after the next accident...

Manned space will likely be gutted from NASA.

That leaves pads 39 A & B with no futher use.

I think they should be made into nice permanent exhibits.

Return 39B to the appearance of the apollo era, and stack a full model
of a saturn 5 in launch configuration. Build large plexiglass bubble
over entire structure, and do the same for the other pad stacking a
left over tank, solids less ful and enterprise.

both vehicles can be left straing to go somewhere

Open both pads for tours, something thats never been available to the
general public. Turn the VAB into a museum too, and while there at it
build a memorial to Apoolo one at the pad and return the capsule to its
post fire condition and exhibit it in a small proper way.

this would help the local economy thru tourism,.

the government should offere big bucks for other private companies
space operations

On 29 Jun 2006 10:01:08 -0700, "Bob Haller" wrote:

Manned space will likely be gutted from NASA.

That leaves pads 39 A & B with no futher use.

I think they should be made into nice permanent exhibits.

Return 39B to the appearance of the apollo era, and stack a full model
of a saturn 5 in launch configuration. Build large plexiglass bubble
over entire structure, and do the same for the other pad stacking a
left over tank, solids less ful and enterprise.

both vehicles can be left straing to go somewhere

Open both pads for tours, something thats never been available to the
general public. Turn the VAB into a museum too, and while there at it
build a memorial to Apoolo one at the pad and return the capsule to its
post fire condition and exhibit it in a small proper way.

this would help the local economy thru tourism,.

the government should offere big bucks for other private companies
space operations

that would make a nice exhibit, but let's hope it doesn't happen right
away.

wrote:
PowerPost2000 wrote:

Haller chicken little nonsense snipped

that would make a nice exhibit, but let's hope it doesn't happen right
away.

Please don't feed Bob. He's killfiled around here for a reason by
nearly everyone. For the last 7+ years this is all he does is whine and
cry about the shuttle. Before Columbia he would whine that each and
every mission was going to be the one to blow up. He's like an insane
man at your local airport screaming at you to not get on a plane
because this'll be the *one* to crash for *sure*! Eventually when the
shuttle is retired, he'll just latch onto CEV or Dreamchaser or
whatever else replaces it. When one of those vehicles suffers a
catastrophic accident, he'll cry about how he was the only one who knew
all along that it was going to happen.
-Mike

Bob -

I swear son, if you had one tenth of the concern for the crews and
their families that you claim to, you would tone down the rhetoric just
before the launch. I am the first to admit that there is no . . . none
at all . . . scientific basis for my statement. Like many of yours,
it's an emotional statement. But crimeny, listen to yourself, you are
sounding ghoulish.

Just give it a partial break until after the launch, and then you can,
if you want, in accordance with your right of free speech, ramp it
right back up.

May God speed the crew of Discovery. To you and all the others on the
group, have a good evening.

John

On 29 Jun 2006 16:25:21 -0700, wrote:


He's like an insane
man at your local airport screaming at you to not get on a plane
because this'll be the *one* to crash for *sure*! Eventually when the
shuttle is retired, he'll just latch onto CEV or Dreamchaser or
whatever else replaces it. When one of those vehicles suffers a
catastrophic accident, he'll cry about how he was the only one who knew
all along that it was going to happen.


So he's really a modern pop culture "psychic", the kind who get feature spots on
Coast To Coast AM. He should at least be making a living at this, he just needs
to reach an audience that actually wants to hear him. And nothing builds up a
fan base like a sandwich board & cardboard megaphone.

My concerns are for the CREW and more impoortandly the familys they may
well leave behind...

Overriding the engineers, with that management hat, got us 7 dead
astronauts and one lost vehicle.

Awhile ago someone posted its not like they are ignoring the engineers
none have quit, and neither have any astronauts.

So engineer stands up for what he believes and is ignored...

Just one question if we are depending on atlantis for a rescue mission
about a month from now, how does atlantis fly with a know waterlogged
tank?

schedule again driving flying, cause of both accidents and 14 dead
crew.

I feel like I am at a accident scenne just before it occurs, can see it
coming but unable to warn anyone......

Dont get me wrong I want a nice safe flight just like you do. But this
clearly isnt worth the risks!

You're a sick man, Bob...sick, sick, sick. You say this days before a
launch? Do you know that families of the astronauts might read this?

You couldn't care less about the crew and their families, Bob. You're a
drama queen, and you only care about the attention you draw to youself.
You are shameful.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:37:53 +0100, wrote:


You are shameful.

Correction... Shameless!!!

--
Gareth

Bob Haller wrote:

My concerns are for the CREW and more impoortandly the familys they may
well leave behind...

Overriding the engineers, with that management hat, got us 7 dead
astronauts and one lost vehicle.

Awhile ago someone posted its not like they are ignoring the engineers
none have quit, and neither have any astronauts.

So engineer stands up for what he believes and is ignored...

Just one question if we are depending on atlantis for a rescue mission
about a month from now, how does atlantis fly with a know waterlogged
tank?

schedule again driving flying, cause of both accidents and 14 dead
crew.

I feel like I am at a accident scenne just before it occurs, can see it
coming but unable to warn anyone......

Dont get me wrong I want a nice safe flight just like you do. But this
clearly isnt worth the risks!

Not your call.

I feel like I did BEFORE columbia

I certinally HOPE everything goes fine....

But really believe this is all schedule driven...

Water runs out of atlantis tank the one for the supposed rescue shuttle
and it wouldnt effect current launch

In the event a rescue shuttle is needed, just what tank will be used?
the one thats waterlogged?

Gareth Slee wrote:
wrote:

You are shameful.

Correction... Shameless!!!

I decided to stop by to see how things are here pre-launch, and this is
what I was met with--more screeching from Bbo Hlaler. I can't believe it
anyone still replies to him. I just can't.

I came to the conclusion long ago that it isn't he fears another
accident, but that he lives for the day there is an accident.

Hope the rest of you are well.

Godspeed, Discovery.

rl
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Insisting on perfect safety is for people
without the balls to live in the real world.
Mary Shafer Iliff