U.S. forced to give up control of internet to Iran & China

So what will they do, build their own name servers and have different
'pointers'? Ignore site registrations from unapproved services? Or perhaps
my paradigm is too clumsy.


"Greysky" wrote in message
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When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for
the United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders
are going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the
UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

topposter -
These countries allready operate a closed internet in their country, closed
via IP access.
They cannot get to most western sites.
A few ways to get around it.

Notice that you cannot get to many countries either.



"Doug Huffman" wrote in message
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So what will they do, build their own name servers and have different
'pointers'? Ignore site registrations from unapproved services? Or
perhaps my paradigm is too clumsy.


"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United
Nations can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for
the United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it
for exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our
leaders are going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a
bunch of terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN.
Without a fight, even. Sigh...

nightbat wrote

Greysky wrote:

When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN.
Without a fight, even. Sigh...

nightbat

What, giving up the net helm to such an organization as the UN
is poppycock! Most disturbing news indeed I say Officer Greysky. No this
can't be for the UN has been known not to be able to control all its
members from wide spread documented Nation abuse and missing oil for
food funds too. We don't need a peaceful world wide represented
bureaucratic member organization funded by the US to intrude on the net
comm. Your getting the present net to work just right with local
control is difficult enough and I can't imagine your trying to find out
who skewed up what in control of so many cultural different languages
too. The FTL net messages Science Officer sent far into the distant
galactic space or future was instrumental I'm sure in helping make first
contact Sean Race possible.

Come on this can't be happening, we science invent and get it all set up
only to be taken over by UN arguing body, oh the humanity.

carry on,
the nightbat

"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations can
stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of terrorists,
communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN. Without a
fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
..... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
..... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

"Doug Huffman" wrote in message
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So what will they do, build their own name servers and have different
'pointers'? Ignore site registrations from unapproved services? Or
perhaps my paradigm is too clumsy.

The possibilities are endless. The Chineese are already preventing their
citizens from reading newsgroups because the govrnment can't control what is
being posted outside their borders - that will change (imagine a legal
notice placed under every post you make stating you agree to post according
to UN anti-discriminatory and anti-racist, non-hate speech guidelines, and
if you post in violation of the law, the ISP is not responsible for
anything). Just imagine one day going to the mailbox and getting a summons
ordering you to appear before a court in china because of something you
posted a month ago, and now some lawyer in china is calling you a terrorist.
Imagine having to pay taxes on a purchase you made out of the country, the
V.A.T. in Europe for example if you are a US citizen. Or how about having NO
privacy - because now the Chineese government can order your service
provider to hand over all its data on you. Or not being allowed to renew
your internet hookup until you sign a legal document forcing you to place
yourself under U.N. law instead of the country you are a citizen of. Or
having your web site taxed by the UN collections agency even if it is
non-commercial? Do you *really* feel like abiding by Iranian Islamic law?
Like I said, there are endless possibilities...

Greysky

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"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United
Nations can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for
the United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it
for exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our
leaders are going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a
bunch of terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet

uh.... may I remind you that you are posting this on the internet? and hence, most of your
audience are people living outside the US ? You expect them to accept a foreign government
controls their internet???
--
Martijn (astro-at-pff-software.nl)
10" LX200GPS-SMT
ETX105
www.xs4all.nl/~martlian

On a sunny day (Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:23:37 GMT) it happened "Greysky"
wrote in
:

When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN.
Without a fight, even. Sigh...
Politics..
I agree, the US has done a great job so far with maintaining the registry.
It sort of concerns me, as I am running a name server......
For me (as European) it does not need to change, US is very much a free
speech country, unlike China and some others, Russia, what not.
Not even the Netherlands is free speech...at least they want to put
legislation through that will jail people suggesting we should nuke Iran
flat.... Or other kind of old fashioned imperialism.
Germany is blocking some (US) ultra right sites... Dunno about France.

So here I clearly divert from the EU point of view, but then EU point of
view need not be EU parliament pov (but dunno on this one).
I would like the US to remain in charge, because of freedom of speech and
freedom of commerce, and proven track record.
And one central point is a good thing in this case.

nightbat wrote

hanson wrote:

"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations can
stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of terrorists,
communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN. Without a
fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
.... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
.... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

nightbat

Oh please loyal long time net science newsgroups poster Officer
hanson please don't place all of us net Science Officers in that pork
barrel of human herds seeking answers to profound enigmas, for we
hopefully provide and resolve them. Remain joyful Science Officer to
exemption from the rule and give the people masses hope if nothing else
to escape the sometimes overwhelming reality of their present planetary
situation. You who always makes us laugh with you not at anyone and who
always brings no fudge correlation's and timely scientific observations.

The nightbat has known your science newsgroup iterations for quite some
time and can attest to the assurety of your Science Officer quality. We
need a laughing profound science good net researcher poster to help
brighten the rest and take a load off the normally seriousness of
subject matter. Lose control of our internet to UN bureaucratic control
oh no what else can go wrong?

carry on,
the nightbat

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"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United
Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet

uh.... may I remind you that you are posting this on the internet? and
hence, most of your
audience are people living outside the US ? You expect them to accept a
foreign government
controls their internet???
--

"Their internet"? Who is they? The internet was started by DARPA (read
America) to preserve communications in the event of a nuclear war. We made
it, we developed it, and out of the kindness of our hearts we are letting
"you" use it. If you want rights to something then make one up yourself, do
not try to steal ours. But, that seems to be in character for the U.N. They
are a bunch of thieving disreputable assholes who would rather try to steal
someone else's efforts than to create something unique in their own right.
I am inclined to believe it is because they couldn't make up their own
internet even if they wanted to. Lack of brains... A year from now, if I
tried to post this on the new 'UNternet', I would bet the post would be
removed for being too 'American". Maybe the Chinese would even put out a
warrant for my arrest for committing 'hate speech crimes'.... yeah...and
they can blow me too....

Greysky

www.allocations.cc
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