Getting large stuff back to earth intact.

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought back
to earth?

Brian

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Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

No doubt about that.

George

Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

No doubt about that.

George

I thought it was just a one way device.

I was thinking when the next cmg goes bang, as it surely will.

Brian

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Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim
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"Damon Hill" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

No doubt about that.

George

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et...
Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim

Would that be the Amadas Coach, or the feathelight Prevost:

http://www.rvonline.com/motorhomes-5...d=1&SortedBy=4

lol

George

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

No doubt about that.

George

No RTV is made by Dow Corning, its an advanced series of adhesives and
fillers.

:-)

Brian

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Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim

Would that be the Amadas Coach, or the feathelight Prevost:

http://www.rvonline.com/motorhomes-5...d=1&SortedBy=4

lol

George

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

No doubt about that.

George

Damon Hill wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:


Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?


Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.


It's probably cheaper to just return the items that need analyzing in a
lab on the ground, or just the data, and toss the rest into a lonely
ocean in a controlled manner. The expense of returning a large item
back for reuse probably costs the same or more than just building a new
replacement.

robert casey wrote:
[...]
It's probably cheaper to just return the items that need analyzing in a
lab on the ground, or just the data, and toss the rest into a lonely
ocean in a controlled manner. The expense of returning a large item
back for reuse probably costs the same or more than just building a new
replacement.

That may be true if you're only interested in reuse, but there is still
a need for post-mortem analysis of some devices to learn how to make a
better one for next time. Some of those items are large.

And the CMGs may be an example where the (pre-retirement) cost of
bringing one back is less than the cost of fabricating a new one
because of unusual fabication issues. Post-retirement, the costs go up
for a while, but maybe the next try of the inflatable reentry vehicle
(Russian SLBMs willing) will lower the cost again.

/dps

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:19:39 -0600, Damon Hill
puked:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in
.uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have landed some relatively large
experiments on Mars...
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