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newedana wrote:
Could you *please* try to get your attributions right? And could you please tell me why you yet again ignored all my questions for evidence and quantitative descriptions? So mathematics is childish and primitive? So Einstein invented all that stuff merely in order to cheat people? He was a fraud? Mathematics is very very honest so garbage in garbage out, Interesting. Other crackpots keep saying that one get out anything of maths that one wants. and not primitive and childish, but user's way of thinking for these two physical events was chilish and primitive. I asked you: "What is "childish" and "primitive" about wave-particle dualism?" Care to answer that? Yes! But I dont think he intended to cheat people, but unfortunately he resulted to cheat people with his childish idea. I asked you: "What is "childish" and "primitive" about wave-particle dualism?" Care to answer that? Dr,Yoon said in his book it is not only these two case but also all the other principles established by him are froudulent! The principles he established are fraudulent, although he not intended to cheat people? Say, do you plan to make sense *ever*? Bye, Bjoern |
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"newedana" wrote: Yeah, sure. Now this blowhard is elevating himself over Einstein? Has he no shame? Why Is the Speed of Light Exactly C and Not Some Other Value? « Older Messages 76 - 95 of 95 in topic - view as tree - 5 new Guy Gordon Apr 26, 11:50 pm show options You should refer newedana's reply for this question. I recommended to the poster you never ask your question to QM man or particle physicists who believe blindly A. Einstein's relativity theory. We had a bad fixed prejudice, action only through a medium and medium equals the mass. This traditional fixed idea seriously distorted the science of undersanding the light and its propagation chracters. Light is exactly the same as sound wave in propagating character.However, in standard high school texts they deny this fact, light is entirely different from sound wave. It is due to a strong influence of particle physicists today who believe light is corpuscular photons. Sound wave once released from its source propagates through the air phase with its own speed that is nothing to do with the speed of its source. If the source moves at some speeds there occurs the Doppler effect. Light is exactly the same as acoustic waves, in terms of its propagating character. Light pulse once emitted from its source propagates through empty space at its own speed, and this speed is nothing to do with the speed of its source. Thus there occurs the Doppler effect when the source moves at some speeds. One cannot hear the steamwhistle affected by the Doppler effect if one is in the same train. It is because the elongated wavelength of steamwhistle due to Doppler effect turns out to be restored to its initial dimensions when the one receives it in the same train, because man runs with the same speed as the train does. Light is exactly the same. If light source and the detector are on the same coordinate system, or on the earth, one can measure always the absolute speed of light, without any relation with the orbiting speed of the earth. Elongated wavelength of light due to Doppler effect becomes restored when the detector receives it, because the detector receives the wave signal as it advances with the same speed as the source, and vice versa. Albert Einstein didn't know this simple plain truth. So he set forth the famous postulation for his special theory of relativity; If a number of observer are moving at uniform velocity in respect to each other and to a soure of light, and if each observer measures the speed of the light emerging from the source, they will all obtain the same value. The same value in his word means the absolute speed of light from which speed of source is excluded. This is the very evidence he didn't know how to remove the speed of source v from additive formula, c=c'+ v, so he made his postulation c=c' when v approach the speed c. Thus he proposed the general principle of projectile mechanics expressed with a stupid equation: v=(v' + u )/1+v'u/c^2, by borrowing the idea of Lorents space contraction. In addition he announced that the speed of light is constant anywhere in the cosmic space, because the light has the fastest speed of all possible speeds in the nature, based on his equation, m=m'/(1-v^2/c^2)^-1/2. Mass increases its absolute value as its speed increases, so if the speed of mass approaches the speed of light its acceleration can no more contribute to its speed increment. However this is a fraudulent story if we accept that vacant space itself is only the medium of light propagation. Because the vacant space is absolutely uniform anywhere in this cosmic space, so the speed of light has to have a constant speed. Then how can we explain the light refraction taking place between different materials with different optical density? I could learn this phenomenon in Dr.Yoon's textbook(www.yoonsatom.net) The light section in his book clearly explains the refraction phenomenon with a simple equation, involving no speed factor, but containing wavelength of incident light, mass desity factor, as well as incident angle of incoming light. He asserts that light refraction can take place because the atomic nuclei in mass system subdivides the incoming light wave into numerous micro beams which develope into spherical waves, so the constructive interference between them build a refractive light with a different running direction. He also shows a number of schematical experiments of light refraction, utilizing a large number of concentric half circles drawn on two transparent films, and superimposing them. And he claims the empty space itself is the only medium of light propagation, and element particles building material system has nothing to do with this light propagation. Although this assertion conflicts critically against the traditional concept, it is quite correct. People today has been taught that electrons building the material system serves to transmit the light passing through material system. Feynman had also the same idea, so he debates critically the Feynman's equation representing refractive index, built based on his QEM theory, saying that it is a typical example of cheating people with a fantastic mathematical trick. As one knows as a plain truth, electric and magnetic force can act through this empty vacant space without any aid of mass particles. He emphasis in his book we have to abandon our old prejudice, action only through a medium and medium equals the mass. Particle physicists believe that the electric and magnetic force acting through this vacant space is due to exchange of their energy grains traveling with their momentum, and disregard the true mechanism of how these forces can act without medium. This incorrect belief, mass system interferes the speed of light is inherited from our science pioneer such as Fizeau who tried to investigate in 1845, how does the speed of light change due to moving speed of its medium, such as water. He mis-evaluated the light interference occurred between two light beams, one running along the flowing water and the other against that, as speed difference between them. But it is quite incorrect! Imagine two rockets. One approaches the earth and the other departs from the earth with the same speed. If they emit lights with the same wavelength to a detector on the earth, the detecot would receive two signals interfering with one another, exactly the same as that Fizeau experienced in his experiment. Have these two lights different speed? Absolutely no. They are exactly the same. This is the reevaluation of Fizeau's experiment by Dr.Yoon. newedana says based on Dr.Yoon's new physics. .. Get back to me when any of these yahoos wins a Nobel Prize. |
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In article .com,
"newedana" wrote: there is enough of them, gravity will do the job. It appears you do not know both the gravitation and coulomb's law. If you camculate the ratio of gravitation and repulsion acting between two electrons using these two equations, the repulsion between them comes out as 4.17x10^41 times as great as the gravitation. Do you still believe these lightest atoms or molecules can gather automatically to a place? All QM man believe like that way? Bha! So where are you claiming great numbers of electrons aggregate? |
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Yeah, sure. Now this blowhard is elevating himself over Einstein?
Has he no shame? Why Is the Speed of Light Exactly C and Not Some Other Value? =AB Older Messages 76 - 95 of 95 in topic - view as tree - 5 new Guy Gordon Apr 26, 11:50 pm show options You should refer newedana's reply for this question. I recommended to the poster you never ask your question to QM man or particle physicists who believe blindly A. Einstein's relativity theory. We had a bad fixed prejudice, action only through a medium and medium equals the mass. This traditional fixed idea seriously distorted the science of undersanding the light and its propagation chracters. Light is exactly the same as sound wave in propagating character.However, in standard high school texts they deny this fact, light is entirely different from sound wave. It is due to a strong influence of particle physicists today who believe light is corpuscular photons. Sound wave once released from its source propagates through the air phase with its own speed that is nothing to do with the speed of its source. If the source moves at some speeds there occurs the Doppler effect. Light is exactly the same as acoustic waves, in terms of its propagating character. Light pulse once emitted from its source propagates through empty space at its own speed, and this speed is nothing to do with the speed of its source. Thus there occurs the Doppler effect when the source moves at some speeds. One cannot hear the steamwhistle affected by the Doppler effect if one is in the same train. It is because the elongated wavelength of steamwhistle due to Doppler effect turns out to be restored to its initial dimensions when the one receives it in the same train, because man runs with the same speed as the train does. Light is exactly the same. If light source and the detector are on the same coordinate system, or on the earth, one can measure always the absolute speed of light, without any relation with the orbiting speed of the earth. Elongated wavelength of light due to Doppler effect becomes restored when the detector receives it, because the detector receives the wave signal as it advances with the same speed as the source, and vice versa. Albert Einstein didn't know this simple plain truth. So he set forth the famous postulation for his special theory of relativity; If a number of observer are moving at uniform velocity in respect to each other and to a soure of light, and if each observer measures the speed of the light emerging from the source, they will all obtain the same value. The same value in his word means the absolute speed of light from which speed of source is excluded. This is the very evidence he didn't know how to remove the speed of source v from additive formula, c=3Dc'+ v, so he made his postulation c=3Dc' when v approach the speed c. Thus he proposed the general principle of projectile mechanics expressed with a stupid equation: v=3D(v' + u )/1+v'u/c^2, by borrowing the idea of Lorents space contraction. In addition he announced that the speed of light is constant anywhere in the cosmic space, because the light has the fastest speed of all possible speeds in the nature, based on his equation, m=3Dm'/(1-v^2/c^2)^-1/2. Mass increases its absolute value as its speed increases, so if the speed of mass approaches the speed of light its acceleration can no more contribute to its speed increment. However this is a fraudulent story if we accept that vacant space itself is only the medium of light propagation. Because the vacant space is absolutely uniform anywhere in this cosmic space, so the speed of light has to have a constant speed. Then how can we explain the light refraction taking place between different materials with different optical density? I could learn this phenomenon in Dr.Yoon's textbook(www.yoonsatom.net) The light section in his book clearly explains the refraction phenomenon with a simple equation, involving no speed factor, but containing wavelength of incident light, mass desity factor, as well as incident angle of incoming light. He asserts that light refraction can take place because the atomic nuclei in mass system subdivides the incoming light wave into numerous micro beams which develope into spherical waves, so the constructive interference between them build a refractive light with a different running direction. He also shows a number of schematical experiments of light refraction, utilizing a large number of concentric half circles drawn on two transparent films, and superimposing them. And he claims the empty space itself is the only medium of light propagation, and element particles building material system has nothing to do with this light propagation. Although this assertion conflicts critically against the traditional concept, it is quite correct. People today has been taught that electrons building the material system serves to transmit the light passing through material system. Feynman had also the same idea, so he debates critically the Feynman's equation representing refractive index, built based on his QEM theory, saying that it is a typical example of cheating people with a fantastic mathematical trick. As one knows as a plain truth, electric and magnetic force can act through this empty vacant space without any aid of mass particles. He emphasis in his book we have to abandon our old prejudice, action only through a medium and medium equals the mass. Particle physicists believe that the electric and magnetic force acting through this vacant space is due to exchange of their energy grains traveling with their momentum, and disregard the true mechanism of how these forces can act without medium. This incorrect belief, mass system interferes the speed of light is inherited from our science pioneer such as Fizeau who tried to investigate in 1845, how does the speed of light change due to moving speed of its medium, such as water. He mis-evaluated the light interference occurred between two light beams, one running along the flowing water and the other against that, as speed difference between them. But it is quite incorrect! Imagine two rockets. One approaches the earth and the other departs from the earth with the same speed. If they emit lights with the same wavelength to a detector on the earth, the detecot would receive two signals interfering with one another, exactly the same as that Fizeau experienced in his experiment. Have these two lights different speed? Absolutely no. They are exactly the same. This is the reevaluation of Fizeau's experiment by Dr.Yoon. newedana says based on Dr.Yoon's new physics.=20 =20 .. |
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there is enough of them, gravity will do the job.
It appears you do not know both the gravitation and coulomb's law. If you camculate the ratio of gravitation and repulsion acting between two electrons using these two equations, the repulsion between them comes out as 4.17x10^41 times as great as the gravitation. Do you still believe these lightest atoms or molecules can gather automatically to a place? All QM man believe like that way? Bha! |
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
In article .com, "newedana" wrote: So mathematics is childish and primitive? So Einstein invented all that stuff merely in order to cheat people? He was a fraud? Mathematics is very very honest so garbage in garbage out, and not primitive and childish, but user's way of thinking for these two physical events was chilish and primitive. Yes! But I dont think he intended to cheat people, but unfortunately he resulted to cheat people with his childish idea. Dr,Yoon said in his book it is not only these two case but also all the other principles established by him are froudulent! newedana says to Bjoen Feurbacher Yeah, sure. Now this blowhard is elevating himself over Einstein? Has he no shame? All he has to do is create some tech that modern 'false science' says cannot be done and he wins. Theories are ten a penny - practical replicable results are priceless. -- Dirk The Consensus:- The political party for the new millenium http://www.theconsensus.org |
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I haven't gotten the book as it's just too costly at $180 (maybe you
can convince him to lower it to $25. I wonder how many here actually bought the book.. A great number of people at present who bought his book, and the numbe would increase limitlessly as years go. His book has no postulation at all in explaining almost evergy field of natural science. I sow he was laughing at main streme physicists, saying that wild dogs bark to the moon because they do not know what is the moon. I bought his book because his book will become a worldwide standard textbook soon because it can surely contribute to give a fresh new idea to those who work day and night for the development of their technology almost in evergy field. I heard some news already from a researcher who red his book got a great idea in improving the reproducibility of cold fusion experiment. I believe this book deserves more than 180$ . Allegedly statistical QM theory cannot attract technician's attension because it produces a great deal of meaningless data inaplicable for practical use. newedana wrote. |
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newedana wrote:
there is enough of them, gravity will do the job. It appears you do not know both the gravitation and coulomb's law. Suggestion: don't always search for the error on *my* side when you disagree with something I wrote. If you camculate the ratio of gravitation and repulsion acting between two electrons using these two equations, the repulsion between them comes out as 4.17x10^41 times as great as the gravitation. Indeed. Your point? What has that to do with *atoms* coming together??? Do you still believe these lightest atoms or molecules can gather automatically to a place? Indeed, they can, due to gravity. Hint: atoms are neutral. There is no Coulomb repulsion between them. Thanks for showing your complete ignorance of basic science, yet again. All QM man believe like that way? Bha! You should "Bha!" to yourself. Bye, Bjoern |
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newedana wrote:
[snip] You should refer newedana's reply for this question. I recommended to the poster you never ask your question to QM man or particle physicists who believe blindly A. Einstein's relativity theory. Liar. Physicists believe it because it agrees with the evidence. That's the precise opposite of "blindly". [snip rant] Bye, Bjoern |
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newedana wrote:
I haven't gotten the book as it's just too costly at $180 (maybe you can convince him to lower it to $25. I wonder how many here actually bought the book.. A great number of people at present who bought his book, How many of those actually understand physics? and the numbe would increase limitlessly as years go. Probably. His book has no postulation at all in explaining almost evergy field of natural science. Thanks, we have seen the level of his "explanations". Other people call that "heaps of unsupported assertions, vague handwavings and plainly wrong statements". I sow he was laughing at main streme physicists, saying that wild dogs bark to the moon because they do not know what is the moon. And what makes him think that he is so much more intelligent that all the hundreds of thousands of physicists? And why does he apparently ignore about 99.9% of the available evidence? I bought his book because his book will become a worldwide standard textbook soon In your dreams. because it can surely contribute to give a fresh new idea to those who work day and night for the development of their technology almost in evergy field. Why on earth do you think so? I heard some news already from a researcher who red his book got a great idea in improving the reproducibility of cold fusion experiment. ROTFL! Yes, that's a *great* example for the level of science in Dr. Yoons book! I believe this book deserves more than 180$. And why do you think you are in the position to judge the validity of this ideas? Allegedly statistical QM theory cannot attract technician's attension because it produces a great deal of meaningless data inaplicable for practical use. Maybe. You conveniently ignore that it *also* procudes at least as much meaning*ful* data *applicable* for practical use. Bye, Bjoern |
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