OT WHY DOES it take 3 or more hours for posts to appear?

Through groups.google.com it takes 3 to 9 hours for posts to appear,
yet i notice that others posting at jets group posts show up as the
game is being played, is there another way into this group that has
posts go through right away, thanks for your time.

"Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq" wrote in message
m...
Through groups.google.com it takes 3 to 9 hours for posts to appear,
yet i notice that others posting at jets group posts show up as the
game is being played, is there another way into this group that has
posts go through right away, thanks for your time.

This newsgroup is part of the Usenet newsgroup system, one of the oldest
traditions of the Internet. In fact it has been going on longer than the
Internet itself.

That means the news system is concurrently hosted on thousands of news
servers of which Google is just one. For instance, I'm using
news.speedfactory.net, and when I'm at work I use news.uga.edu.

The way the system works is that when you upload a message to one news
server, it is quickly, but not instantly, copied to others. For instance,
in a moment I'm going to hit "Send" and my message will go to
news.speedfactory.net. Within minutes, several other news servers will pick
it up from there, but it may take as much as a day or more to reach all the
news servers in the world.

News posting is not meant to be instant, but your news should at least
appear on the *same* server that you posted it on (in your case Google)
within about 15 minutes. I don't know what's causing the delay.

You don't have to get to groups through Google and their Web interface. Ask
your Internet service provider if they have a news server. If they do, you
can read and post news in Outlook Express, as I am doing at the moment.

By the way, whereas Google provides a gateway to the existing Usenet system,
YahooGroups really is a separate, private system that is not shared on
Usenet.


--
Clear skies,

Michael Covington -- www.covingtoninnovations.com
Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur
and (new) How to Use a Computerized Telescope

With my little webbybox, it takes my posts maybe 20 minutes or so to
show up here, but I've recieved email replies to my posts before they
show up on my system. Once you hit the button, all kinds of things must
happen out there...
Marty

"Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq" wrote in message
m...
Through groups.google.com it takes 3 to 9 hours for posts to appear,
yet i notice that others posting at jets group posts show up as the
game is being played, is there another way into this group that has
posts go through right away, thanks for your time.

Extreme virus scanning due to the latest wave of security holes is a
reasonable guess. When in doubt, blame Microsoft.

I've recently joined a yahoo group with individual emails going to my
hotmail account, which I have fed into Outlook Express. There's a 13 hour
time warp from the time a message is sent to the group, and the time it
arrives in my OE inbox. If I go out to the yahoo pages, the messages are
there _long_ before they get through hotmail.

That's not too good considering it's an observers group we use to schedule
local gatherings.

I'll have to turn on individual emails at a couple of the other groups I
belong to, and see if this is a common problem. (It never used to be).

-Stephen

Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq wrote in
message m...

Through groups.google.com it takes 3 to 9 hours for posts to appear,
yet i notice that others posting at jets group posts show up as the
game is being played, is there another way into this group that has
posts go through right away, thanks for your time.

Posting on Google does go through right away. Whenever I use one
of my sock puppets on Google Groups I always check my normal
news server to see whether the post has been sent. It usually takes
less than 20 seconds for the post to arrive. The delay you describe
is with reading posts on Google since they only update their archive
of threads every 3-9 hours.

"John Henderson" wrote in message
...

Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq wrote in
message m...

Through groups.google.com it takes 3 to 9 hours for posts to appear,
yet i notice that others posting at jets group posts show up as the
game is being played, is there another way into this group that has
posts go through right away, thanks for your time.

Posting on Google does go through right away. Whenever I use one
of my sock puppets on Google Groups I always check my normal
news server to see whether the post has been sent. It usually takes
less than 20 seconds for the post to arrive. The delay you describe
is with reading posts on Google since they only update their archive
of threads every 3-9 hours.

Ah! So on Google you're not reading the actual current news, you're reading
a big indexed file of news that Google has constructed?

One more reason to stick with conventional news servers.

Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq wrote:

Through groups.google.com it takes 3 to 9 hours for posts to appear,
yet i notice that others posting at jets group posts show up as the
game is being played, is there another way into this group that has
posts go through right away, thanks for your time.

Google is not a newsserver; it is an archive. As such it is updated at
relatively long intervals.

You probably would be better served by reading and posting through a
newsreader. Most ISPs provide newsreader service; several free
newsreaders are also available on the net. Try
http://news.individual.net/ for one of the best.

"Michael A. Covington" wrote in message
...

Ah! So on Google you're not reading the actual current news, you're
reading
a big indexed file of news that Google has constructed?

One more reason to stick with conventional news servers.


But Google is more useful at times because. . .
- It means I can access at work where installing NewsReader s/w would get
me sacked
- Google seems to have some threads that don't get onto my server
- Google is searchable.

"Michael A. Covington" wrote in message ...

This newsgroup is part of the Usenet newsgroup system, one of the oldest
traditions of the Internet. In fact it has been going on longer than the
Internet itself.

No, it hasn't; you probably mean the World Wide Web. Usenet is
approximately 10 years older than the Web, but the Internet has been
around in one form or another since the late 1960s.


Clear skies!

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~ U.S. Virgin Islands ~ USDA zone 11 ~ 18.3N, 64.9W ~
~ eastern Massachusetts ~ USDA zone 6 (1992-95) ~
--------------- http://cac.uvi.edu/staff/rc3/ ---------------

(Axel) wrote in message om...

Yeah it's been like this since Google took over Deja. Deja used to
update within 10-15 minutes IIRC. I sure hope Google improves the
refresh interval.

At least Google hasn't gone off to bite off more than it could chew.
Once Deja got into the product review business, their Usenet service
went down the toilet. After they "improved" their news servers, you
couldn't get any articles older than a couple of years.

A better refresh interval would be nice.


Clear skies!

--
------------------- Richard Callwood III --------------------
~ U.S. Virgin Islands ~ USDA zone 11 ~ 18.3N, 64.9W ~
~ eastern Massachusetts ~ USDA zone 6 (1992-95) ~
--------------- http://cac.uvi.edu/staff/rc3/ ---------------