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Old March 29th 07, 05:09 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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nightbat wrote

The hottest science topic being discussed today is Space
Flow Theory and here is some further data on MIT flow understandings.

See:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/turbulence.html

The MIT researchers need Science Officer Bert's expert time lapse photo
expertise to gain further insight into fluid mechanics and vortex flow
understanding.

ponder on,
the nightbat
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Old March 29th 07, 12:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"nightbat" wrote in message...
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nightbat wrote

The hottest science topic being discussed today is Space
Flow Theory and here is some further data on MIT flow understandings.

See:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/turbulence.html

The MIT researchers need Science Officer Bert's expert time lapse photo
expertise to gain further insight into fluid mechanics and vortex flow
understanding.

ponder on,
the nightbat


Matter is merely an insignificant turbulence in
the flow of the spatial/gravitational field energy.

The Sun? a whorl; the Earth? an eddy.
Space flows on; Life goes on.
In the turbulence of chaos, there is order.
Water builds/grows into life, gains mobility...
To seek new, higher levels.

Cool article, General!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Space so scary, quite contrary,
How does your nothing grow?
A just as hairy corollary...
How does your nothing flow?

Indelibly yours,
Paine
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http://www.painellsworth.net


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Old March 29th 07, 04:29 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mar 29, 3:22 am, "Painius" wrote:

Matter is merely an insignificant turbulence in
the flow of the spatial/gravitational field energy.


Insignifigant yes, in terms of its net energy density compared to that
of space (hence the 'dustbunny' moniker). But yet matter constitutes
the sink by which the hyperpressurized medium vents down to its lowest
pressure state. Without the sink there would be no flows(!).

The Sun? a whorl; the Earth? an eddy.
Space flows on; Life goes on.
In the turbulence of chaos, there is order.
Water builds/grows into life, gains mobility...
To seek new, higher levels.


Amen, bro.

There was another thread recently called "What's the Most Awesome
Thing You Saw Today?" (or words to that effect.) To me, the "most
awesome" thing happens *every* day just in seeing the Sun and stars,
in knowing they are the incandescing Vent Points, glittering testament
to the awesome dynamism of *space itself*venting down.. in seeing the
process of gravitation as the inverse of the Big Bang process, the
Continuous Big Bang. "Most awesome" is seeing Life as the pinnacle of
that Process. And "most awesome" of all is the privelege of being
alive and savoring life to the fullest.

oc(Bill)

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Old April 4th 07, 11:02 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote in message
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On 29/3/07 16:29, in article
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There was another thread recently called "What's the Most Awesome
Thing You Saw Today?" (or words to that effect.) To me, the "most
awesome" thing happens *every* day just in seeing the Sun and stars,
in knowing they are the incandescing Vent Points, glittering testament
to the awesome dynamism of *space itself*venting down.. in seeing the
process of gravitation as the inverse of the Big Bang process, the
Continuous Big Bang. "Most awesome" is seeing Life as the pinnacle of
that Process. And "most awesome" of all is the privelege of being
alive and savoring life to the fullest.


Shame your wrong about most of the above, save the last sentence.


There is hope for you, Phineas. For me, savoring
life to the fullest means exploring the possibilities,
the potentials, of what science has learned so far.

Science isn't just merely "knowing"... science is
knowing which way to go.

Quantum mechanics cannot explain gravity in a
way that jives with general relativity, can it?

Could this be because gravity is not a force that
works from within? sucking your feet to the floor?

Maybe we haven't found the graviton because
maybe there *is* no graviton? no transfer particle?

Gravity is the gentle push of spatial energy. It
keeps you from flying off without crushing you.
Your strong legs enable you to move around in all
this spatial energy. Your strong hands enable you
to build devices that *use* this gravity to perform
work. Your strong mind savors life to the fullest.

Welcome to alt.astronomy!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Invisible the hand which builds a spinning galaxy,
Unseen the busy fingers bursting stars so tenderly,
We may not see the fireballs that sizzle thru our skies,
Oh! what's the use for us to have such dark, unlucky eyes?
I see the need when night arrives on sparkling starlit sea.

Indelibly yours,
Paine
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Old April 4th 07, 12:14 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article
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"Painius" wrote:

There is hope for you, Phineas. For me, savoring
life to the fullest means exploring the possibilities,
the potentials, of what science has learned so far.

Science isn't just merely "knowing"... science is
knowing which way to go.


And discarding those paths which are the way to madness.

Quantum mechanics cannot explain gravity in a
way that jives with general relativity, can it?

Could this be because gravity is not a force that
works from within? sucking your feet to the floor?



No. The fact that QM and GR seem not to mesh is nothing to do with the
nature of gravity in this way.


Maybe we haven't found the graviton because
maybe there *is* no graviton? no transfer particle?


Still no litmus test for FSN


Gravity is the gentle push of spatial energy. It
keeps you from flying off without crushing you.
Your strong legs enable you to move around in all
this spatial energy. Your strong hands enable you
to build devices that *use* this gravity to perform
work. Your strong mind savors life to the fullest.



And allows you to propound nonsense. No-one can answer my failings of
FSN without adding more nonsense to the mix, and not ONE person can give
me an equation linking the so called pressure and density of space to a
physical constant.

--
Painius admits he cannot answer a single question to NB:

"Yes, you're right of course, NB. And they get very useless very quickly.
I shall do my best to ignore them, as you wish."
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Old April 4th 07, 07:07 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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From Painius:

Gravity is the gentle push of spatial
energy. It keeps you from flying off
without crushing you. Your strong legs
enable you to move around in all this
spatial energy. Your strong hands enable you to build devices that

*use* this
gravity to perform work. Your strong
mind savors life to the fullest.


This was mentioned recently in context of the 'most awesome' vein. Just
stand holding an arm straight out, then abruptly jerk the arm forward
and then backward, and feel the inertia. This is AWESOME, unendingly
fascinating, to litereally *feel* the resistance of space itself to
acceleration.. and to know it's by the self-same underlying mechanism
that holds my feet to the floor: the accelerating flow of space itself.
An intimate, living testament of gravity-acceleration equivalence is
literally at arm's length, to experience any time, anywhere.
Then a simple walk under the Sun or stars is unendingly
fascinating, seeing the incalculable pressure and power of space itself
venting down, incandescing with white heat at its myriad Vent Points.
Appreciation of life itself grows by orders of magnitude, recognizingng
life and sentience as the pinnacle of the Process of gravitation and the
Big Bang.. the continuous Big Bang.
Reality becomes 3-dimensional and in full color, in stark contrast to
the monochromatic, 2-dimensional worldview of 'space-as-void'.

Welcome to alt.astronomy!


The nature of space *should* be central to astronomy. The inviolable
primacy of the 'Void' has gotta be one of the most bizarre anomalies in
the history of human thought.
oc

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