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And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-)
The craft would be a radical departure in that it will be equipped with a nuclear reactor, instead of nuclear batteries. Power output would be about 1000 times higher than the nuclear battery method. This opens exciting new possibilities for both power hungry sensors like ground penetrating radar, and the unprecedented possibility of orbiting one moon and then moving to another of Jupiter's moons at will (orbital mechanics permitting, of course). The reactor will power an ion drive that would be about 10 times more powerful than Deep Space One's drive. Full article at NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/16/sc...UPI.html?8hpib -- Tony Sivori |
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On or about Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:50:33 -0800 (PST), Tony Sivori
made the sensational claim that: And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-) Ok, we know. We've known for ages. We've associated this acronym with a regular poster to this group for ages. We're gonna end up jinxing the mission. :-P -- This is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | This space is for rent It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | Inquire within if you No person, none, care | and it will reach me | Would like your ad here |
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And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-)
The key thing here is "$8 billion". Compare with the RTG powered missions at http://centauri.larc.nasa.gov/newfrontiers/ for $700 million a pop. Other links on JIMO: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGON3J5RN1.DTL http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/jimo/ |
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Jim Kingdon wrote:
And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-) The key thing here is "$8 billion". Hey, that's quite a bargain compared to $87 Billion (for starters) to pull a deposed despot out of a hole in the ground. Compare with the RTG powered missions at http://centauri.larc.nasa.gov/newfrontiers/ for $700 million a pop. Other links on JIMO: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGON3J5RN1.DTL http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/jimo/ Thanks for the links. -- Tony Sivori |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:04:39 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
Tony Sivori made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Jim Kingdon wrote: And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-) The key thing here is "$8 billion". Hey, that's quite a bargain compared to $87 Billion (for starters) to pull a deposed despot out of a hole in the ground. We're getting much more than that for the money. |
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On or about Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:39:19 -0800 (PST), Rand Simberg made the sensational claim that:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:04:39 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Tony Sivori made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Hey, that's quite a bargain compared to $87 Billion (for starters) to pull a deposed despot out of a hole in the ground. We're getting much more than that for the money. Like what? And don't even think about saying anything along the lines of "a safer world". -- This is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | This space is for rent It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | Inquire within if you No person, none, care | and it will reach me | Would like your ad here |
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LooseChanj wrote in message . com...
On or about Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:39:19 -0800 (PST), Rand Simberg made the sensational claim that: On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:04:39 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Tony Sivori made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Hey, that's quite a bargain compared to $87 Billion (for starters) to pull a deposed despot out of a hole in the ground. We're getting much more than that for the money. Like what? And don't even think about saying anything along the lines of "a safer world". Quality programming on CNN ?? |
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Whatever We're getting for the money, $8 billion is more than half the
annual NASA budget. The armed forces have a few more pennies than that to play with. BTW if we do build a nuclear reactor powered Jupiter boat, should we be using MPD rather ion drives? They're supposed to be much more efficient at higher powers than ion, and they could scoop hydrogen from Jupiter to refuel. "Rand Simberg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:04:39 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Tony Sivori made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Jim Kingdon wrote: And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-) The key thing here is "$8 billion". Hey, that's quite a bargain compared to $87 Billion (for starters) to pull a deposed despot out of a hole in the ground. We're getting much more than that for the money. |
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sharpthoughts wrote:
Whatever We're getting for the money, $8 billion is more than half the annual NASA budget. The armed forces have a few more pennies than that to play with. BTW if we do build a nuclear reactor powered Jupiter boat, should we be using MPD rather ion drives? They're supposed to be much more efficient at higher powers than ion, and they could scoop hydrogen from Jupiter to refuel. Too much "fiction" and not enough "science" in this idea. You'd have to store enough H2 to get to Jupiter in the first place, then try an untested, science-fiction idea (scooping H2 from Jupiter's atmosphere) for the first time ever and hope it works. -- Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D. Reformed Aerospace Engineer Remove invalid nonsense for email. |
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Why must JIMO be nuclear? What's wrong with hydrogen fuel cells?
Alternatively, why not strap together 10 deep space ones and use the same light collectors? "Tony Sivori" wrote in message news ![]() And are you ready for this - it would be called the JIMO! :-) The craft would be a radical departure in that it will be equipped with a nuclear reactor, instead of nuclear batteries. Power output would be about 1000 times higher than the nuclear battery method. This opens exciting new possibilities for both power hungry sensors like ground penetrating radar, and the unprecedented possibility of orbiting one moon and then moving to another of Jupiter's moons at will (orbital mechanics permitting, of course). The reactor will power an ion drive that would be about 10 times more powerful than Deep Space One's drive. Full article at NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/16/sc...UPI.html?8hpib -- Tony Sivori |
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