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On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:
Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade. This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s) over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock. The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36 look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/ artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the impressive FLUID ARCH. The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot- foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith) For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256 fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't possibly appreciate. Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words, most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh- based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what seems a bit counter-productive. If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life? Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look worse off than it really is. "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are. - Brad Guth - Why are the supposed smart folks of Usenet so gosh darn deathly afraid of Venus, or even that of Venus L2? What's so terribly wrong with having a 36 look per pixel of a nifty radar obtained image to start off with? -- Brad Guth |
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On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:
Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade. This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s) over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock. The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36 look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/ artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the impressive FLUID ARCH. The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot- foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith) For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256 fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't possibly appreciate. Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words, most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh- based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what seems a bit counter-productive. If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life? Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look worse off than it really is. "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are. - Brad Guth - Seems the ESA Venus Express/VIRTIS mission has either fallen off the edge of Earth or at least out of favor within their very own ESA home webpage. ESA is still not sharing any byte worth of anything as getting released from their robust PFS instrument, of which they claim has been faulty/broken from nearly the very get go. (I rather doubt this is entirely true, because they can't share as to the internal workings of that PFS instrument, in that there's absolutely no technical accounting or any other measure on behalf of those internal mechanics other than going by their word, which simply doesn't make any sense) http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?mi...Express&type=I http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=64 In spite of the Venus EXPRESS having supposedly lost all use of their robust PFS, as representing nearly 90% worth of their mission's science capability, whereas in spite of that handicap or intentional banishment it's still offering darn good though much lower resolution results of the IR mapping: http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=...le=y &start=4 http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=...start=4&size=b Notice how there's never one scientific word as to the specific thermal temperatures of those IR obtained images, but instead a whole lot of careful wordings that manage to divert as much attention as possible away from the matter of fact that Venus has been losing roughly 20.5 w/m2 (256 fold greater than Earth) away from its geothermally toasty surface. Further notice how the all-knowing wizards of Usenet or even those rusemasters of NASA's very own uplink.space.com are entirely without an honest thought, clue or much less having been asking any questions as to why there's still no public information getting shared as to the wide differentials of those surface and atmospheric temperatures of Venus. Even though the remaining IR instruments of ESA's Venus Express are of extremely poor resolution doesn't exclude those kinds of low resolution IR readings from providing a sufficient degree of thermal mapping, as to the best available extent that's possible, and yet we've seen almost nothing of their supposed science in sharing IR specifics of such thermal issues other than IR ratios which can be without a basic reference to a given spectrum of temperature interpreted as to mean damn near anything. Of course from the long shot of Venus L2 is where a modern day radar and IR imaging pair of instruments as of the last decade could have accomplished a whole lot better results, and if from within that nifty and relatively cool halo station-keeping location sending in probes of the rigid airship kind, that which would obviously cruise below those thick acidic clouds and subsequently get those absolutely terrific closeup look-see mappings of the Venus surface down to less than 0.1 meter/pixel, and of visual spectrum imaging down to as tight as a few mm, which technically could have by now been doable. There are still those extremely interesting pixels of previous radar mapping of what looks entirely intelligent and/or artificially rational, as though representing a community of substantial structures and otherwise of extremely interesting natural terrain/geology features (including an active fluid arch and of multiple reservoirs) like none other. For those with an honestly serious mindset of considering all such options, I have had exactly what you're looking for as of nearly the past 8 years, and I also have the other proof positive as to how those in charge have been doing all they can in order to disqualify, exclude or rather banish any such notions that Venus has been technically a viable planet for accommodating intelligent other life. This doesn't require that such be of an intelligent other life as having locally evolved within that newish planetology of such a geothermally forced environment, although technically even that's a remote possibility for those of us residing outside of the mainstream status quo of naysayville's bigots-R-us mindset. -- Brad Guth |
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Thanks again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for having posted another link to this updated page of Venus images. http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Some of the most interesting of AI information can be found within image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of which you folks should apply your own PhotoShop resampling/ enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can not accomplish such enlargements without making whatever image look worse off than it really is. (go figure) "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1" http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif If you still can not find this rational community worth of extremely interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are. Digital photo resampling or enlarging with various pixel interpolation algorithms are not new nor unused by our NIMA and multiple other spy and commercial photo agencies. The sorts of freeware or trialware such as PhotoCleaner, PhotoZoom and CleanerZoomer are just examples that'll perform as well or better than ADOBE PhotoShop, are each sufficiently user friendly and as always allows for user options in order to suit the kinds of results that'll yield the best possible enlargement without introducing weird distortions or artifacts out of thin air(sort of speak). http://www.photocleaner.com PhotoCleaner w/multiple resize algorithms and automatic unsharp http://www.benvista.com/main/content...otozoompro_ 1 http://www.benvista.com/main/content...page=downloads PhotoZoom Pro w/S-Spline XL interpolation algorithm enlarging CleanerZoomer http://www.stratopoint.com/czoomer.htm Of course the digital radar image of 36 looks per pixel is somewhat better to begin with, as nearly 3D worthy and each raw pixel being about as real or as truth worthy of pixel as we're going to get, which sort of makes up for the 225 meter per pixel resolution that's being enlarged for a better look-see at whatever's most likely associated with those raw pixels. http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...-restoration1/ "Red Fox, image from Figure 3 after photoshop unsharp mask, radius = 4.0, 75%, threshold = 3, then another unsharp mask with radius = 2.0, 66%, threshold = 3. This is a about the best I can do with the unsharp mask tool" As you can see for yourself, between ADOBE PhotoShop and Adaptive Richardson-Lucy Iteration there's nothing getting artificially generated via enlarge/resampling and unsharp applications that created weird pixels out of nowhere. As long as the raw pixel patterns were there to behold in the first place, there's nothing that gets software AI or otherwise created weird in the enlarged images that's indifferent to whatever those original pixels represent. Of course with the likes of PhotoShop is where any damn village idiot fool can just as easily force the original image into distorting everything in sight, which only proves that such a result can be accomplished if that's the intended objective. However, most folks within Usenet's anti-think-tank of naysayland should as IggyZiggy says, have that word "obfuscate" tattooed to their forehead, as they quite often intend to live, breathe, eat, and worship that mostly semitic God of obfuscation by using word games, something their Third Reich and the likes of our very own resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) and of his puppeteer Dick Cheney are really good at obfuscating the hell out of most everything. So, when I've asked of others to share and share alike, as to providing their own best effort examples of the image pertaining to Venus that I'd pointed out as of nearly 8 years ago, lo and behold the brown-nosed obfuscation clowns of Usenet's naysayland kicked into full topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment action, whit all of their usual gauntlet of evidence exclusion so as to not rock their mainstream good ship LOLLIPOP status quo that's clearly more semitic faith based than not. We need to take a very close look at Venus, as for giving this extremely nearby planet proper consideration on behalf of other intelligent life that once upon a time having been and by rights may even still be existing/coexisting within that geothermally forced environment, of their having survived within such a newish worth of active planetology that not exactly user friendly to the likes of us naked humans. I'm certainly not speaking of the dumbfounded sorts of naked humans without a clue other than their terrestrial limited faith- based analogy towards everything, but rather of either locally evolved and/or new and improved species as having been imported intelligent life, that's simply utilizing applied physics and obviously good technology that's taking the fullest advantage of their applied physics and local cache of such vast amounts of renewable energy. There's no argument that Venus in most surface locations is nearly hot as hell, however, if you can constructively contribute a little something of image processing, or otherwise on behalf of explaining the sorts of physics and applied technology that'll function within such a thermal dynamic worth of planetology, that'll actually survive within the regular laws of physics (such as the process of the local makings and sustaining ice), is exactly what I'd appreciate and give the fullest of credit for whatever talent or expertise you'd care to share. -- Brad Guth |
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Just because the frail DNA of mere humans haven't walked on the moon
is no good reason as to why those future rad-hard and physically robust robotics of Japan and China can't manage. Perhaps this is best being shared with other Usenet groups: rec.photo.digital, uk.rec.photo.misc, alt.journalism.newspapers, alt.revisionism, sci.geo.satellite-nav, sci.geo.geology, talk.atheism In addition of our getting access to those new and greatly improved images of our moon that's will worth further enlarging, plus future loads of other new and improved science that'll begin telling us what that naked and somewhat salty moon surface has to offer, there's still good old and at times extremely nearby Venus that's looking as though having been lived upon. Thanks again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for having posted another public link to this somewhat updated page of Venus images. http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Some of the most interesting of AI pixel worthy information can be found within image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of which you folks should apply your own PhotoShop resampling/enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can not accomplish such enlargements without making whatever image look worse off than it really is. (go figure) "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1" http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif If you still can not find this rational community worth of extremely interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are. Usually this only happens with the sorts of pretend atheists that are forever stuck or sequestered within their own faith-based naysay mode, regardless of whatever physics or the best available science has to offer. Digital photo resampling or enlarging with various pixel interpolation algorithms are not new nor unused by our NIMA and multiple other spy and commercial photo agencies. The sorts of freeware or trialware such as PhotoCleaner, PhotoZoom and CleanerZoomer are just examples that'll perform as well or better than ADOBE PhotoShop, are each sufficiently user friendly and as always allows for user options in order to suit the kinds of results that'll yield the best possible enlargement without introducing weird distortions or artifacts out of thin air(sort of speak). http://www.photocleaner.com PhotoCleaner w/multiple resize algorithms and automatic unsharp http://www.benvista.com/main/content...otozoompro_ 1 http://www.benvista.com/main/content...page=downloads PhotoZoom Pro w/S-Spline XL interpolation algorithm enlarging CleanerZoomer http://www.stratopoint.com/czoomer.htm Of course the digital radar image of 36 looks per pixel is somewhat better to begin with, as nearly 3D worthy and each raw pixel being about as real or as truth worthy of pixel as we're going to get, which sort of makes up for the 225 meter per pixel resolution that's being enlarged for a better look-see at whatever's most likely associated with those raw pixels. http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...-restoration1/ "Red Fox, image from Figure 3 after photoshop unsharp mask, radius = 4.0, 75%, threshold = 3, then another unsharp mask with radius = 2.0, 66%, threshold = 3. This is a about the best I can do with the unsharp mask tool" As you can see for yourself, between ADOBE PhotoShop and Adaptive Richardson-Lucy Iteration there's nothing getting artificially generated via enlarge/resampling and unsharp applications that created weird pixels out of nowhere. As long as the raw pixel patterns were there to behold in the first place, there's nothing that gets software AI or otherwise created weird in the enlarged images that's indifferent to whatever those original pixels represent. Of course with the likes of PhotoShop is where any damn village idiot fool can just as easily force the original image into distorting everything in sight, which only proves that such a result can be accomplished if that's the intended objective. However, most folks within Usenet's anti-think-tank of naysayland should as IggyZiggy says, have that word "obfuscate" tattooed to their forehead, as they quite often intend to live, breathe, eat, and worship that mostly semitic God of obfuscation by using word games, something their Third Reich and the likes of our very own resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) and of his puppeteer Dick Cheney are really good at obfuscating the hell out of most everything. So, when I've asked of others to share and share alike, as to providing their own best effort examples of the image pertaining to Venus that I'd pointed out as of nearly 8 years ago, lo and behold the brown-nosed obfuscation clowns of Usenet's naysayland kicked into full topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment action, whit all of their usual gauntlet of evidence exclusion so as to not rock their mainstream good ship LOLLIPOP status quo that's clearly more semitic faith based than not. We need to take a very close look at Venus, as for giving this extremely nearby planet proper consideration on behalf of other intelligent life that once upon a time having been and by rights may even still be existing/coexisting within that geothermally forced environment, of their having survived within such a newish worth of active planetology that not exactly user friendly to the likes of us naked humans. I'm certainly not speaking of the dumbfounded sorts of naked humans without a clue other than their terrestrial limited faith- based analogy towards everything, but rather of either locally evolved and/or new and improved species as having been imported intelligent life, that's simply utilizing applied physics and obviously good technology that's taking the fullest advantage of their applied physics and local cache of such vast amounts of renewable energy. There's no argument that Venus in most surface locations is nearly hot as hell, however, if you can constructively contribute a little something of image processing, or otherwise on behalf of explaining the sorts of physics and applied technology that'll function within such a thermal dynamic worth of planetology, that'll actually survive within the regular laws of physics (such as the process of the local makings and sustaining ice), is exactly what I'd appreciate and give the fullest of credit for whatever talent or expertise you'd care to share. -- Brad Guth |
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Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
that's getting itself geothermally forced from the bottom up, although having a POOF City as our interplanetary depot/gateway at Venus L2 is more than a touch on the cool side. However, if we can't even manage a mostly robotic Clarke Station within our moon's interactive L1, much less of anything moon tethered, then even the extremely nearby worth of the halo orbital energy efficient and much lower gamma radiation location of our utilizing Venus L2 is never going to happen. From what's officially offered to us as purely in-house or via minionship endorsed evidence, I still do not believe that we've returned safely from having walked on that moon, as there's just way too many easy enough methods of proof-positive that could and should have been employed, that would have 100+% nailed that question as an easily replicated matter of fact, as well as easily accommodated via computer simulated orbital 3D interactive physics, that is if we in fact had ever down-range soft landed and having walked on that dusty moon 6 times w/o so much as a DNA scratch. So, we'll need that new and improved fleet of Barack Obama shuttles, along with those fully reusable LRBs, that which at most becomes a 50/50 kind of public/private investment, and that's going to happen w/ o our infamous NASA because, like so much of our old guard cold-war government that's intent upon global energy domination, it seems they and of their semitic puppeteers simply can not be trusted with our hard earned loot or our private parts. So, it's past due for a fresh start, that is if we can somehow manage to avoid WWIII. Ponder your way through this one: A few of us outsiders have been and/or become sufficiently correct about our naked moon that seems somewhat hollow or at least light headed (as possibly having a mostly sodium core), in that much of our terrestrial physics and replicated science that relates to those spendy fly-by-rocket Apollo missions, and about our reactive/ anticathode moon that's so physically dark, that simply doesn't add up according to that holy grail of our NASA/Apollo Old Testament. If we'd landed upon and collectively (US+USSR) having left 171 tonnes of our mostly metallic crap on that moon, much of it physically sizable or having become unavoidably impact scattered over a km+ radius (unless that surface debris and dust at impact was simply too damn thick), whereas you'd think most any GB-SAR obtained image is unavoidably going to look in places as somewhat like a seriously lit up Christmas tree parked in the center of an open pit coal mine. I believe that somewhat old radar imaging resolution via Arecibo is actually worthy of 20 meters/pixel, and having so much as an empty beer can within any one of those 20 by 20 meter pixels is in fact going to light up that given GB-SAR pixel by pixel observation quite nicely, especially when all of that crystal dry cosmic debris as moon dust that's surrounding that empty beer can is hardly anything but radar signal reflective. Sadly, not even God or those of his/her minion wizards can help the likes of our MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA's Usenet cesspool of infowar/infomercial spewing spooks and moles, or so many brown-nosed others of their pretend atheist kind. Of course otherwise those terrestrial smart brown-nosed folks of the all-knowing mainstream status quo or bust (aka Skull and Bones semitic Third Reich) could have always used any one of those true to life virtual simulations via any number of public owned supercomputers in order to easily prove myself wrong, though they've all had nearly 8 years and counting with less than zero/zilch worth of favorable results so far. I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1. BTW, remote PC/mouse tampering is a federal offence (pretty hard to miss the per cession "Error Console" reporting and such loss of mouse/ cursor control as so often happening), and yet in spite of this mainstream of damage-control gauntlet, I've just posted another topic "To Tell the Truth" for all the warm and fuzzy enjoyment of those diehard naysayers and brown-nosed minions of the mainstream status quo, not unlike most others within Usenet. - Brad Guth On Nov 24, 11:24 am, BradGuth wrote: Usenet: rec.photo.digital Thanks again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for having posted another link to this updated page ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Some of the most interesting of AI information can be found within image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus', of which you folks should apply your own PhotoShop resampling/ enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can not accomplish such enlargements without making whatever image look worse off than it really is. (go figure) "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif If you still can not find this rational community worth of extremely interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are. Digital photo resampling or enlarging with various pixel interpolation algorithms are not new nor unused by our NIMA and multiple other spy and commercial photo agencies. The sorts of freeware or trialware such as PhotoCleaner, PhotoZoom and CleanerZoomer are just examples that'll perform as well or better than ADOBE PhotoShop, are each sufficiently user friendly and as always allows for user options in order to suit the kinds of results that'll yield the best possible enlargement without introducing weird distortions or artifacts out of thin air(sort of speak). http://www.photocleaner.com PhotoCleaner w/multiple resize algorithms and automatic unsharp http://www.benvista.com/main/content...page=downloads PhotoZoom Pro w/S-Spline XL interpolation algorithm enlarging CleanerZoomerhttp://www.stratopoint.com/czoomer.htm Of course the digital radar image of 36 looks per pixel is somewhat better to begin with, as nearly 3D worthy and each raw pixel being about as real or as truth worthy of pixel as we're going to get, which sort of makes up for the 225 meter per pixel resolution that's being enlarged for a better look-see at whatever's most likely associated with those raw pixels. http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...-restoration1/ "Red Fox, image from Figure 3 after photoshop unsharp mask, radius = 4.0, 75%, threshold = 3, then another unsharp mask with radius = 2.0, 66%, threshold = 3. This is a about the best I can do with the unsharp mask tool" As you can see for yourself, between ADOBE PhotoShop and Adaptive Richardson-Lucy Iteration there's nothing getting artificially generated via enlarge/resampling and unsharp applications that created weird pixels out of nowhere. As long as the raw pixel patterns were there to behold in the first place, there's nothing that gets software AI or otherwise created weird in the enlarged images that's indifferent to whatever those original pixels represent. Of course with the likes of PhotoShop is where any damn village idiot fool can just as easily force the original image into distorting everything in sight, which only proves that such a result can be accomplished if that's the intended objective. However, most folks within Usenet's anti-think-tank of naysayland should as IggyZiggy says, have that word "obfuscate" tattooed to their forehead, as they quite often intend to live, breathe, eat, and worship that mostly semitic God of obfuscation by using word games, something their Third Reich and the likes of our very own resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) and of his puppeteer Dick Cheney are really good at obfuscating the hell out of most everything. So, when I've asked of others to share and share alike, as to providing their own best effort examples of the image pertaining toVenusthat I'd pointed out as of nearly 8 years ago, lo and behold the brown-nosed obfuscation clowns of Usenet's naysayland kicked into full topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment action, whit all of their usual gauntlet of evidence exclusion so as to not rock their mainstream good ship LOLLIPOP status quo that's clearly more semitic faith based than not. We need to take a very close look atVenus, as for giving this extremely nearby planet proper consideration on behalf of other intelligent life that once upon a time having been and by rights may even still be existing/coexisting within that geothermally forced environment, of their having survived within such a newish worth of active planetology that not exactly user friendly to the likes of us naked humans. I'm certainly not speaking of the dumbfounded sorts of naked humans without a clue other than their terrestrial limited faith- based analogy towards everything, but rather of either locally evolved and/or new and improved species as having been imported intelligent life, that's simply utilizing applied physics and obviously good technology that's taking the fullest advantage of their applied physics and local cache of such vast amounts of renewable energy. There's no argument thatVenusin most surface locations is nearly hot as hell, however, if you can constructively contribute a little something of image processing, or otherwise on behalf of explaining the sorts of physics and applied technology that'll function within such a thermal dynamic worth of planetology, that'll actually survive within the regular laws of physics (such as the process of the local makings and sustaining ice), is exactly what I'd appreciate and give the fullest of credit for whatever talent or expertise you'd care to share. -- Brad Guth |
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On Dec 4, 11:48 am, Saul Levy wrote:
Your title just shows that you aren't, Brad. And the content is just DRIVEL! I see that you're using frootbat's scorecard! lol Saul Levy My "title"? I aren't what? And you are posting this off-topic infowar crapolla of yours from which failsafe off-world location? We take it that you have absolutely nothing pertaining to our moon, Venus or even on behalf of Earth to offer. Or did I miss a little something? - Brad Guth |
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On Dec 4, 2:51 pm, nightbat wrote:
nightbat wrote Saul Levy wrote: Silly Desert Saul Your title just shows that you aren't, Brad. And the content is just DRIVEL! I see that you're using frootbat's scorecard! lol Saul Levy nightbat Stop it Saul, now you're upsetting profound science posters with more of your catch up drivel and mal accusations, so unbecoming of a good researcher. Science Officers are too busy to baby-sit and hold your hand just tell the nursing home attendants you need attending. That desert air must be drying out your brain oh doubting one, oh mercy! Coffeeboys a fresh cup of hot coffee for our Saul, heaven knows he needs one. Saul Levy thinks the regular laws of physics are "DRIVEL" worthy, that is unless they are fully conditional in order to suit his brown--nosed kind of NASA/Apollo "DRIVEL". Saul Levy doesn't even believe in SAR obtained images, especially if they are of the 36 look per pixel kind. Apparently the more SAR looks per pixel the less truth worthy such pixels become, and only worse yet if getting taken at 43 degrees instead of using a 2D limited plan view. - Brad Guth |
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On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:02:55PM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 4, 11:48 am, Saul Levy wrote: Your title just shows that you aren't, Brad. And the content is just DRIVEL! I see that you're using frootbat's scorecard! lol Saul Levy My "title"? I aren't what? And you are posting this off-topic infowar crapolla of yours from which failsafe off-world location? We take it that you have absolutely nothing pertaining to our moon, Venus or even on behalf of Earth to offer. Or did I miss a little something? Yes. You forgot to take a class in basic civility, and they won't even consider you for the advanced class in civics as a result. Buh-bye. Regards, Steve -- ( I've got to hold my train of thought, here, and not get off on some sick, twisted tangent that will blow any hope of a book deal with a publisher that doesn't sell off of the back of a pickup truck in the sleazy part of town ) |
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On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet, [snip] I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1. Sorry, Brad. You lose no matter what the score may appear to be. Regards, Steve -- ( I've got to hold my train of thought, here, and not get off on some sick, twisted tangent that will blow any hope of a book deal with a publisher that doesn't sell off of the back of a pickup truck in the sleazy part of town ) |
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On Dec 5, 2:32 pm, "Steve wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:02:55PM -0800, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 4, 11:48 am, Saul Levy wrote: Your title just shows that you aren't, Brad. And the content is just DRIVEL! I see that you're using frootbat's scorecard! lol Saul Levy My "title"? I aren't what? And you are posting this off-topic infowar crapolla of yours from which failsafe off-world location? We take it that you have absolutely nothing pertaining to our moon, Venus or even on behalf of Earth to offer. Or did I miss a little something? Yes. You forgot to take a class in basic civility, and they won't even consider you for the advanced class in civics as a result. Buh-bye. Regards, Steve If that's what makes you a happy though snookered and fully dumbfounded camper. - Brad Guth |
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