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"Chris L Peterson" wrote in message
... My reference to scintillation with respect to visual limiting magnitude was based on the [possible faulty] assumption that scintillation is the primary seeing effect at visual resolutions. My own experience is that stars at my borderline detection level (about mag 6.7) are seen when the sky is steady, but not when there is high scintillation. I concur. Instability in the atmosphere seems almost the equal to some upper threshold on degraded transparency, given a "cloudless" night of good seeing. I wish I could quanitify that a little better, but I can't. My experience simply being that as the seeing degrades, my mag 5.7 NELM "detection threshold" star between eta and zeta UMi becomes only momentarily detectable, in a similar fashion as when the transparency degrades. At some point, either degraded seeing or degraded transparency exceed a threshold and the star becomes invisible, but long before the skies are what I would consider poor for astronomy. Conversely, if that star is visible directly, then the skies are excellent (or very close to "really good"), which I think is the significance of the exercise in detecting stars at the limit. The ultimate limit being defined by the dimmest star an individual can see under the best conditions the local atmosphere can offer. The fact that someone half my age could see to magnitude 6.2 in UMi under the same conditions, is meaningless. It only defines _their_ indicator of good sky conditions. Mine is simply a half magnitude less because of physiology. Thankfully, binoculars and telescopes allow us to see much deeper than our eyes can without aid. :-) -Steve Paul |
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