Planetary Heat Losses / Brad Guth

On Aug 14, 10:32 am, wrote:
So then is it magnetism?
Is gravity magnetism?
And the answer is yes and no.
Everything has a bit of magnetism. They have levitated frogs in a
magnetic field, but these waves between planets and the sun have a
longer wavelength.
So they are just the same waves, on different wavelengths and
different frequencies.
When you have a magnet, magnetism is associated with waves generated
by metals.
In association with the wavelengths from metallic elements which are
magnetic.
And so all that is is that those frequencies and wavelengths, seem to
get through the background wavelength soup with less resistance. The
soup of dark energy waves that permeate space. So they appear
stronger. Like they have their own channels.
So why then does hydrogen collect with hydrogen to make Jupiter?
Well part of that is because like elements, give off like dark energy
waves, so those waves will cancel out, creating a low pressure area,
and they are attracted to each other. It looks like gravity, and we
call it gravity, but we also say it is like static charge. And it is
that too, when it is in close proximity. Although it is just the same
waves.

And so you say well maybe that is all that gravity is then. Is just a
form of magnetism.
And then once again I must remind you that Newton died, and GR states,
that that is not the case. The universe is expanding, and the reason
you do not fly off the earth, is not just because your waves are
canceling with the waves of the earth, it is actually pressing up
against your feet, because it is expanding into hyperspace, just as
you are, and the space between you and it, is shrinking.
Not the quantum foam, that is expanding. Absolute space-time, is the
foam, but space, 3D space, that space between two expanding balloons
in the void, it shrinks between them relatively speaking as the
balloons expand, and the balloons give off waves, to keep them apart,
and that balances out the system.

The mysterious plastic celt?

I would hazard a guess that the center of balance is such and the
shape of the thing in the way it leans is such, that it favors one
direction of spin and if you spin it in the opposite direction, it is
like spinning it up hill.
So if you spin it one way, you are spinning it in so that it is like
spinning it with a slightly down hill direction, because of the way it
is shaped and the pitch and roll. Spin it the other way, and the
instability arises and it stores that momentum, and then releases that
momentum going back downhill slightly.
And it is not necessarily just counterclockwise or clockwise, it
depends on how you make it, which direction it will prefer.
Friction also plays a part in it but my guess is that it is like
spiraling it uphill a bit, which causes it to reverse direction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattleback

On Aug 14, 11:56 am, wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:32 am, wrote:



So then is it magnetism?
Is gravity magnetism?
And the answer is yes and no.
Everything has a bit of magnetism. They have levitated frogs in a
magnetic field, but these waves between planets and the sun have a
longer wavelength.
So they are just the same waves, on different wavelengths and
different frequencies.
When you have a magnet, magnetism is associated with waves generated
by metals.
In association with the wavelengths from metallic elements which are
magnetic.
And so all that is is that those frequencies and wavelengths, seem to
get through the background wavelength soup with less resistance. The
soup of dark energy waves that permeate space. So they appear
stronger. Like they have their own channels.
So why then does hydrogen collect with hydrogen to make Jupiter?
Well part of that is because like elements, give off like dark energy
waves, so those waves will cancel out, creating a low pressure area,
and they are attracted to each other. It looks like gravity, and we
call it gravity, but we also say it is like static charge. And it is
that too, when it is in close proximity. Although it is just the same
waves.

And so you say well maybe that is all that gravity is then. Is just a
form of magnetism.
And then once again I must remind you that Newton died, and GR states,
that that is not the case. The universe is expanding, and the reason
you do not fly off the earth, is not just because your waves are
canceling with the waves of the earth, it is actually pressing up
against your feet, because it is expanding into hyperspace, just as
you are, and the space between you and it, is shrinking.
Not the quantum foam, that is expanding. Absolute space-time, is the
foam, but space, 3D space, that space between two expanding balloons
in the void, it shrinks between them relatively speaking as the
balloons expand, and the balloons give off waves, to keep them apart,
and that balances out the system.

The mysterious plastic celt?

I would hazard a guess that the center of balance is such and the
shape of the thing in the way it leans is such, that it favors one
direction of spin and if you spin it in the opposite direction, it is
like spinning it up hill.
So if you spin it one way, you are spinning it in so that it is like
spinning it with a slightly down hill direction, because of the way it
is shaped and the pitch and roll. Spin it the other way, and the
instability arises and it stores that momentum, and then releases that
momentum going back downhill slightly.
And it is not necessarily just counterclockwise or clockwise, it
depends on how you make it, which direction it will prefer.
Friction also plays a part in it but my guess is that it is like
spiraling it uphill a bit, which causes it to reverse direction.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattleback

Its simple really.
The momentum from spinning is transferred to rocking motion, and then
back to spinning.
The shape of the bottom, makes it like a spiral, that prefers that
direction affecting the center of balance.
Just rock it, and that motion causes it to spin, because of the shape
of the bottom.
Do it in slow motion in your head...
Tip it and imagine the surface contact along that s line curve keel.
Follow the point of contact, and the weight shifts, the thing spins.
In slow motion, you tip it, and as the end comes down it spins because
friction wants it to come down in a straight line and so the ass end
swings to keep that point of contact line, a straight transference
from the rocking down direction.
Spin it in the opposite direct, the opposite happens. It starts to
rock.
Put it in a bowl of water.
What happens?
Take two pins, and pin it in the center of balance on both sides
grease the points of contact and spin it vertically, what happens?
Nothing. It spins normally.

The likes of Darrell Lakin is more correct than being given credit,
and even weird notions by our robo-posting rick_so seems worthy of
further consideration. Though even if Einstein were still alive and
suggesting upon similar notions, he too would be summarily stalked and
systematically bashed into total banishment by the mainstream status
quo swarm, if need be Usenet traumatised to death by the faith-based
(pretend atheist) mindset of his own kind that's in charge of our
private parts.

As most of us should know, due to the horrific amount of mass and
highly compressed reserves of core energy involved, it takes
considerable time for a white dwarf to eventually if ever emerge as a
brown dwarf, and obviously longer yet for such becoming a black
dwarf. Because of the nearby Sirius A feeding it's binary partner is
perhaps why Sirius B is one of those white dwarfs that's going to take
next to forever becoming a brown dwarf, that is unless those two items
suddenly merge into becoming one mother of a nasty supernova, whereas
then all bets are off.

According to the orbiting Caltech SIRTF/Spitzer IR observatory,
there's actually quite a large population of red and brown dwarf stars
adding to the previously known tally of known stars, thus potentially
a substantial population of much older solar systems having existed,
and a few of those must still exist for having accommodated those more
iron core robust planets. For some odd reason there's not exactly any
special public outreach that's actively sharing in this kind of new
and improved science, in much the same way as for the ESA Hipparcos
data has been ignored or otherwise extensively banished.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitzer_Space_Telescope
http://gallery.spitzer.caltech.edu/I...nomical_Images

Perhaps once Hubble gets those badly needed repairs and CCD upgrades,
it too will enable the likes of brown dwarf solar systems to get
detected, although the superior SIRTF/Spitzer platform should
eventually catalog most of those browns as well as a few of the larger
black dwarf solar systems, some of which should be within our Milky
Way. Of interstellar rogue planets in the 4+X Jupiter class should
also become visible to the Spitzer eye, whereas such large rogue
planets might also host the likes of icy moons the size and mass of
Earth.
- Brad Guth

On Aug 12, 11:46 pm, Matt Giwer
wrote:
Alfred Montestruc wrote:
On Aug 10, 1:05 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Venus has been getting rid of roughly 20.5 w/m2, and otherwise from
our best available terrestrial science is suggesting that's roughly
256 fold greater than the core heat loss of Earth. Therefore, Venus
is a relatively newish planet,

That does not follow at all.

That is because Guth has no idea what the words memorized mean.

And your expertise is sharing by way of telling us exactly what about
planetary heat loss ?????
- Brad Guth

On Aug 14, 4:16 am, wrote:
On Aug 14, 11:56 am, wrote:





On Aug 14, 10:32 am, wrote:

So then is it magnetism?
Is gravity magnetism?
And the answer is yes and no.
Everything has a bit of magnetism. They have levitated frogs in a
magnetic field, but these waves between planets and the sun have a
longer wavelength.
So they are just the same waves, on different wavelengths and
different frequencies.
When you have a magnet, magnetism is associated with waves generated
by metals.
In association with the wavelengths from metallic elements which are
magnetic.
And so all that is is that those frequencies and wavelengths, seem to
get through the background wavelength soup with less resistance. The
soup of dark energy waves that permeate space. So they appear
stronger. Like they have their own channels.
So why then does hydrogen collect with hydrogen to make Jupiter?
Well part of that is because like elements, give off like dark energy
waves, so those waves will cancel out, creating a low pressure area,
and they are attracted to each other. It looks like gravity, and we
call it gravity, but we also say it is like static charge. And it is
that too, when it is in close proximity. Although it is just the same
waves.

And so you say well maybe that is all that gravity is then. Is just a
form of magnetism.
And then once again I must remind you that Newton died, and GR states,
that that is not the case. The universe is expanding, and the reason
you do not fly off the earth, is not just because your waves are
canceling with the waves of the earth, it is actually pressing up
against your feet, because it is expanding into hyperspace, just as
you are, and the space between you and it, is shrinking.
Not the quantum foam, that is expanding. Absolute space-time, is the
foam, but space, 3D space, that space between two expanding balloons
in the void, it shrinks between them relatively speaking as the
balloons expand, and the balloons give off waves, to keep them apart,
and that balances out the system.

The mysterious plastic celt?

I would hazard a guess that the center of balance is such and the
shape of the thing in the way it leans is such, that it favors one
direction of spin and if you spin it in the opposite direction, it is
like spinning it up hill.
So if you spin it one way, you are spinning it in so that it is like
spinning it with a slightly down hill direction, because of the way it
is shaped and the pitch and roll. Spin it the other way, and the
instability arises and it stores that momentum, and then releases that
momentum going back downhill slightly.
And it is not necessarily just counterclockwise or clockwise, it
depends on how you make it, which direction it will prefer.
Friction also plays a part in it but my guess is that it is like
spiraling it uphill a bit, which causes it to reverse direction.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattleback

Its simple really.
The momentum from spinning is transferred to rocking motion, and then
back to spinning.
The shape of the bottom, makes it like a spiral, that prefers that
direction affecting the center of balance.
Just rock it, and that motion causes it to spin, because of the shape
of the bottom.
Do it in slow motion in your head...
Tip it and imagine the surface contact along that s line curve keel.
Follow the point of contact, and the weight shifts, the thing spins.
In slow motion, you tip it, and as the end comes down it spins because
friction wants it to come down in a straight line and so the ass end
swings to keep that point of contact line, a straight transference
from the rocking down direction.
Spin it in the opposite direct, the opposite happens. It starts to
rock.
Put it in a bowl of water.
What happens?
Take two pins, and pin it in the center of balance on both sides
grease the points of contact and spin it vertically, what happens?
Nothing. It spins normally.- Hide quoted text -

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This robo-posting of yours means exactly what?
- Brad Guth

= GOOGLE/NOVA MI5

Instead of folks of such all-knowing expertise constructively
assisting or otherwise polishing a given topic, such as this one or
the one of Venus being very much alive and kicking as though
representing a relatively newish planet, as opposed to a mostly CO2
subfrozen to death Mars, or those other nifty topics of my LSE-CM/ISS
and VL2 POOF City, whereas instead there has been yet another ongoing
mainstream status quo gauntlet of damage-control tactical efforts for
the rest of us to deal with. We're seeing an extra nasty butt load of
their indirect topic/author naysayism on steroids, of entire Usenet
group index page jamming that's obviously orchestrated and/or fully
supported by way of those MI5/MIB spooks/moles in charge of Usenet
that has allowed such brown-nose clown like tactics to flourish.

Wow! our very own spook/wizard (aka Yid rusemaster) "MI5Vic" is
certainly as of lately going a little extra usenet postal, none the
less via robo posting into wherever I'm having the most fun.

Obviously our lord all-knowing GOOGLE/NOVA (aka MI5/NSA/CIA/FBI)
master knows exactly of who and of where this silly Usenet robo
jamming via "MI5Vic" has been coming from, and obviously those in
charge of our usenet private parts (mostly those pesky Yids) like what
they see.

Obviously when and if they manage to put a stop to "MI5Vic" proves
that every byte of Usenet text, code or spermware/****ware is fully
tracable and thus capable of getting terminated and/or intentionally
allowed to exist, whereas otherwise their precious Usenet would be
going down the tubes hourly.
- Brad Guth

Besides something nuclear going on, what's keeping the core and
subsequently the surface of a given planet like Earth so extra active
and getting warmer by the day?

Like Jupiter, does pressure alone give the necessary method of
sustaining a core at a given geothermal sustainable status?

What's the gravity or perhaps the vacuum at the center of Earth?

In other words, without an active and extremely fluid core, and
especially if without benefit of such a massive and nearby moon, why
wouldn't this planet of ours become that of a mostly monoseason and
somewhat icy environment?

It seems Mars is not only worse off than icy, as likely a planetology
that's dead to the core, but also having once been a mostly freshwater
environment (Mars w/o salt), and otherwise seemingly older than
Earth. What gives?

Venus is still very much alive and kicking from the inside out, and w/
o moon none the less, as it's losing geothermal energy at roughly 256
fold greater than Earth. What gives?
- Brad Guth

Good grief, what another pathetic infomercial old joke, with our warm
and fuzzy NASA in full infomercial media damage-control, once again
via hype diverting us away from the truth by simply pretending at
their doing a Venus mission, and with such old file copy tactics none
the less. However, unlike our moon, at least Venus is technically
doable from the toasty surface on up into those icy cool though acidic
nighttime clouds.

Up, Up and Away -- To Venus (aka: on the dirt cheap)
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...-20070827.html
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/1...-07-browse.jpg

"This was one of the surprises of the Vega balloon mission the Soviet
Union flew more than two decades ago," Baines said. "Enormous gravity
waves appear to rise up more than 30 miles into the upper atmosphere,
causing unexpected depositions of energy generated at the surface and
producing strong vertical movements of air. We want to ride these
waves, measuring their effect on Venus' bizarre high-speed winds."

"Enormous gravity waves" ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave
"In fluid dynamics, gravity waves are waves generated in a fluid
medium or at the interface between two mediums (e.g. the atmosphere or
ocean) which has the restoring force of gravity or buoyancy."

But otherwise, no kidding folks, because of the newish planetology
with all that CO2 as saturated with S8, being so much hotter near that
grothermally active surface, is clearly why there's such a terrific
vertical thermal differential and subsequent velocity, as well as
downright nifty buoyancy to that robust atmosphere.

Instead of going with that silly balloon, a composite rigid airship
would be far better and longer lasting, as well as capable of cruising
extensively to within a few km of that toasty deck.

"It's about the same size as our planet, but the surface is about 900
degrees Fahrenheit, and we want to find out why."

Much like good old proto-Earth, in places it's clearly much hotter
than in other places.
(think: newish planetology)
(think: much less old than Earth)
Think outside the mainstream status quo box, because there's
sufficient proof of intelligent other life existing/coexisting on
Venus. There's also insufficient proof that either Venus or Earth fit
within the popular mold of our solar system, and quite possibly either
of us were not originally associated within this solar system because,
it's becoming better understood that rogue planets do exist,
especially those of good volume and mass as having Earth like moons
that survived the demise of their original sun.

BTW, the extremely mountainous terrain of Venus suggest that it once
upon a time had a fairly substantial moon, perhaps exactly like that
moon of ours, as perhaps being the primary reason as to why Venus
remained so extra geothermal from the inside out. These days, Venus
is cooling off at roughly 20.5 w/m2 (in spite of that insulative
atmosphere, it's losing an impressive 256 fold greater thermal energy
than what Earth is losing).

http://ees.elsevier.com/jasr/
"Advances in Space Research is the Official Journal of the Committee
on Space Research (COSPAR), a Scientific Committee of the
International Council of Scientific Unions (ICSU)" is nothing but
another insider journal dump, of self promoting e-published hype at
taxpayers expense, on just about anything you'd care to find. Peer
reviewed, my ass, as only that which doesn't rock thy good ship
LOLLIPOP is allowed to stick. Their peer review simply means
revisionism of any kind is forbidden, and nothing gets interconnected,
meaning that each research topic has to be a *stand alone* or all
inclusive item without ties or links to other research (aka: no dot
connecting allowed).
- Brad Guth