Original 7 Group Shot...

....So, what's wrong with this pictu

http://www.farthestreaches.com/ma6anniversary.jpg


OM

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:41:08 -0500, OM wrote:

...So, what's wrong with this pictu

http://www.farthestreaches.com/ma6anniversary.jpg

Something wrong? Oh, I hope not! It's the original seven all right.

From left to right:

Deke,
Al,
Jose,
Scott,
Wally,
Gordo,
and John

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om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy... _facility.org says...
...So, what's wrong with this pictu

http://www.farthestreaches.com/ma6anniversary.jpg


OM

I don't know who's standing in for Gus, but I'm sure that that's Bill
Dana (Jose Jimenez) standing in for Al...

Doug

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:26:56 -0500, Doug wrote:

but I'm sure that that's Bill
Dana (Jose Jimenez) standing in for Al...

No, he's standing NEXT to Al, Deke is first in the picture, so at the time
the picture was taken, Gus was the only one missing.

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:26:56 -0500, Doug wrote:

but I'm sure that that's Bill
Dana (Jose Jimenez) standing in for Al...

No, he's standing NEXT to Al, Deke is first in the picture, so at the time
the picture was taken, Gus was the only one missing.

OK -- boy, that sure doesn't look like Al Shepard to me. Of course, I
didn't see many pics of him from late in his life.

Doug

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:58:29 GMT, Doug...
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:26:56 -0500, Doug wrote:

but I'm sure that that's Bill
Dana (Jose Jimenez) standing in for Al...

No, he's standing NEXT to Al, Deke is first in the picture, so at the time
the picture was taken, Gus was the only one missing.

OK -- boy, that sure doesn't look like Al Shepard to me. Of course, I
didn't see many pics of him from late in his life.

....Glad to see *someone* got what was "wrong" with that picture. On
the other hand, since the Astronaut Hall of Fame has officially
recognized Jose Jimenez as the "Eighth Mercury Astronaut", Dana's
presence is obviously not that out of place :-)

OM

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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:58:29 GMT, Doug...
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:26:56 -0500, Doug wrote:

but I'm sure that that's Bill
Dana (Jose Jimenez) standing in for Al...

No, he's standing NEXT to Al, Deke is first in the picture, so at the time
the picture was taken, Gus was the only one missing.

OK -- boy, that sure doesn't look like Al Shepard to me. Of course, I
didn't see many pics of him from late in his life.

...Glad to see *someone* got what was "wrong" with that picture. On
the other hand, since the Astronaut Hall of Fame has officially
recognized Jose Jimenez as the "Eighth Mercury Astronaut", Dana's
presence is obviously not that out of place :-)

OM


Not to be confused with Bill Dana the X-15 driver and NASA test pilot.
Did Dana ever get astro wings for flying the X-15?

Gene

On 22 Jun 2004 06:02:22 -0700, (Gene
DiGennaro) wrote:

Not to be confused with Bill Dana the X-15 driver and NASA test pilot.
Did Dana ever get astro wings for flying the X-15?

No. He was a civilian employee of NASA, not a military member of the
USAF, so he wasn't eligible. The astronaut wings were only for USAF
pilots.

Mary

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:44:33 -0700, Mary Shafer wrote:

On 22 Jun 2004 06:02:22 -0700, (Gene
DiGennaro) wrote:

Not to be confused with Bill Dana the X-15 driver and NASA test pilot.
Did Dana ever get astro wings for flying the X-15?

No. He was a civilian employee of NASA, not a military member of the
USAF, so he wasn't eligible. The astronaut wings were only for USAF
pilots.


I just checked the book "Hypersonic" for the flight logs. I says the same
thing as Mary, but a little bit more. It agrees that since Dana was not an
Air Force Pilot he didn't get Astronaut wings for his flight above 50
miles. It also says that the NASA criteria was 62 miles (probably actually
100 KM to be in accord with the FAI).

Only two X-15 flights were above 62 miles, flight #90 and #91, both
piloted by Joe Walker. Neither of these flights were officially observed,
the highest FAI observed flight for the X-15 was 314,750 ft, which was
flight #62 on 17 July 1962. This was the official world record altitude
for a winged aircraft until this past Monday.