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Old July 27th 11, 09:05 PM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
David E. Powell
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it inthe Pacific Ocean.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P
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Old July 27th 11, 10:37 PM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Dennis
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it in the Pacific Ocean.

David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-sink-internat
ional-space-station-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle out.

2) China will fragment internally. The coastal cities and regions are
making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some of it to
the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to tell the
coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to us; mainly it
means China won't be much of a player on the world scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as it
rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers. It won't
get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European states. It will
end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)

Dennis
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Old July 27th 11, 10:51 PM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Keith Willshaw[_3_]
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it in the Pacific Ocean.

David E. Powell wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/


In point of fact that represents an EXTENSION of its life. The
original plan was to decommission it by 2015

Keith


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Old July 28th 11, 12:22 AM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Jonathan
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it in the Pacific Ocean.


"Dennis" wrote in message
. 4.11...
David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-sink-internat
ional-space-station-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle out.



It already has. The death of bin Laden set off hints of protests.



2) China will fragment internally.



It should fragment suddenly and dramatically
into several new nations. When the govt is rigid
and unchanging, but the needs and opinions of
the people constantly evolve, the two camps
must steadily drift apart. The internal stress there
must be enormous.

It's the largest house of cards ever. Just waiting
for some kind of event or martyr to bring it down.
I doubt if China will last five years, let along ten.
It could happen at any time.


The coastal cities and regions are
making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some of it to
the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to tell the
coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to us; mainly it
means China won't be much of a player on the world scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as it
rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers. It won't
get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European states. It will
end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)



Russia is still smarting from the pressure we put on them
to splash the old Mir space station, so they could keep
up with their part of the ISS construction.


Dennis



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Old July 28th 11, 03:10 AM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Andrew Swallow[_3_]
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to dropit in the Pacific Ocean.

On 27/07/2011 21:05, David E. Powell wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Nothing to worry about 2020 is when NASA stops funding the International
Space Station. The Russians are just working out what to do about the mess.

Andrew Swallow
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Old July 28th 11, 05:07 AM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Dennis
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it in the Pacific Ocean.

David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-sink-internat
ional-space-station-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Where's it gonna come down? Remember Skylab? :-)

Dennis
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Old July 28th 11, 06:43 AM posted to sci.space.station,sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Brian Gaff
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it in the Pacific Ocean.



"Dennis" wrote in message
. 4.11...
David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-sink-internat
ional-space-station-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Where's it gonna come down? Remember Skylab? :-)

Dennis

Actually, this is hardly new news is it? The debate on what to do with it
after its got terminal knackered-ness has been going on for some time.
I'd certainly not want to see an uncontrolled re entry when its done. The
real legacy of the station, in my view has been learning what works and what
does not in space and how to make things up there.
The next stage in the story is how to survive with large amounts of
radiation around and very reliable repairable life support systems that do
not rely on being close to the source of the parts for survival.

Can we do it? Hard to say yet. We could find we are marooned here.

Brian


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Old July 28th 11, 09:03 AM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
dott.Piergiorgio[_2_]
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to dropit in the Pacific Ocean.

Il 27/07/2011 22:05, David E. Powell ha scritto:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


again is Russia whose have the largest experience in scuttling space
stations...

(yes, "scuttling", naval term, is the best term for the controlled
re-entry into atmosphere)

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

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Old July 28th 11, 09:08 AM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
dott.Piergiorgio[_2_]
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to dropit in the Pacific Ocean.

Il 27/07/2011 23:37, Dennis ha scritto:


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle out.

2) China will fragment internally. The coastal cities and regions are
making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some of it to
the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to tell the
coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to us; mainly it
means China won't be much of a player on the world scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as it
rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers. It won't
get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European states. It will
end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)


In what year was published ? and from the date of publication until now
what is the rate of successful predictions ?

Anyway, I highly mistrust "laity" (so to speak) predictions...

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

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Old July 28th 11, 06:02 PM posted to sci.military.naval,sci.space.shuttle
Ray O'Hara[_2_]
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Default Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it in the Pacific Ocean.


"David E. Powell" wrote in message
...
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P



you should have bitched in 2006 then when G.W.Bush decided to end the
program.


 




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