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Inflatable habitats and reentry shields have reached some level of
acceptance. With this in mind there no longer seems any good reason why the two should not be combined to construct significantly lower drymass capsules and even space transports. Inflatable propellant tanks would seem less challenging development-wise than either inflatable habitat modules or heat shields. And so fully inflatable space transports seem potentially quite possible. In adopting such an approach drymass can be greatly reduced, perhaps by as much as a half depending on details, tank mass can become near negligible, as can structural mass. Hence payload might also be greatly increased. At such low drymass fractions the design margins are greatly eased such that SSTO becomes favoured with regard to development costs. For example, the Falcon 5 lower stage so modified could become a reusable SSTO of modest payload. Suborbital applications promise similar advantages. If the time is not yet right to bite the bullet of inflatable space transports, then it is not far off. It definitely has the potential to quickly make a lot of more traditional approaches obsolete and I am somewhat surprised someone is not already covering the possibility. Pete. |
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Pete Lynn wrote:
[snip] If the time is not yet right to bite the bullet of inflatable space transports, then it is not far off. It definitely has the potential to quickly make a lot of more traditional approaches obsolete and I am somewhat surprised someone is not already covering the possibility. There is a german project for an expendable, fully inflatable SSTO. But unfortunately I did not bookmark the link, and I could not find this on google. I will let you know if I find it again. |
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Pete Lynn wrote:
Inflatable habitats and reentry shields have reached some level of acceptance. With this in mind there no longer seems any good reason why the two should not be combined to construct significantly lower drymass capsules and even space transports. Interesting subject, inflatable reentry shields. I hadn't looked into it until you brought it up. http://www.jamesoberg.com/112003irv_his.html http://snipurl.com/n4nq http://www.space.com/missionlaunches...ne_000816.html http://www.strangehorizons.com/2006/...g-hell-a.shtml http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~adstc/PUB...aareview01.pdf The only problem is I haven't seen anything that shows one working well. The Inflatable Habitats are also interesting... http://www.space.com/news/businessmonday_040524.html http://snipurl.com/n4op http://snipurl.com/n4pl http://www.thespacereview.com/article/292/1 http://www.thespacereview.com/article/293/1 However, I may have a more efficient design which accomplishes more. Something to discuss later, sometime. Inflatable propellant tanks would seem less challenging development-wise than either inflatable habitat modules or heat shields. And so fully inflatable space transports seem potentially quite possible. I am guessing you are referring to some craft inflated in space to transport between another destination in space. I am finding it hard to picture a launch vehicle with inflatable tanks. My interest in tanks stems from the Hydrogen Economy on Earth. Hydrogen is a persnickety element frustrating to generations of engineers for over 30 years trying to make compact vehicle fuel tanks work in cars. All the problems of making H2 tanks work in cars are compounded making them work on Mars (or to Mars). In adopting such an approach drymass can be greatly reduced, perhaps by as much as a half depending on details, tank mass can become near negligible, as can structural mass. Hence payload might also be greatly increased. In space-to-space transport, size is no limitation, but volume does have a cost in terms of skin sheathing. A kilogram of liquid Hydrogen is 14 liters, but a kilogram of Hydrogen gas is 11.98 cubic meters, or 11,978 liters. Obviously it takes more material to contain Hydrogen gas than to contain Hydrogen liquid. That extra size of sheathing containment material costs mass. Hydrogen is the smallest and leakiest material there is. It can find ways through most materials, sometimes destroying the material on its way through. You will also notice that it doesn't pack much power in its volume either -- those 11,978 liters of H2 gas has about the same fuel energy as a gallon of gasoline packed in 3.8 liters, but only has that power if four times it's mass of oxygen is present. Hydrogen does not burn without oxygen. (Technically, the stochimetric ratio is ideally 1:8 H2 to O, but realistically H2 burning in rocket engins is burned "rich" with 2x the H2 required ideally.) I am not knocking H2. I said I came into this from an interest in H2. I just like working with the realities that H2 presents and solving those problems in realistic fashion. When you take a kilogram of H2(l) and heat it to vapor, 20.28 K (-252.87 °C, -423.17 °F), those 14 liters become 11,978 liters of H2(g). If the tank is rigid the pressure will be in the scores of thousands of psi. I don't really know because nobody ever did that and survived to tell about it. At 800 bar H2 only condenses down to 27.7 liters, which is at 11,603 psi. You can't just double H2 pressure and reduce the volume in half. H2 has fierce positive charge repulsion. In short, there is a big quantum leap between carring significant volumes of H2 as liquid and letting it go to vapor. Quite probably the Hindenberg zeppelin did not carry the load of H2 that the Shuttle carries for launch. I haven't been moved to do the math. If you want to replave the Shuttle External Tank with an inflatable, you won't be carrying LH2 but gasous H2, and then you have a Hindenberg strapped to the SRBs and Shuttle at launch. I have a feeling that the mass savings for so much skin and so much air resistence will not turn out to have much value after all. Inflatable LH2 technology has not been demonstrated. Whether the container is metal, rigid composite (like the Space Shuttle) or inflatable, the LH2 must be kept cryogenic, which requires refrigeration equipment and power supply operating continuously. If the temperature ever gets to boiling the pressures of thousands of pounds per inch square will pop the balloon. At such low drymass fractions the design margins are greatly eased such that SSTO becomes favoured with regard to development costs. For example, the Falcon 5 lower stage so modified could become a reusable SSTO of modest payload. Suborbital applications promise similar advantages. If the time is not yet right to bite the bullet of inflatable space transports, then it is not far off. It definitely has the potential to quickly make a lot of more traditional approaches obsolete and I am somewhat surprised someone is not already covering the possibility. Pete. |
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![]() Interesting subject, inflatable reentry shields. I hadn't looked into it until you brought it up. Mr. Spock - shields? Shields are inflated to 70% Captian. |
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