![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Actually it's not istead of, but more likely at 0.01% of, as even 1%
of 18 billion is a whopping 180 million per year, of which I'd take that in a flash. This is also instead our of messing up another good thing by terriforming Venus (of which we know little if anything about doing, at least not without our inflicting far more harm than good), of how about just dealing with what's already there, as in 625°K nighttime at the elevation of 5 km. Under a pressure of 75+ bar, 625°K is toasty but actually it isn't all that bad, thereby folks like yourself certainly do not require all that much O2%, although a tonne of refrigeration could certainly improve upon your personal environment. Though why intentionally contaminate another world with human arrogance and utter stupidity? This perception or perhaps distortion of limitation tied to our O2 concentration needing 21% is simply not the case while surviving under such pressure, as I've got perfectly good records of actively working humans surviving quite nicely on 4% O2, I believe that was starting in at 5 bar absolute. The more the pressure the less O2% requirement and, that's a well proven fact. There's many other examples of significant other life surviving at extremely low O2, that's including several examples surviving within a relatively high CO2 environment and/or of sulphur dioxide, that's not even to mention deep sea life. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-air.htm *Energy; the holy grail of life as we know it:* As for acquiring energy certainly isn't a difficult task, at least not on Venus. On Venus there's more CO2 density and pressure differential per vertical km than you can shake a flaming stick at. That's a whole lot of highly worthwhile vertical kinetic energy on steroids. How many GW would you like? BTW; having a source of relatively thick or dense CO2, unless you're an absolute Borg moron, makes for a rather terrific refrigerant and/or heat-exchanging medium and, obtaining R-256 of thermal isolation from merely conduction mode heat is certainly within our grasp, not to mention the process of CO2--CO/O2 that'll provide all the O2 you could possibly need, as well as the fuel/energy of the CO component, more than enough to power-up any rigid airship and for accommodating those nice lizard folk passengers and crew that are capable of cruising throughout their crystal clear atmospheric ocean of CO2, preferably doing such within their season of nighttime and, of mostly accomplishing this task within the relative calm that's below those relatively cool nighttime clouds. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/energy-options.htm http://guthvenus.tripod.com/co2-windpower-03.htm If there's something that's absolutely negative and so totally unresolvable about sustaining life on Venus, I'd certainly like to hear about it. As so far, there's nothing of physics 101 that's excluding upon what's possible, nor of Darwins' biology 101. Of course, having a good enough surface image that's depicting of what's most likely artificial than not is certainly offering yet another positive consideration, one that's at least as valid as those justifying the likes of the USS LIBERTY fiasco and of those still claiming as to have seen all those WMDs, and just look at what all that's cost us and worse, of where we're headed. Perhaps instead of super-funding an already surplus US cotton cartel with another 18 billion dollars per year subsidy, we might actually be somewhat better off by investing 0.01% of that amount upon improving relationships with our closest and most Earth like planet. At least Venus isn't frozen and otherwise thoroughly irradiated to death like Mars and, Venus literally has if anything way too much energy to burn. If you must insist upon spending those big bucks, there's always a lunar space elevator: This following page remains somewhat confusing, but I believe it's less so than my first space elevator attempt. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm As opposed to extremely long term investing into any Earth based space elevator: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-edwards-se.htm Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS~GASA / Discovery of LIFE on Venus http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
GUTH Venus is way too hot for even Bad Astronomy | Jon G | Policy | 29 | January 2nd 07 03:25 AM |
Sedna, space probes?, colonies? what's next? | TKalbfus | Policy | 265 | July 13th 04 12:00 AM |
Space Calendar - August 28, 2003 | Ron Baalke | History | 0 | August 28th 03 05:32 PM |
Space Calendar - July 24, 2003 | Ron Baalke | History | 0 | July 24th 03 11:26 PM |