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Old August 31st 07, 12:57 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
Henri Wilson
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Default Why are the 'Fixed Stars' so FIXED?

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:31:39 +0000 (UTC), bz
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HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote in
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not solid rubber ones.....that's what I'm talking about.

Whatever.


Is that all you can say...'whatever' when we're discussing the basis of
my 'K factor' theory..?


Henri, your 'K factor' theory died some time back when I pointed out that a
'K factor' compression of photons implies observable effects that are not
observed.


.......but they are
That is why brightness and velocity curves are usually similar in shape but
different in magnituge change.

Any effect on photons causing them to compress when crowded together would
show up as shifts in wavelength and frequency of the emission from high
intensity sources, such as lasers.


....but photon density isn't actually what CAUSES them to compress. It just
happens to occur concurrently.Photons compress if their source is accelerating
or if they change speed during travel...but they're kind of 'damped' so the
movement doesn't go on forever.

Also, 'as the pressure goes down, the photons would decompress' just like
the rubber ball springs back when removed from the depths. Surely the weak
streams of photons we receive from those distant stars have insufficient
'pressure' to keep the photons compressed.

You can't propose a 'non elastic compression', where the photons stay
compressed because they are already 'highly compressed' at the time of
emission by the star.


the K factor is small. maybe 10^-4

Also lasers can operate at very low emission rates (in fact, there are
single photon lasers) and any such effect would show up as drastic shifts
in the emission band as the laser's output power was varied.

Give up on your 'K'. It is disproved daily by millions of laser diodes used
for gigabyte fiber optical data transmission.


no Bob you have it all wrong...

If the photons 'bunched up' the way you propose, it would cause very strong
phase shifts and keying transients, making it impossible to push data down
those fibers at the rates data is sent, every day.

If you ever have heard a radio-telegraph transmitters that has chirp
(frequency shift during turn-on) and clicks (wide keying sidebands due to
too sharp turn-on/turn-off), you will know that such a transmitter can
cause interference with communications across a wide portion of the radio
spectrum. Any attempt to transmit data at a high data rate, with such a
transmitter, would fail.

That is exactly why your 'K' factor 'photon compression' idea is dead.


You have entirely the wrong impression...



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