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On Oct 24, 6:32*am, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:43:44 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: }] Painius should (but won't) understand "the Big Bang theory" (Lambda?CDM).. He just won't; doesn't want to, I assume. *"Mother Nature" is "The Supreme God": eternal, infinite and perfect. *She consumes fuel (EXergy); so, virtually , She's "alive". *[ : Certainly not limited to biblical times/places. * * : in a notional sort of way, like a map, not real. ] * *Speaking of God, you belong to tribes/religions of verious sizes.. * *Had you no "tribe", you'd have no "religion"; they are one and the same. *Randomness is naught but ignorance; so, intrinsically , there is no God, *and nature is at once "nothing" ( 4?D, changeless and choiceless ) *and everything ( excluding nothing ). *[ : in reality, despite appearances ] *Humanity labors to breathe, eat, drink and breed. *Nature has hard?wired us this way, it wasn't our doing. *Our "objective" has been fixed by nature, not invented. * *Speaking of "objectives", the one word mantra/question, "Target?", * *clears away horrid/debilitating/random thoughts. * Mass?Energy = Space?Time , they are one and the same. *Gravity is "EXergy", energy that can do work; *net net (all things considered), it's forever being consumed away. * *"Dark Matter" is UNSEEN MASS, "Dark Energy" is EXERGY DEPLETION, * *and the start of the Big Bang is just the cosmic horizon, * *similar to the event horizon of an ideal black hole. *unLike nature, science is finite; it has a horizon, a limit, *to wit: 13.75 giga?years ago and 46.5 * 2 giga?light?years wide. I agree that I don't understand the BB. *I certainly don't understand how anybody in their right mind would even remotely accept that there was a first "time", an initial "time", after which all time and space just sort of "took off". *And "before" which has no meaning. *It's just stupid - royally, unintuitively, and "religiously" stupid. The Big Bang is a creation myth of science. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." Painius There was a time,space energy,and gravity that created the BB. It was Planck time,Planck energy.,and Planck lengths. It was a time before "macro time,macro matter,and no curving of space. yes its religious type thinking to say the BB went poof and all that is came to be. Well I have posted my before the BB theory many times. Best to always keep in mind. "There was never a time when there was nothing." That is the most profound thought humankind can make. TeBet |
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