Correct way to write 24 hour-time? Decimalpoint too.

Hi Alex_Coleman,

For myself, I write 18 hours 16 minutes after midnight as 6.16 P.
If it was something that happened 18 hours 16 minutes ago,
I write it as .761 days... ( 18 + 16 / 60 ) / 24 .

On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 00:11:46 +0100) it happened Alex Coleman
wrote in :

On 27 May 2006, wrote:

In sci.physics Alex Coleman wrote:
[...]

Then you are SOL since "layman" don't use 24 hour time and it
confuses
most of them.

[...]

24 hour time is not relevant at all to most people.

For those that it is, I gave you the convention.

For a time to be meaningful to geographically separated people, you
also need to account for time zones. Those too confuse "layman".


Here in Europe we use 24 hour time a great deal.

Laymen and even old ladies both use it.

If you make a contention that applies only to the US then that's ok
but that is not where I live.

Wel, i did some introspection, as European, if in the Netherlands at
say 16:48h somebody askes you 'what time is it' (in Dutch: Weet U ook
hoe laat het is?), I would reply with '12 voor 5' (12 to five).
Because of the context people usually KNOW if it is morning or evening.

"Jeff.Relf" wrote in message
...
Hi Alex_Coleman,

For myself, I write 18 hours 16 minutes after midnight as 6.16 P.
If it was something that happened 18 hours 16 minutes ago,
I write it as .761 days... ( 18 + 16 / 60 ) / 24 .


But, as you are insane, you don't count. I am sure _you_ find it easier to
write .761 days than 18 hours, 16 mins but I doubt even you would find it
easier to think and communicate to others in that manner. ("I will meet you
in .761 days" is just insane)

On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 15:32:35 +0200) it happened Charles D. Bohne
wrote in :

On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:17:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Wel, i did some introspection, as European, if in the Netherlands at
say 16:48h somebody askes you 'what time is it' (in Dutch: Weet U ook
hoe laat het is?), I would reply with '12 voor 5' (12 to five).
Because of the context people usually KNOW if it is morning or evening.

Maybe - but you wouldn't do that on the phone with someone calling from
"het buitenland" :-)

C.

We should all change to UTC 24h clock.
And drop the anual time shifts for summer and winter time.
You would get used to it fast.....

Earth is only so big.

In article ,
says...
On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 15:32:35 +0200) it happened Charles D. Bohne
wrote in :

On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:17:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Wel, i did some introspection, as European, if in the Netherlands at
say 16:48h somebody askes you 'what time is it' (in Dutch: Weet U ook
hoe laat het is?), I would reply with '12 voor 5' (12 to five).
Because of the context people usually KNOW if it is morning or evening.

Maybe - but you wouldn't do that on the phone with someone calling from
"het buitenland" :-)

C.

We should all change to UTC 24h clock.
And drop the anual time shifts for summer and winter time.
You would get used to it fast.....

....and throw away 6B biological clocks?

Earth is only so big.

Bit it's sooo round and only half of it lit up.

--
Keith

On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 10:15:53 -0400) it happened krw
wrote in :

In article ,
says...
On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 15:32:35 +0200) it happened Charles D. Bohne
wrote in :

On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:17:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Wel, i did some introspection, as European, if in the Netherlands at
say 16:48h somebody askes you 'what time is it' (in Dutch: Weet U ook
hoe laat het is?), I would reply with '12 voor 5' (12 to five).
Because of the context people usually KNOW if it is morning or evening.

Maybe - but you wouldn't do that on the phone with someone calling from
"het buitenland" :-)

C.

We should all change to UTC 24h clock.
And drop the anual time shifts for summer and winter time.
You would get used to it fast.....

...and throw away 6B biological clocks?

Earth is only so big.

Bit it's sooo round and only half of it lit up.

Yes that is the problem, I have a little program 'kworldwatch' (Linux)
that displays a worldmap and shows where it is still light.
A watch with a function like that (when all is UTC) would make sense.

OTOH when you call your boss from the 'other side', you get a tape
that says: 'office hours from ww:xxh to yy:zzh', or he will use some
sleepy bad language, or he will be happy with the new contract.

But in case of 'events' (phone conferences for example, meetings, etc..)
it would make a lot of sense.
And that annoying updating the watch on the plane stuff would be gone.

Jetlag would stay though.

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"Jeff.Relf" wrote in message
...
Hi T_Wake, Alt.Astronomy's _X_Report_, generated by the newsreader I
wrote,
is an example of how I indicate time... for me and only me,

Good for you. Its still crappy and slightly insane.Stop cross posting to
groups that really aren't interested in you (which would mean pretty much
all of USENET but you _still_ refuse to get a blog)

Are you rich yet?

Did you resolve your confusion over the spatial dimensions and my being an
accountant?

"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message
...
On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 10:15:53 -0400) it happened krw
wrote in :

In article ,
says...
On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 15:32:35 +0200) it happened Charles D.
Bohne
wrote in
:

On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:17:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Wel, i did some introspection, as European, if in the Netherlands at
say 16:48h somebody askes you 'what time is it' (in Dutch: Weet U ook
hoe laat het is?), I would reply with '12 voor 5' (12 to five).
Because of the context people usually KNOW if it is morning or
evening.

Maybe - but you wouldn't do that on the phone with someone calling from
"het buitenland" :-)

C.

We should all change to UTC 24h clock.
And drop the anual time shifts for summer and winter time.
You would get used to it fast.....

...and throw away 6B biological clocks?

Earth is only so big.

Bit it's sooo round and only half of it lit up.

Yes that is the problem, I have a little program 'kworldwatch' (Linux)
that displays a worldmap and shows where it is still light.
A watch with a function like that (when all is UTC) would make sense.

OTOH when you call your boss from the 'other side', you get a tape
that says: 'office hours from ww:xxh to yy:zzh', or he will use some
sleepy bad language, or he will be happy with the new contract.

So someone in Sydney might have office hours of 00:00h to 08:00h UTC and in
London 08:00h to 16:00h UTC and NY office hours would be 13:00h to 21:00h
UTC. How is that less confusing??


But in case of 'events' (phone conferences for example, meetings, etc..)
it would make a lot of sense.
And that annoying updating the watch on the plane stuff would be gone.


Okay, then when you land, the first thing you ask at the airport is, "What
time to people here eat their noon meal, and when is 'normal' working
hours?". The answer might be, "We tend to eat lunch about 20:00 and the
bank is open from 17:00 to 01:00."

Yeah, that's a *lot* more convenient than resetting your watch..... *NOT*

daestrom

On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 21:32:48 GMT) it happened "daestrom"
wrote in
:


"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message
...
On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 10:15:53 -0400) it happened krw
wrote in :

In article ,
says...
On a sunny day (Tue, 30 May 2006 15:32:35 +0200) it happened Charles D.
Bohne
wrote in
:

On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:17:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Wel, i did some introspection, as European, if in the Netherlands at
say 16:48h somebody askes you 'what time is it' (in Dutch: Weet U ook
hoe laat het is?), I would reply with '12 voor 5' (12 to five).
Because of the context people usually KNOW if it is morning or
evening.

Maybe - but you wouldn't do that on the phone with someone calling from
"het buitenland" :-)

C.

We should all change to UTC 24h clock.
And drop the anual time shifts for summer and winter time.
You would get used to it fast.....

...and throw away 6B biological clocks?

Earth is only so big.

Bit it's sooo round and only half of it lit up.

Yes that is the problem, I have a little program 'kworldwatch' (Linux)
that displays a worldmap and shows where it is still light.
A watch with a function like that (when all is UTC) would make sense.

OTOH when you call your boss from the 'other side', you get a tape
that says: 'office hours from ww:xxh to yy:zzh', or he will use some
sleepy bad language, or he will be happy with the new contract.

So someone in Sydney might have office hours of 00:00h to 08:00h UTC and in
London 08:00h to 16:00h UTC and NY office hours would be 13:00h to 21:00h
UTC. How is that less confusing??


But in case of 'events' (phone conferences for example, meetings, etc..)
it would make a lot of sense.
And that annoying updating the watch on the plane stuff would be gone.


Okay, then when you land, the first thing you ask at the airport is, "What
time to people here eat their noon meal, and when is 'normal' working
hours?". The answer might be, "We tend to eat lunch about 20:00 and the
bank is open from 17:00 to 01:00."

Yeah, that's a *lot* more convenient than resetting your watch..... *NOT*

daestrom

You have not travelled a lot right?
I have, and opining times, special holidays, local ways of doing things
differ a LOT all over the world.
And if you have a problem with day and night, there is this big nuclear
powered indicator light in the sky.