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On Nov 15, 4:57*pm, Robert Clark wrote:
On Nov 10, 5:17*pm, Dave U. Random anonym...@anonymitaet-im- inter.net wrote: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/08phobosgrunt/ What is it with these Ruskies? Phobos-Grunt was delayed for two years because they couldn't finish it in time and now it still isn't working properly! This is extremely embarrassing for Russia and Poetin and I'm sure some of the scientists will be prosecuted as 'foreign agents with the intent to cause embarrassment to Russia' or something to that effect. *Interesting suggestion in the comments section on that page: Phobos-Grunt Mars probe remains silent in Earth orbit. BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW Posted: November 11, 2011http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/11phobosgrunt/ *The idea would be to use the X-37B currently in orbit to communicate with the satellite. It certainly could at least photograph it. * *Bob Clark That idea was by Bruce Behrhorst, contact info: http://www.facebook.com/people/Bruce...00002307375325 . A question is would the X-37b have sufficient delta-V for the rendezvous? One of the early requirements for the vehicle was for a delta-V of 3,100 m/s, about 10,000 feet per second, though the actual value reached in this vehicle hasn't been released. The X-37b almost certainly has imaging equipment as one of its reported intentions is to provide orbital surveillance on short notice for varying locations. However, it is a question whether this can be used to image satellites. Still, another speculated upon capability for the X-37b was for it to examine other satellites. See for instance this page, near the end, in the section "X-40 Space Maneuver Vehicle (SMV)": Military Spaceplane X-40 Space Maneuver Vehicle Integrated Tech Testbed. http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/launch/msp.htm See these pages for the orbital parameters of Phobos-Grunt and the X-37b: PHOBOS-GRUNT. http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=37872 OTV 2 (USA 226) http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=37375 See this page for the formulas for the delta-V required for orbital changes: ORBITAL MECHANICS. http://www.braeunig.us/space/orbmech.htm#maneuver The formulas are rather complicated. But a simplified scenario suggests it might be doable. First, note that unless the altitude difference is very large, such as between LEO to GEO, then the delta-V needed to change altitude isn't too great, particularly when its still in LEO. See for instance this online Hohmann transfer orbit calculator: Orbital Transfer Calculator. http://www.vrzone.org/space/orbital_transfer.php Plugging in the orbital altitudes for Phobos-Grunt and the X-37b gives a delta-V of 40 m/s. The largest delta-V would probably be due to the plane change. For a simplified case of both circular orbits, the formula is: ÄV = 2Vsin(è/2) , where è is the difference in the angle of inclination, and V is the orbital speed. For a 10 degree angle change and 7,800 m/s orbital speed, this is ÄV = 1,360 m/s. Considering how high was planned to be the delta-V capability this is not out of the question. Note that for the X-37b that almost certainly has the capability to image ground sites, you would think Russian sites such as launch sites should be within its orbital change capability. But then if it has the capability to reach these high latitude sites then it also has the capability to reach the orbital inclinations of satellites such as Phobos-Grunt launched from these sites. Bob Clark |
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