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Preliminary results for Comet Tempel 1 from cooperating
teams are beginning to appear. See a summary so far at http://metaresearch.org/solar%20syst...ndings%201.asp. This compares findings with predictions posted two months ago at http://metaresearch.org/solar%20syst...DeepImpact.asp. [These links are to an open, pure-science site with no pop-ups, ads, spam lists, spyware, adware, involuntary downloads of any kind, or cookies (except for posts to its own Message Board, which use a cookie only to remember UserID and Password).] Dave Tholen writes: [tvf]: The Satellite Model for comets, a competitor of the Dirty Snowball model and a corollary of the exploded planet hypothesis (EPH), makes a very specific prediction that the comet nucleus is a solid rocky asteroid. [Tholen]: Solid rocky asteroids do not produce comae and tails, Van Flandern. That simple visual distinction between comets and asteroids has been around for decades. You are aware of the June 14 outburst, are you not? Rocky asteroids don't have those. As a professional astronomer, you are supposed to be familiar with the viable, peer-reviewed, published models still on the scientific table in areas where you claim some expertise. The second link above cites papers covering the history of the Satellite Model (SM) for comets, a corollary of the exploded planet hypothesis (EPH), all the way back to the original publication: "Do comets have satellites?", Icarus 47:480-486 (1981). The EPH/SM model agrees that rocky asteroids do not produce comet comae because comae do not come from the nucleus. They are debris clouds from the original explosion event, trapped inside the gravitational sphere of influence of the comet nucleus. That comae are of this nature is confirmed by the model's past successful predictions: satellites of asteroids, satellites of comets, salt water in meteorites, sodium (derived from salt) in the tails of comets, "roll marks" leading to boulders on asteroids; the time and peak rate of meteor storms and outbursts; explosion signatures for asteroids; strongly spiked energy parameter for new comets; distribution of black material on slowly rotating airless bodies; splitting velocities of comets. See citations at the second link above. Especially, the meteor storm predictions and the "split"-comet separation speeds as a function of solar distance could not have been correctly predicted if the model was wrong because no adjustable parameters or ad hoc helper hypotheses were used as aids. It is not really relevant here, but you should also know, contrary to what you claimed, that asteroids have been known to suddenly flare up and produce comet tails, further blurring the distinction between asteroids and comets. Two asteroid-comet transition objects are known. [See section 3 at http://www.ss.astro.umd.edu/IAU/comm...eport97.html.] The most famous is asteroid 4015 = Comet 107P/Wilson-Harrington. [tvf]: The Dirty Snowball model itself makes no specific prediction (although individual advocates are betting on various possible outcomes), but instead has an accommodation ready for whatever is found. In science, this is known as "shooting an arrow into a target, then painting a bull's eye around the arrow" [Tholen]: Sort of like the EPH predicting satellites of all sizes around Eros, finding none, and then painting the EPH around the boulders found on the surface. Ostensibly due to the unstable nature of some of the orbits around an oddly shaped body. Except that the odd shape had been known for decades, and the instability of some of the orbits almost as long. The original prediction that asteroids would have satellites dates to the first "Asteroids" volume in 1979. It became specific in 1991 when I predicted that spacecraft would find at least one satellite at one of the first three asteroids visited. That was repeated in my 1993 book, "Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets". The prediction was fulfilled by the discovery of Dactyl orbiting Ida in 1993. Many more cases have been found since then. But even those 1991 and 1993 predictions contained the caveat that, for unstable gravity fields or asteroids involved in collisions, satellites would be found as boulders on the surface, accompanied by roll marks to indicate their grazing decay from satellite orbits. Reports of possible secondary occultations during the 1973 Eros-star occultation event led me to be optimistic that Eros had a stable gravity field and satellites still in orbit. But I learned of 1995 and 1996 Scheeres papers showing that the satellite orbits around Eros were unstable because of its elongated shape only a year before the encounter, in 1999. So I amended the prediction accordingly, well before the results were known. The 2000 encounter results were then reported at http://metaresearch.org/solar%20syst...ngeResults.asp, showing that the prediction amended the previous year was correct. Neither you nor any other astronomer accepted my prediction challenge. The only one who even negotiated terms bowed out when I added the caveat about decayed moons on the surface. But the prediction was in place and was correct a year before the February 2000 encounter, when the first boulder and roll mark were found. How does that count as "painting the bull's-eye around the arrow"? Is there anything about my present prediction that Comet Tempel 1 would have a solid, rocky nucleus that you find to be ad hoc or like painting the bull's-eye around the arrow? Or do you give no credit to models you disfavor, regardless of their success at making genuine predictions that other models can't make? -|Tom|- Tom Van Flandern - Washington, DC - see our ad-free, spam-free web site on replacement astronomy research at http://metaresearch.org |
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