Chinese test Anti-Satellite weapon

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Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Courtesy of Aviation Week & Space Technology and Aviationnow.com

U. S. intelligence agencies believe China performed a successful
anti-satellite (asat) weapons test at more than 500 mi. altitude Jan.
11 destroying an aging Chinese weather satellite target with a kinetic
kill vehicle launched on board a ballistic missile.

The Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the
Defense Intelligence Agency, NASA and other government organizations
have a full court press underway to obtain data on the alleged test,
Aviation Week & Space Technology reports on its web site
Aviationnow.com.

If the test is verified it will signify a major new Chinese military
capability.

Neither the Office of the U. S. Secretary of Defense nor Air Force
Space Command would comment on the attack, which followed by several
months the alleged illumination of a U. S. military spacecraft by a
Chinese ground based laser.

China's growing military space capability is one major reason the Bush
Administration last year formed the nation's first new National Space
Policy in ten years, Aviation Week will report in its Jan. 22 issue.

"The policy is designed to ensure that our space capabilities are
protected in a time of increasing challenges and threats," says Robert
G. Joseph, Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security
at the U. S. State Dept.

"This is imperative because space capabilities are vital to our
national security and to our economic well being," Joseph said in an
address on the new space policy at the National Press Club in
Washington D. C.

Details emerging from space sources indicate that the Chinese Feng Yun
1C (FY-1C) polar orbit weather satellite launched in 1999 was attacked
by an asat system launched from or near the Xichang Space Center.

The attack is believed to have occurred as the weather satellite flew
at 530 mi. altitude 4 deg. west of Xichang located in Sichuan province.
Xichang is a major Chinese space launch center.

Although intelligence agencies must complete confirmation of the test,
the attack is believed to have occurred at about 5:28 p.m. EST Jan.
11. U. S. intelligence agencies had been expecting some sort of test
that day, sources said.

U. S. Air Force Defense Support Program missile warning satellites in
geosynchronous orbit would have detected the Xichang launch of the asat
kill vehicle and U. S. Air Force Space Command monitored the FY-1C
orbit both before and after the exercise.

The test, if it occurred as envisioned by intelligence source, could
also have left considerable space debris in an orbit used by many
different satellites.

USAF radar reports on the Chinese FY-1C spacecraft have been posted
once or twice daily for years, but those reports jumped to about 4
times per day just before the alleged test.

The USAF radar reports then ceased Jan. 11, but then appeared for a
day showing "signs of orbital distress". The reports were then halted
again. The Air Force radars may well be busy cataloging many pieces of
debris, sources said.

Although more of a "policy weapon" at this time, the test shows that
the Chinese military can threaten the imaging reconnaissance satellites
operated by the U. S., Japan, Russia, Israel and Europe.

The Republic of China also operates a small imaging spacecraft that can
photograph objects as small as about 10 ft. in size, a capability good
enough to count cruise missiles pointed at Taiwan from the Chinese
mainland. The Taiwanese in the past have also leased capability on an
Israeli reconnaissance satellite

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Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
snip

Shouldn't be a problem since Globalist George and his Buds said we can
do business with them.
Americans are paying for the Communist Chinese advances in Military
capabilities.
I wonder if they will demand we turn over America to them to redeem all
those Dollars they hold or if they will demand the surrender of America
for the Communist cause?

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David E. Powell wrote:
Thought folks might want to know about this one.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1188

Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
snip

Shouldn't be a problem since Globalist George and his Buds said we can do
business with them.
Americans are paying for the Communist Chinese advances in Military
capabilities.
I wonder if they will demand we turn over America to them to redeem all
those Dollars they hold or if they will demand the surrender of America
for the Communist cause?

Not to worry. Since they've tied their economy to our markets (yes, they
are still our markets), the first time they take out one of our staellites,
their economy will go belly up. And I don't think the Chinese are that
stupid.

George

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David E. Powell wrote:
Thought folks might want to know about this one.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1188

Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
snip

Shouldn't be a problem since Globalist George and his Buds said we can do
business with them.
Americans are paying for the Communist Chinese advances in Military
capabilities.
I wonder if they will demand we turn over America to them to redeem all
those Dollars they hold or if they will demand the surrender of America
for the Communist cause?

Not to worry. Since they've tied their economy to our markets (yes, they
are still our markets), the first time they take out one of our staellites,
their economy will go belly up. And I don't think the Chinese are that
stupid.

Certainly they are not stupid, Asian civilizations have a long culture
of valuing education and learning from the past. However, I don't
think your comment about "belly up" is valid. There are too many
parameters involved in turning an economy belly-up. And since China's
economy is still *not* an export-reliant industry, like for example
Japan's, export restrictions will probably not have terrible effects
(just my opinion too, BTW, not criticizing your view as wrong, I just
don't give it the same probability). Model results would help I
suppose. Another thing is that China holds a vast stock of US treasury
bills, much as does Japan. That's "tying" the US economy to China and
Japan, as much as US markets tie their conomies to the US.
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"George" writes:

"john" wrote in message
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David E. Powell wrote:
Thought folks might want to know about this one.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1188

Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
snip

Shouldn't be a problem since Globalist George and his Buds said we can
do
business with them.
Americans are paying for the Communist Chinese advances in Military
capabilities.
I wonder if they will demand we turn over America to them to redeem all
those Dollars they hold or if they will demand the surrender of America
for the Communist cause?

Not to worry. Since they've tied their economy to our markets (yes,
they
are still our markets), the first time they take out one of our
staellites,
their economy will go belly up. And I don't think the Chinese are that
stupid.

Certainly they are not stupid, Asian civilizations have a long culture
of valuing education and learning from the past. However, I don't
think your comment about "belly up" is valid. There are too many
parameters involved in turning an economy belly-up. And since China's
economy is still *not* an export-reliant industry, like for example
Japan's, export restrictions will probably not have terrible effects
(just my opinion too, BTW, not criticizing your view as wrong, I just
don't give it the same probability). Model results would help I
suppose. Another thing is that China holds a vast stock of US treasury
bills, much as does Japan. That's "tying" the US economy to China and
Japan, as much as US markets tie their conomies to the US.

Oh I agree completely with that assessment. But China now has something it
has wanted for a very long time - a western-style economy. Too many have
made too much money from it to want to see it rolled back, in IMHO. I just
don't see them using this new weapon in any meaningful way in the near
future, least of all against the U.S. I do see them saber-rattling at
Taiwan, and I think that that is where the threat truly lies, if there is
one.

George

. And since China's
economy is still *not* an export-reliant industry, like for example
Japan's, export restrictions will probably not have terrible effects

I wonder how this statement was arrived at. China has large numbers of
agricultural and subsistence farmers. Their kids go to the city to build
coffee pots and radios and so on. I tend to think that if the US marekt
was closed that the economic impact would be enormous. Of course, the
1.077 trillion that China holds in US Treasury debt would last for a
while.

. But China now has something it has wanted for a very long time - a
western-style economy.

Perhaps. But the foundation it is built on is a third-world country.
The major problem is water. 90% of the rivers in China are too toxic to
touch. Wastewater treatment seems to be more difficult that letting all
of the stuff just flow into rivers. Not to mention almost unregulated
dumping of mercury, arsenic, acids, etc.

Hundreds of millions of Chinese are illiterate peasants living in crude
mud houses. The whole country is a ramshackle mess except for a few
percent of the economic elite, who put their money in Switzerland with
the hope of retiring somewhere other than China. I am unimpressed by
China on multiple levels. Local police are used as the personal
enforcers for local Pary bosses to whip any political opposition into
submission. Any sort of widespread social disruption would quickly lead
to a mass holocaust as the prevailing psychology of the population lacks
any really valid social contract, to say nothing of morality or what
civilized people regard as common decency.



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David E. Powell wrote:
Thought folks might want to know about this one.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1188

Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
snip

Shouldn't be a problem since Globalist George and his Buds said we can do
business with them.
Americans are paying for the Communist Chinese advances in Military
capabilities.
I wonder if they will demand we turn over America to them to redeem all
those Dollars they hold or if they will demand the surrender of America
for the Communist cause?

Not to worry. Since they've tied their economy to our markets (yes, they
are still our markets), the first time they take out one of our
staellites, their economy will go belly up. And I don't think the Chinese
are that stupid.

With the cessation of trade between our two countries, Wal-Mart goes belly
up.
Good bye small town America :-/


George

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David E. Powell wrote:
Thought folks might want to know about this one.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1188

Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon
By Craig Covault, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Cape Canaveral
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
snip

Shouldn't be a problem since Globalist George and his Buds said we can do
business with them.
Americans are paying for the Communist Chinese advances in Military
capabilities.
I wonder if they will demand we turn over America to them to redeem all
those Dollars they hold or if they will demand the surrender of America
for the Communist cause?

Not to worry. Since they've tied their economy to our markets (yes, they
are still our markets), the first time they take out one of our
staellites, their economy will go belly up. And I don't think the Chinese
are that stupid.

With the cessation of trade between our two countries, Wal-Mart goes belly
up.

Actually Wal Mart just goes to another source

"Tankfixer" wrote in message:
With the cessation of trade between our two countries, Wal-Mart goes
belly
up.

Actually Wal Mart just goes to another source

I've heard that they do that every so often anyhow, once the villagers
start getting bolder and asking for raises and improved working conditions
and such. Once that happens, they just shut it down and relocate somewhere
else where the people are hungrier and less likely to complain about details
like this.

Cheers,
kenb

With the cessation of trade between our two countries, Wal-Mart goes belly
up.
Good bye small town America :-/
HAH! More like hello small town america being Wal-Mart is driving all
the mom and pop stores under. Wal-mart is evil and those that work for
higher mangement are traitors and the truckers and clerks etc. are
being exploited and used as a tool against their own country. Wal-mart
may have started noble but what China has maniuplated it into as its
personal direct crap goods pipeline into the USA its truly sad.


George