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![]() Sometimes in sci.astro and related astronomy groups you will see the same insignificant topic post spread throughout many groups. Not just the crank theory posts that will appear everywhere multiple times with often multiple follow ups from themselves. Others do it too. The reason is, although some of you will have known why for a long time, that these groups are archived by Google. Not just Google either. And not just by one site, you can find many sites, sometimes several sites in several different languages, will archive the google groups and usenet postings. Now consider that when it comes to a web search. Consider the following example, which will use a google search. Martin Nicholson has had a long thread about Designed to Fail? for a long time, on and off. A direct thread. However, that isn't the main thing When he has done posts on his ten minute challenges or something about Cassini at Saturn's satellite images or similar and he posts them to many groups his posts will carry a signatured link every time to one of his webpages, sometimes several signatured links. These will include his "astronomical" blog, which in normal consideration is reasonable enough, someone's home page is not a rare signature. But it will also include links to his Designed to Fail? essay on variable stars, or his halls of shame, or his updated "research" pages, or some other specific thing. And anyone who has taken notice knows he posts the same thing to many groups and anyone who has ever looked at any of them will have seen often they are one liners or one sentence pointers to something or other and a link to something on his webpages or blogs, repeated many times in many groups, with extra commentary links in his signature (s). Often with no reply or vote or comment from anyone, but that doesn't matter, that isn't the point. You see, if in this example you become interested in double stars and hear of a yahoo group called binary stars uncensored and go to google search and type that in, then Nicholson's comments about Binary Stars Uncensored and his link usually appears before the real one, and the short summary of text google searches return just below the hit finds his first few carefully chosen words. If you use an exact phrase match his url on the results appears even earlier. And now you know why some people post small posts to many groups repeating the same thing. And that is why whenever he is upset or feels someone has said something on a real, main, targetted group that may be archived, you will find sci.astro and many other groups with a post on it from him, probably also carrying a link to some comment on it on one of his blogs somewhere, or more. And he will do it several times, on several days, because hopefully his blogs and his posts will push the worrying to him posts away from future searches. Or highlight the links to his work. And of course you have to use keywords too. Why do you think he repeats people's names so much in the text and why does Martin Piers Nicholson put people's names directly into subject headings so commonly and prominently? Google is supposed to have some protection against this to stop businesses biasing the searches (so they have to pay for sponsored advertising to get first page hits instead). Now you know why some people do this. Some do it because they are cranks who want to put their pet theory all over usenet. But some use it in a calculated way. Next time you see someone like him do a post about someone, or generally do a post that contains a link to some blog or other about a topic, wherein said post or blog he is complaining about something or someone, if you are a member of many groups see how many times the same post was reported to different groups. Or check the archives now to see. How sometimes he replies to himself in those groups with repeat posts of the same thing with automated response settings, which is very rude, if a person doesn't want to listen to someone, they can use filters or delete unread. Of course that's another reason names have to be in topics and subject headings, for the archived log and index pages for the group. That's why sometimes instead of replies new threads on the same topic have to be started. Therefore, the next time you see someone post to quite a few groups using this method, check it out, and a week later do a google search on something that should sensible pick the topic up. Also when you wonder why some people regularly, for months, reply to the cranks and tell them that they are cranks, their name and posts are getting as much attention by the robots as the cranks are, but if you only pick one of their posts, they seem to be reasonable people telling the cranks not to be silly. This one is possible not as certain, and possibly stretching the concept a little, but there are those on usenet who wonder why so many people reply with the same thing to the repeat postings of the cranks instead of ignoring them or filtering them out. And then you won't have to ask people anymore why they spam their stuff all over sci.astro groups. Designed to Fail? Or Designed to Hijack? |
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