F6 SCT in
the article

The reflector in the article is not an SCT. It is a simple Cassegrain,
possibly Classical or Gregorian, as the Gregorians were often resorted to
during the era of the "brass" telescope (the tube length argues for a
Gregorian). The SCT is a different and much more recent design (circa 1962)
using spherical optics and a large corrector plate. Clear skies to you.
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What little I have read about James Short suggests it was a Gregorian
with a parabolic mirror. The guy was pretty impressive he made
something like 1,360 telescopes during his life.

Clear skys
James King

"Thomas M" wrote in news:Jtt1c.59905$A12.9134@edtnps84:


"Larry Brown" wrote in message
...
In case you haven't seen the page about Captain James Cook. It took
me over two years to research this and find out what telescopes he
actually took with him. The answer came from a ship's manifest. You
can find the pages he
http://www.antiquetelescopes.org/cook.html
I have also added a page about fake antique telescopes.
I can't help wondering if the name Captain James T Kirk was taken
from Captain James Cook. Cook was a real explorer who went where no
man had gone before, after all.



I thought the SCT principle was much younger than that...its an F6
SCT in the article



It doesn't say an SCT. Though F6 does seem rather fast for a classical
cassegrain or similar.

Llanzlan

Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th wrote in
7.6:

"Thomas M" wrote in news:Jtt1c.59905$A12.9134@edtnps84:


"Larry Brown" wrote in message
...
In case you haven't seen the page about Captain James Cook. It took
me over two years to research this and find out what telescopes he
actually took with him. The answer came from a ship's manifest. You
can find the pages he
http://www.antiquetelescopes.org/cook.html
I have also added a page about fake antique telescopes.
I can't help wondering if the name Captain James T Kirk was taken
from Captain James Cook. Cook was a real explorer who went where no
man had gone before, after all.



I thought the SCT principle was much younger than that...its an F6
SCT in the article



It doesn't say an SCT. Though F6 does seem rather fast for a classical
cassegrain or similar.

Llanzlan


Reading some other sites. I conclude that the scope was most likely a
Gregorian.

Llanzlan.