Titan Images

So we are all just about bored with the stunning 3 or 4 Titan images out of
some 300
that were released. Why are the low balling us again? What is it with
space imaging people anyway? This same **** goes on at JPL or NASA too.
Why don't they just give us more?

First of all, they had to use a CCD camera/chip that would last the time it
took to get there, and the fact that the probe would only be in contact with
the mother probe for a short time before batterys failed, they used one that
was not at the same level as the mars ones. They where not even sure if the
lander would hit soil land or fall into an ocean which would have killed it
on sinking.

And don't blame NASA, the lander was from the EUSpace outfit, it was a
piggyback operation. I figure that the ones we got where a major score. Plus
with one data channel failing, the number of photos went down too.


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"MrNightguy" wrote in message
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So we are all just about bored with the stunning 3 or 4 Titan images out
of
some 300
that were released. Why are the low balling us again? What is it with
space imaging people anyway? This same **** goes on at JPL or NASA too.
Why don't they just give us more?

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:55:08 GMT, MrNightguy wrote:

So we are all just about bored with the stunning 3 or 4 Titan images out
of
some 300
that were released. Why are the low balling us again? What is it with
space imaging people anyway? This same **** goes on at JPL or NASA too.
Why don't they just give us more?



Try here.
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~kholso/data.htm

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:55:08 GMT, "MrNightguy" wrote:

So we are all just about bored with the stunning 3 or 4 Titan images out of
some 300
that were released. Why are the low balling us again? What is it with
space imaging people anyway? This same **** goes on at JPL or NASA too.
Why don't they just give us more?

What the heck are you talking about? There are 37 pages of raw images on the ESA
site, and the images are mirrored in various places. What is it you want,
exactly?

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Cloudbait Observatory
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"Chris L Peterson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:55:08 GMT, "MrNightguy"
wrote:

So we are all just about bored with the stunning 3 or 4 Titan images out
of
some 300
that were released. Why are the low balling us again? What is it with
space imaging people anyway? This same **** goes on at JPL or NASA too.
Why don't they just give us more?

What the heck are you talking about? There are 37 pages of raw images on
the ESA
site, and the images are mirrored in various places. What is it you want,
exactly?

Hi Chris,

Good reply !
We have already a lot of images to interpret, even in false colors.
This is not Hollywood here with marketing ads and a lot of rushes at our
disposal (maybe later, hi !)...
This is science and in this context we can already be happy to get such
images from 1.2 bn km away.
When we know that the power loss reached about 280 dB on 8 GHz and was
received with a power attenuation close to 10^29, our friend 'd understand
how big is already the performance.

Thierry
http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/titan-brumes.htm


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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:18:25 +0100, "Thierry" . wrote:

This is science and in this context we can already be happy to get such
images from 1.2 bn km away.
When we know that the power loss reached about 280 dB on 8 GHz and was
received with a power attenuation close to 10^29, our friend 'd understand
how big is already the performance.

We have the amazing fortune to live in a time when we send probes to other
worlds and return images and other data that is widely available within hours.
And still you have people complaining. It is really very sad.

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Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

The images seem to be very noisey with low signal/noise ratio. I was
wondering if maybe grit, contaminants, radiation damage caused lots of
speckles in the images which caused the image compression algorithm to
waste bits encoding image speckles/artifacts instead of Titan features.
Was this unexpected? If so this is a big disapointment. Do you think
there is anyway they can recover from this, or is the information lost
forever?
The fact that fantastically interesting surface processes are just out
of visual distinction is very frustrating!
Look at
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~kholso/cameras.htm
to see how clear and nice the test images were....

Chris L Peterson wrote in
:

We have the amazing fortune to live in a time when we send probes to
other worlds and return images and other data that is widely available
within hours. And still you have people complaining. It is really very
sad.

Well, we live in a world where you can send movies from Peking to Helsinki
on a 100 grams device.... and complain about their quality. What do you
expect?

This being said, I agree wholeheartedly with you: being on Titan in my
lifetime (sorry for the egocentric view) is outstanding, and the data
returned so far hints at an extraordinary world.

How well it will be received in a world full of multi megapixel color
images remains to be seen: that's why I hope what the real scientists
derive of it will be well publicized and even (sorry) hyped.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:40:14 +0000, Chris L Peterson wrote:

We have the amazing fortune to live in a time when we send probes to other
worlds and return images and other data that is widely available within hours.
And still you have people complaining. It is really very sad.


I totally agree.

don't they just give us more?

What the heck are you talking about? There are 37 pages of raw images on
the ESA
site, and the images are mirrored in various places. What is it you want,
exactly?

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Oh, I didn't realize that