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Old March 15th 04, 01:01 PM
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(CNN)
HOUSTON , Texas (AP) -- Former astronaut Neil Armstrong says
Americans should support President Bush's plan for renewed
missions to the moon and beyond.

Armstrong said the plan was economically sustainable and that the
country must accept the risks associated with space exploration
in order to reap technological rewards.

"Our president has introduced a new initiative with renewed
emphasis on the exploration of our solar system and expansion of
human frontiers," Armstrong told a crowd of nearly 600 people
Thursday.

"This proposal has substantial merit and promise."

He was in Houston to receive the Rotary National Award for Space
Achievement.

Armstrong, 73, commanded NASA's Apollo 11 mission in 1969,
becoming the first person to walk on the moon.

In 1971, he left the space program to pursue a teaching career in
aeronautical engineering in his native Ohio.

Armstrong said the success of the Bush's space plan depends on
whether the government, aerospace industry, researchers and
others can unite behind it.

The Bush White House wants to return to the moon and eventually
send astronauts there by 2020, and to Mars -- an effort that
would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. Some lawmakers have
questioned proposed costs and risks.

"Our economy can certainly afford an effort of this magnitude,
but the public must believe the benefits to society deserve the
investment," Armstrong said in Friday's edition of the Houston
Chronicle. "To limit the program in the name of eliminating the
risk is no virtue."

President Bush has proposed that the space shuttle stop flying in
2010 and that the remaining shuttle flights concentrate on
completion of the International Space Station and research.

.. . . . .

Our "space program" has been literally orbiting around
in circles for WAY too long now. Time to DO something
with what we've learned. A permanent, expanding, ultimately
profitible presence on the moon and beyond is the next
step. We were gonna spend the money anyway, so let's
spend it on something better than orbiting tomato seeds
and token foreign-nationals. The costs will be spread-out
over the next 25 years or so. We CAN afford the moon, so
long as it's on the installment plan.

Of course, I'm sure the libbies will claim Armstrong
is getting payola from Halliburton ...

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Old March 15th 04, 02:06 PM
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BlackWater spake thusly:

(CNN)
HOUSTON , Texas (AP) -- Former astronaut Neil Armstrong says
Americans should support President Bush's plan for renewed
missions to the moon and beyond.

Armstrong said the plan was economically sustainable and that the
country must accept the risks associated with space exploration
in order to reap technological rewards.

I support the space initiative too.

Of course, I'm sure the libbies will claim Armstrong
is getting payola from Halliburton ...

Heh. Sadly, this is probably true.

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Old March 15th 04, 06:13 PM
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is getting payola from Halliburton ...

Heh. Sadly, this is probably true.


Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it
could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon.

Tom
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Old March 15th 04, 09:13 PM
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TKalbfus wrote:

Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it
could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon.


Or: mining the moon for material for space shadowing, to ameliorate global warming.

Pail
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Old March 16th 04, 05:41 PM
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"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message ...
TKalbfus wrote:

Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it
could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon.


Or: mining the moon for material for space shadowing, to ameliorate global warming.


An exciting idea. Is it serious? Is it being discussed?
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Old March 18th 04, 01:28 AM
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Paul F. Dietz wrote:
TKalbfus wrote:

Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it
could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon.


Or: mining the moon for material for space shadowing, to ameliorate global warming.


Thats not a realistic outcome of mining on moon.

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Old March 16th 04, 06:44 PM
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"TKalbfus" wrote in message ...

is getting payola from Halliburton ...


Heh. Sadly, this is probably true.


Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it
could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon.



Why would this be sad? It would solve a lot of environmental issues
in one fell swoop.

If you had an order of magnitude more energy readily available you
could produce all the hydrogen you need by electrolyzing water. You
could keep it refrigerated cheaply. You could control the carbon di-
oxide content of the air--if you still had to--by electrolyzing air.

If artificial lighting became extremely cheap you could stack agricul-
ture on top of each other, thus for the first time reducing the envi-
ronmental impact our food production has on the environment.


So what would be so bad about "greedy corporations" developing solar
power satellites from Lunar resources?? It's better than greedy cor-
porations turning the last corners of the Earth upside down scrounging
for ever more remote sources of fossil fuels (and waging wars about
them)...



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Old March 15th 04, 08:13 PM
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quibbler wrote:

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BlackWater spake thusly:

(CNN)
HOUSTON , Texas (AP) -- Former astronaut Neil Armstrong says
Americans should support President Bush's plan for renewed
missions to the moon and beyond.

Armstrong said the plan was economically sustainable and that the
country must accept the risks associated with space exploration
in order to reap technological rewards.

I support the space initiative too.

Of course, I'm sure the libbies will claim Armstrong
is getting payola from Halliburton ...

Heh. Sadly, this is probably true.


Yes, it's sad that he's probably getting bribed to destroy his credibility
and lie about the potential for the underfunded, idiotic bush space plan.
Even Armstrong isn't dumb enough to believe that you need to go to the moon
to get to mars. By the time it's practical to make any kind of fuel on the
moon we probably will have already sent men to mars on multiple occasions.


You don't need to go to the moon to GET to mars - but
probably to get there, stay a while, and get BACK.

A moon base is an excellent testing ground for every
kind of mars-related equipment and technique. It's
"real life" - dirty, gritty, abrasive, UV-intensive,
low grav, radiation-soaked - and if people and equipment
won't hold up on the moon then they're no damned good
for mars. The moon also is a potential source of materials
for "topping off" the supplies on a mars-bound vehicle -
water, hydrogen, oxygen, assorted minerals.

The goal isn't to just GET to mars ... that's just a
grand-standing maneuver not much different from our
moon landings. To make it WORTH the trip they're
gonna have to STAY there for quite some time, maybe
almost an entire martian year until the planets
re-align properly. Six months out, ten months on
planet, another six months back - frankly I'd
like to TEST every possible system on the most
similar environment that's handy. That would be
the moon.

The only hope of a "short" mission is to use nuclear
engines. Even thus, it's maybe 3+3+3 months total
mission. We've learned to crawl, the moon will teach
us to walk, but by the time we go to mars we had
better be ready to RUN.

 




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