About Studies on the Radiocarbon Sample from the Shroud of Turin

Hi,

I found one interesting article and abstract of which I copy below,
please take a look for your comments !!!

Best Regrads,

Hannu Poropudas

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In 1988, radiocarbon laboratories at Arizona, Cambridge, and Zurich
determined the age of a sample from
the Shroud of Turin.

They reported that the date of the cloth's production lay between A.D.
1260 and 1390 with 95%
confidence.

This came as a suprise in view of the technology used to produce the
cloth, its chemical composition,
and the lack of vanilin in its lignin.

The result prompted questions about the validity of the sample.

Preliminary estimates of the kinetic constants for the loss of vanilin
from lignin indicate
a much older age for the cloth than the radiocarbon analyses.

The radiocarbon sampling area is uniquely coated with a yellow-brown
plant gum containing
dye lakes.

Pyrolysis-mass-spectrometry results from the sample area coupled with
microscopic and
microchemical observations prove that the radiocarbon sample was not
part of the original
cloth of the Shroud of Turin.

The radiocarbon date was not valid for determining the true age of the
shroud.

(This is copy of the Abstract of the reference:
Rogers,R.N. 2005.
Studies on the radiocarbon sample from the shroud of turin.
Thermochimica Acta, 425, (2005), 189-194. )
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On 9 Apr 2007 06:35:22 -0700, "mathematician"
wrote:

Hi,

I found one interesting article and abstract of which I copy below,
please take a look for your comments !!!

Best Regrads,

Hannu Poropudas

------------------------------------------------------------COPY
BELOW--------------------------------------------------------------------

In 1988, radiocarbon laboratories at Arizona, Cambridge, and Zurich
determined the age of a sample from
the Shroud of Turin.

They reported that the date of the cloth's production lay between A.D.
1260 and 1390 with 95%
confidence.
..............
so it is 600 years old, isn't that old enough for a museum piece?
did anyone really expect more?


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On 9 Apr 2007 06:35:22 -0700, "mathematician"
wrote:

Hi,

I found one interesting article and abstract of which I copy below,
please take a look for your comments !!!

Best Regrads,

Hannu Poropudas

------------------------------------------------------------COPY
BELOW--------------------------------------------------------------------

In 1988, radiocarbon laboratories at Arizona, Cambridge, and Zurich
determined the age of a sample from
the Shroud of Turin.

They reported that the date of the cloth's production lay between A.D.
1260 and 1390 with 95%
confidence.
..............
so it is 600 years old, isn't that old enough for a museum piece?
did anyone really expect more?


w.
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That's nothing. Last week the CSI crew tested the rock in front of the tomb
of JC, and found that it had the fingerprints of the twelve apostles on it,
it was sedimentary in nature,. from a massive sandstone formation in the
area, and another biblical story was an obvious fraud, as well. Since,
using scientific deductive reasoning, they proved that the twelve moved the
stone, removed the corpse and claimed resurrection.

One member of the CSI team had a theory that the twelve had actually
murdered JC and made the whole crucifixion thing up for the sake of the
story.

Now back to work on the movie "The Passion of Christy," starring a
surgically enhanced geologist . . . .

On Apr 9, 5:21 pm, H. Wabnig .... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .-
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On 9 Apr 2007 06:35:22 -0700, "mathematician"
wrote:



Hi,

I found one interesting article and abstract of which I copy below,
please take a look for your comments !!!

Best Regrads,

Hannu Poropudas

------------------------------------------------------------COPY
BELOW--------------------------------------------------------------------

In 1988, radiocarbon laboratories at Arizona, Cambridge, and Zurich
determined the age of a sample from
the Shroud of Turin.

They reported that the date of the cloth's production lay between A.D.
1260 and 1390 with 95%
confidence.
..............

so it is 600 years old, isn't that old enough for a museum piece?
did anyone really expect more?


If they measured the age of some of the patches of the Shroud of Turin
then the right conlusion
would be that the date of patching of the Shroud of Turin would lay
between
A.D. 1260 and 1390 with 95% confidence ?

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Best Regards,

Hannu Poropudas

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mathematician wrote:

On Apr 9, 5:21 pm, H. Wabnig .... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .-
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In 1988, radiocarbon laboratories at Arizona, Cambridge, and Zurich
determined the age of a sample from
the Shroud of Turin.

They reported that the date of the cloth's production lay between A.D.
1260 and 1390 with 95%
confidence.
..............

so it is 600 years old, isn't that old enough for a museum piece?
did anyone really expect more?


If they measured the age of some of the patches of the Shroud of Turin
then the right conlusion would be that the date of patching of the Shroud
of Turin would lay between A.D. 1260 and 1390 with 95% confidence ?

Wouldn't the warranted conclusion be that the material of the patches
was grown between those periods, irrespective of when it was patched

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