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On 19 May 2007 03:08:32 -0700, Jerry wrote:
On May 16, 4:59 am, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 15 May 2007 23:58:39 -0700, Jerry wrote: No crap, Henri. Experiments such as you have proposed in the past to measure one-way speed of light are effectively being performed on a continuous basis in tracking interplanetary spacecraft. They aren't even experiments anymore, but instead are simply routine engineering considerations. DSN determinations of spacecraft radial velocity are accurate to 0.05 millimeters per second, and range determinations are routinely accurate to three meters. (Scientific American, August 2006, p 100) Any discrepancy in signal timings resulting from c+v effects should have been noticed long ago. c+v effects simply don't exist. Is that why those Mars probes crashed? Is that why the HST didn't work until somebody woke up.... Is that why pioneer has an anomalous redshift? The Mars probes crashed because a mixup in Metric versus English units resulted in a timing failure during the landing sequence. Tracking to Mars was every bit as accurate as I have indicated. Ballistic theory does not alter the equations of geometric optics, especially if, as you propose, HST is orbiting within the local whatever-you-call-it local H-aether frame of the Earth. The mirror was polished incorrectly because it was unit-tested with an incorrectly assembled null corrector, but the engineers at Perkin-Elmer had been so confident of their unit test results that they never gave the mirror assembly any sort of overall system test; furthermore, the engineers ignored the test results from two secondary test instruments that indicated that the miror was incorrectly figured. The Pioneer anomaly is not explainable as a c+v effect. If you want to claim that it is, please show your calculations. Yes, Yes Jerry,, keep your head in the sand, it wont worry me.... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Spacecraft tracking information provides an extremely stringent test of c+v. Consider the Cassini orbiter. Cassini's precise orbital parameters about Saturn vary because they are occasionally adjusted to redirect the probe to fly by various of Saturn's moons. As an order-of-magnitude estimate, however, let us assume that v towards and away from Earth varies from about +/- 10 km/s during Cassini's orbit about Saturn. On average, Saturn is, say, about 1.5x10^9 km from the Earth. That means that signals from Cassini take about 5000 seconds to reach Earth. If ballistic theory holds, then signals from Cassini would be expected to be advanced and retarded by roughly 10/300000x5000 seconds as Cassini approaches and recedes from Earth each orbit. That amounts to a several TENTHS OF A SECOND anomaly, which is simply not observed. It IS observed but it it is not recognozed because the orbit itself is in error due to c+v. Ballistic theory utterly FAILS, Henri. B-----------A -v- C _____________ Observer C 'watches' light moving from distant star A to distant orbiting star B. |
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