NASA panel says US cannot do space any more.

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We've learned over the years that many things are "well known" to
Bobbert that just aren't quite so.


so supply some links to news reports of people being proscuted. Incidently the spoofing is built into most commercial phone systems.


Bobbert obviously doesn't know what 'spoofing' is.


so johns service of detroit michigan can come up as a local company, from your town.....


And Bobbert never admits being wrong, despite all the facts being
against him. He starts out ignorant and then transitions to just
lying when he's informed of the facts.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/caller-id-and-spoofing
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Fred I am still waiting for a link about someone being proscuted...

Hey just this moment I got a call from card services. Caller ID NEVER shows their name and the caller ID phone number appears random and not a working number...

they drone on about calling them press ??? to get no futher calls from them.

doing anything appears to increase the number of calls

So Fred, where are the links about proscuetion?

Plus it appears that phone solicitors are exempt. They are just very annoying

In article ,
says...

Hey just this moment I got a call from card services. Caller ID NEVER shows their name and the caller ID phone number appears random and not a working number...

they drone on about calling them press ??? to get no futher calls from them.

doing anything appears to increase the number of calls

So Fred, where are the links about proscuetion?

Plus it appears that phone solicitors are exempt. They are just very annoying

No, they're not exempt, they're not following the law. "card services"
is the spam call I get most often. I don't even bother trying to get
them to put me on their "do not call" list since it's obvious they're
not following the law in the first place.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

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Please hold your breath. At least 5 major companies have been shut
down for engaging in this.


again provide a link. or go to your room.......

fred hasnt provided any link showing actual proscuetion, and card services calls me nearly every daY...

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:26:23 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:



On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:51:53 AM UTC-4, David Spain wrote:

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:11:34 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:



http://www.fcc.gov/guides/caller-id-and-spoofing







Good common sense info in that link. Fred I hope you don't mind, but I'm quoting and replying to it so that Google will preserve it.







Dave





do note what the law is. and its totally ignored from overseas callers



FCC Rules



Prohibit any person or entity from transmitting misleading or inaccurate caller ID information with the intent to defraud, cause harm, or wrongfully obtain anything of value.



so calling someone as a prank doesnt break the law.....





But calling someone because you dislike them and want to harass them

at work does.


FRED THE LAW IS...FCC Rules

Prohibit any person or entity from transmitting misleading or inaccurate caller ID information with the intent to defraud, cause harm, or wrongfully obtain anything of value.

so calling someone as a prank doesnt break the law.....

FRED, its time I tell you..........

for the last several years I had a program recording your every post and the exact time of your posts. A good friend was taking computer classes and set me up

now you have nothing to be concerned about since I have your employeers contact info and none of your posts here were ever on work time

But if they were the government contacts you do billable work for might not be happy. posting on the internet is frowned upon from work or at least during work hours

But if you have been posting on work time?

might be time to retire...

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:49:17 AM UTC-7, Robert Clark wrote:
The report notes the current approach of doing an asteroid retrieval

mission is not the best way to go. Preferred would be an approach that first

returns us to the Moon. In point of fact the current NASA idea of dismissing

any return to the Moon is making it that much harder for us to understand

how to get to Mars.



The only reason for the perception we can't return to Moon is the idea

developing a manned lunar lander would be too expensive. But you need a

lander anyway to land on Mars, and by developing a lunar lander you can also

use that as a Mars lander. And if you break your mindset out of the box that

the lunar lander has to look like the $10 billion Altair lunar lander, you

grasp the lander can actually be developed at over a *hundred times* cheaper

than that. Both the Masten XEUS lander and the NASA Morpheus lander can be

made into manned landers at only a few 10's of millions of dollars in

development cost.



So this self-imposed limitation on their own thinking is making it that we

can't get to Mars either.



Bob Clark





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"William Mook" wrote in message

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Because NASA isn't getting enough money!



rt.com/usa/163736-mars-nasa-funding-strategy



You need bigger rockets to do bigger things, and NASA doesn't have the

budget for that.

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The current fly-by-rocket lander which can be scaled to suit, puts another old question as to how in the hell it was accomplished so easily with those Apollo era landers that worked perfectly with fuel and payload to spare.