Alpha Centauri has a planet

""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
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Androcles wrote:

""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
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Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our Sun).


You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

No. You completely lack sense of proportions.

As others have pointed out here, Moon's tidal energy is negligible
compared to the energy from internal heating caused by radioactive
decay. Jahn Polasek can do the math for you...

No. You can do your own ****in' math, and then prove your case.

No. You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io).

No. You completely lack sense of any sort.
No.
No.
No.
**** off.

Androcles wrote:

""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
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Androcles wrote:

""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
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Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our Sun).


You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

No. You completely lack sense of proportions.

As others have pointed out here, Moon's tidal energy is negligible
compared to the energy from internal heating caused by radioactive
decay. Jahn Polasek can do the math for you...

No. You can do your own ****in' math, and then prove your case.

No. You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io).

No. You completely lack sense of any sort.
No.
No.
No.
**** off.

Likewise.
You are not worth the effort.

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""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
e...
Androcles wrote:

""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
...
Androcles wrote:

""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message
...
Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give
us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the
larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is
given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our
Sun).


You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

No. You completely lack sense of proportions.

As others have pointed out here, Moon's tidal energy is negligible
compared to the energy from internal heating caused by radioactive
decay. Jahn Polasek can do the math for you...

No. You can do your own ****in' math, and then prove your case.

No. You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io).

No. You completely lack sense of any sort.
No.
No.
No.
**** off.

Likewise.
You are not worth the effort.

You fail to notice you completely lack sense.

Androcles wrote:
Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?


Depends on what type of racing cars you're talking about, and what type
of tires. If you're talking about top-fuel drag racing with those
incredibily oversized balloon tires, then yes there is enough surface
there that flexing them heats them to a certain degree. Most of the
heating still comes from friction from the road surface though, when
they do burn outs.

Other types of racing, such as Formula 1, hardly any flexure there.

Yousuf Khan

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Androcles wrote:
Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?


Depends on what type of racing cars you're talking about, and what type of
tires. If you're talking about top-fuel drag racing with those incredibily
oversized balloon tires, then yes there is enough surface there that
flexing them heats them to a certain degree. Most of the heating still
comes from friction from the road surface though, when they do burn outs.

Other types of racing, such as Formula 1, hardly any flexure there.

You haven't seen F1 drivers have a warm-up lap before the race,
deliberately snaking side-to-side?
Here's a better example. Go outside and feel the tyres on an
ordinary car that has recently been driven for a mile or more.
They'll be warm. They are only flat at the bottom, though.

Androcles wrote:
Other types of racing, such as Formula 1, hardly any flexure there.

You haven't seen F1 drivers have a warm-up lap before the race,
deliberately snaking side-to-side?
Here's a better example. Go outside and feel the tyres on an
ordinary car that has recently been driven for a mile or more.
They'll be warm. They are only flat at the bottom, though.


Yes, but they aren't building heat up in those tires by flexure during
those maneuvers. They are simply loading each side of tires down on the
road. There is a bit of flex, for sure, but the majority of the heat
comes from road friction.

Yousuf Khan

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Androcles wrote:
Other types of racing, such as Formula 1, hardly any flexure there.

You haven't seen F1 drivers have a warm-up lap before the race,
deliberately snaking side-to-side?
Here's a better example. Go outside and feel the tyres on an
ordinary car that has recently been driven for a mile or more.
They'll be warm. They are only flat at the bottom, though.


Yes, but they aren't building heat up in those tires by flexure during
those maneuvers. They are simply loading each side of tires down on the
road. There is a bit of flex, for sure, but the majority of the heat comes
from road friction.

In your dreams. Wheels were invented to eliminate road friction
in the forward direction and retain it laterally.
Here's a very simple experiment and an easy proof:
Get a wire coat hanger or similar steel rod and start flexing it as
rapidly as you can until it breaks. You'll burn your thumbs before
it does.
It doesn't take a scientist to know that happens, any experienced
metal worker is aware of it.
Earth's mantle is hot because the Moon flexes the crust, plate
tectonics is driven by the Moon.

On Nov 21, 8:07*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
Yes, but they aren't building heat up in those tires by flexure during
those maneuvers. They are simply loading each side of tires down on the
road. There is a bit of flex, for sure, but the majority of the heat comes
from road friction.

In your dreams. Wheels were invented to eliminate road friction
in the forward direction and retain it laterally.

Exactly my point, when the F1 racers flick from side to side, they are
loading the tires down laterally, thus building up lateral friction
from the road surface on those tires.

And to be technically accurate, wheels and tires don't eliminate
friction in forward or transverse direction, otherwise cars would
never be able able to brake. Nor would they be able to startup for
that matter as they wouldn't be able to accelerate either, since their
wheels would just spin-out due to the lack of friction.

Here's a very simple experiment and an easy proof:
Get a wire coat hanger or similar steel rod and start flexing it as
rapidly as you can until it breaks. You'll burn your thumbs before
it does.

Yes, yes, that's all very interesting but the amount of heat built up
by flexing depends on the stiffness of the material. Rubber is
definitely less stiff than metal wire.

It doesn't take a scientist to know that happens, any experienced
metal worker is aware of it.
Earth's mantle is hot because the Moon flexes the crust, plate
tectonics is driven by the Moon.

Then why isn't there plate tectonics on the Moon too? Oh yes, because
it has tidally locked to the Earth. Then why isn't plate tectonics any
less now than in the past, when the Moon was much closer to the Earth?

Yousuf Khan

Alright I wrote the first article so I have more to say. Any moon or
satelite that has a high spin(1 day), Earth and Io, has volcanism.
The sun has a high spin for its size, 6 days. Mercury although small
gives the sun a bulge on the skin of the Sun and doing so the Sun's
skin moves up and down and releases heat and light to Earth. I would
say each Star in the sky has a planet warping the Star all to be
dicovered.

granite stone wrote:
Alright I wrote the first article so I have more to say. Any moon or
satelite that has a high spin(1 day), Earth and Io, has volcanism.
The sun has a high spin for its size, 6 days. Mercury although small
gives the sun a bulge on the skin of the Sun and doing so the Sun's
skin moves up and down and releases heat and light to Earth. I would
say each Star in the sky has a planet warping the Star all to be
dicovered.

Are you implying that Mercury's tidal effects on the Sun
is what powers the Sun's emissions? Really?