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HOUSTON , Texas (AP) -- Former astronaut Neil Armstrong says Americans should support President Bush's plan for renewed missions to the moon and beyond. Armstrong said the plan was economically sustainable and that the country must accept the risks associated with space exploration in order to reap technological rewards. "Our president has introduced a new initiative with renewed emphasis on the exploration of our solar system and expansion of human frontiers," Armstrong told a crowd of nearly 600 people Thursday. "This proposal has substantial merit and promise." He was in Houston to receive the Rotary National Award for Space Achievement. Armstrong, 73, commanded NASA's Apollo 11 mission in 1969, becoming the first person to walk on the moon. In 1971, he left the space program to pursue a teaching career in aeronautical engineering in his native Ohio. Armstrong said the success of the Bush's space plan depends on whether the government, aerospace industry, researchers and others can unite behind it. The Bush White House wants to return to the moon and eventually send astronauts there by 2020, and to Mars -- an effort that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. Some lawmakers have questioned proposed costs and risks. "Our economy can certainly afford an effort of this magnitude, but the public must believe the benefits to society deserve the investment," Armstrong said in Friday's edition of the Houston Chronicle. "To limit the program in the name of eliminating the risk is no virtue." President Bush has proposed that the space shuttle stop flying in 2010 and that the remaining shuttle flights concentrate on completion of the International Space Station and research. .. . . . . Our "space program" has been literally orbiting around in circles for WAY too long now. Time to DO something with what we've learned. A permanent, expanding, ultimately profitible presence on the moon and beyond is the next step. We were gonna spend the money anyway, so let's spend it on something better than orbiting tomato seeds and token foreign-nationals. The costs will be spread-out over the next 25 years or so. We CAN afford the moon, so long as it's on the installment plan. Of course, I'm sure the libbies will claim Armstrong is getting payola from Halliburton ... |
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BlackWater spake thusly:
(CNN) HOUSTON , Texas (AP) -- Former astronaut Neil Armstrong says Americans should support President Bush's plan for renewed missions to the moon and beyond. Armstrong said the plan was economically sustainable and that the country must accept the risks associated with space exploration in order to reap technological rewards. I support the space initiative too. Of course, I'm sure the libbies will claim Armstrong is getting payola from Halliburton ... Heh. Sadly, this is probably true. -- A Voice in the Wilderness: http://avoice.netfirms.com |
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is getting payola from Halliburton ...
Heh. Sadly, this is probably true. Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon. Tom |
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TKalbfus wrote:
Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon. Or: mining the moon for material for space shadowing, to ameliorate global warming. Pail |
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"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message ...
TKalbfus wrote: Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon. Or: mining the moon for material for space shadowing, to ameliorate global warming. An exciting idea. Is it serious? Is it being discussed? |
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Paul F. Dietz wrote:
TKalbfus wrote: Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon. Or: mining the moon for material for space shadowing, to ameliorate global warming. Thats not a realistic outcome of mining on moon. Pail -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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"TKalbfus" wrote in message ...
is getting payola from Halliburton ... Heh. Sadly, this is probably true. Why sadly, Halliburton is an energy company, if its interested in the Moon it could be one of two things SPSs or Solar power plants on the Moon. Why would this be sad? It would solve a lot of environmental issues in one fell swoop. If you had an order of magnitude more energy readily available you could produce all the hydrogen you need by electrolyzing water. You could keep it refrigerated cheaply. You could control the carbon di- oxide content of the air--if you still had to--by electrolyzing air. If artificial lighting became extremely cheap you could stack agricul- ture on top of each other, thus for the first time reducing the envi- ronmental impact our food production has on the environment. So what would be so bad about "greedy corporations" developing solar power satellites from Lunar resources?? It's better than greedy cor- porations turning the last corners of the Earth upside down scrounging for ever more remote sources of fossil fuels (and waging wars about them)... -- __ “A good leader knows when it’s best to ignore the __ ('__` screams for help and focus on the bigger picture.” '__`) //6(6; ©OOL mmiv :^)^\\ `\_-/ http://home.t-online.de/home/ulrich....lmann/redbaron \-_/' |
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quibbler wrote:
In article , says... BlackWater spake thusly: (CNN) HOUSTON , Texas (AP) -- Former astronaut Neil Armstrong says Americans should support President Bush's plan for renewed missions to the moon and beyond. Armstrong said the plan was economically sustainable and that the country must accept the risks associated with space exploration in order to reap technological rewards. I support the space initiative too. Of course, I'm sure the libbies will claim Armstrong is getting payola from Halliburton ... Heh. Sadly, this is probably true. Yes, it's sad that he's probably getting bribed to destroy his credibility and lie about the potential for the underfunded, idiotic bush space plan. Even Armstrong isn't dumb enough to believe that you need to go to the moon to get to mars. By the time it's practical to make any kind of fuel on the moon we probably will have already sent men to mars on multiple occasions. You don't need to go to the moon to GET to mars - but probably to get there, stay a while, and get BACK. A moon base is an excellent testing ground for every kind of mars-related equipment and technique. It's "real life" - dirty, gritty, abrasive, UV-intensive, low grav, radiation-soaked - and if people and equipment won't hold up on the moon then they're no damned good for mars. The moon also is a potential source of materials for "topping off" the supplies on a mars-bound vehicle - water, hydrogen, oxygen, assorted minerals. The goal isn't to just GET to mars ... that's just a grand-standing maneuver not much different from our moon landings. To make it WORTH the trip they're gonna have to STAY there for quite some time, maybe almost an entire martian year until the planets re-align properly. Six months out, ten months on planet, another six months back - frankly I'd like to TEST every possible system on the most similar environment that's handy. That would be the moon. The only hope of a "short" mission is to use nuclear engines. Even thus, it's maybe 3+3+3 months total mission. We've learned to crawl, the moon will teach us to walk, but by the time we go to mars we had better be ready to RUN. |
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