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In article , "Phillip Helbig (undress to
reply)" writes: But the equation immediately before Eq. (2), F_N = ma^2/a_0, can be rewritten as F_N = ma(a/a_0). The standard expression, of course, is F_N = ma. In the "deep MOND regime", where a is much smaller than a_0, the factor in parentheses is much less than 1. So, the force in this case is the standard force multiplied by a factor much less than 1. In other words, at low acceleration ("deep MOND regime"), the MOND force should be LESS than the standard force. However, this regime corresponds to the outskirts of galaxies, where the observed orbital velocity is much MORE than expected from the standard force law (which is why, if one assumes the standard force law, one is led to dark matter to explain the additional force). OK, answering my own question here. F_N is the NEWTONIAN force. What is confusing is that since the Newtonian force is known (F_N=ma), it is somewhat confusing to write an expression for it which includes a_0, the new constant (units of acceleration) introduced by MOND, and where a is NOT the NEWTONIAN acceleration, but rather the "total" acceleration. Presumably, the interesting thing is the acceleration predicted by MOND, which is "a" above. So, in the "deep MOND regime", we have a = sqrt(a_0*F_N/m). Since F_N = GMm/(r^2), we have a = sqrt(GMa_0)/r. Contrasting this with the Newtonian acceleration, it falls off as 1/r instead of 1/r^2 (in the low-acceleration regime), so the MOND acceleration is of course larger. Since the acceleration in a circular orbit is sqrt(GM/r^2), we get v^4 = GMa_0. In other words, the circular velocity is (in the low-acceleration regime) independent of the radius, leading to the famous flat rotation curves of spiral galaxies. Mond introduces a new constant with the dimensions of acceleration, but spiral galaxies don't have a constant ACCELERATION in the low-acceleration regime, but rather a constant CIRCULAR VELOCITY. |
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