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In article , Cyril Meynier
wrote: le Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:58:31 GMT, Charles Cagle a pensé, ce qui, en soi, l'a déjà classé dans une petite élite. Pour être plus précis, il/elle a pensé que : In reality it doesn't work. Or rather it works quite well as a device used to extract money from taxpayers so as to keep an army of welfare queens in white coats employed so that they can send their kids to college without ever really having provided anything of value for this nation. One could say exactly the same about wind power 30 years ago, about railways in 1820, rocketry in 1950, nuclear (fission) power in 1960, computers in 1940, and so on. Absolute nonsense response. Wind power has been used for a thousand years or more, railways were working in 1820. In 1804, the first steam locomotive, run on rail, was constructed by Richard Trevithick. It was used at Pennydarren Iron Works. Then in*1808 Trevithick constructs a locomotive that can travel about 12 mph. * V-1 and V-2 rockets were killing thousands of Britons in the 1940's, and in December of 1957, Pennsylvania's Shippingport nuclear reactor became the first commercial power plant to generate electricity. So, besides being wrong with respect to the history of certain technologies you have just dishonestly attempted to conflate working technologies with a technology that has never worked. No one has ever built a working nuclear fusion reactor which generates sufficient energy to even reach breakeven (where the energy put in is equal to the energy that emerges). It doesn't work now, it hasn't worked in the past and it isn't going to work in the future using any scheme of thermonuclear fusion. Even the so-called 'thermonuclear' weapons are not 'thermonuclear' in the sense that the particles undergo fusion as a function of their collisional temperature. The basic theories of nuclear fusion are completely wrong and the most primitive axiom of the relative motion of quantum particles coupled with Maxwell's equations prove this without any doubt or error at all. One of the saddest thing of all in modern science was that Teller's technical innovations worked to produce a successful fusion weapon but his ideas about how they work were wrong. This is the world's greatest example of serenditpitous luck. Fusion weapons work but they don't work like the designers think they work. They never have. The problem is that it is nearly impossible to argue with such a level of success. Who the hell isn't going to believe that your theory is correct if the weapon you built works? There are historical parallels. The Chinese had gunpowder for a thousand years and brought its manufacture and technological usage to a high art but a modern chemist would laugh aloud at the Chinese gunpowder guildmaster's explanation of how it all works. We're talking about the fact that physicists have had the explanation of elementary charged particle interactions wrong. That doesn't stop them from building really useful technological devices but that doesn't mean that they actually understand the nature of charge nor what electrons are. It isn't required to build working technology. But when you get to the level of building a device that relies upon the energy yield of nuclear fusion reactions where you want to carefully control and fine tune the rate of energy output then you have to know what is going on at the quantum level. Did you know there's a viable model of how a fusion weapon works which is different from the explanation believed by the weapon designers themselves? I'm sure it never occurred to you that such a thing could be possible. And I'm sure that you would even be unable to listen to the facts about these matters. There's such comfort in numbers because if you're all wrong, well, hell, you can still fade away into the anonymity provided by such a huge crowd of other people who also don't know what the hell they're talking about. Charles Cagle |
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