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On 25 Sep 2003 16:34:20 GMT, (Ron Baalke)
wrote: The newly detected moons, when approved by the IAU, will bring the Uranian satellite total to 24. Uranus ranks third in the number of IAU-certified moons behind Jupiter (38) and Saturn (30). Excluding the outer moons that travel in elongated orbits and are probably captured asteroids, Uranus holds the record for the most satellites with 18 in its inner system. All of them have nearly circular orbits. Saturn is second with 17. Something I'm curious about: All the outer planets seem to have trillions of objects in orbit around them, in a smooth continuum from moons comparable in size to our own, down to microscopic dust specks. Yet all the inner planets seem to be completely devoid of orbiting material, apart from the three moons Earth and Mars possess between them. Does anyone know the reason for the discrepancy? -- "Sore wa himitsu desu." To reply by email, remove the small snack from address. http://www.esatclear.ie/~rwallace |
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Trakar writes:
On 03 Oct 2003 11:49:06 -0500, (Gordon D. Pusch) wrote: Gas-giant planets and "terrestrial" planest are believed to form by different physical mechanisms. "Terrestrial" planets are believed to form by collisional accretion of "planetesimals," whereas "gas giant" planets are believed to form by accretion from a sub-disk embedded within the main protoplanetary disk that itself resembles a "mini solar system." Could you reference a good site (web, book, or paper) on this for me? I was under the general impression that it was a similar process, that it was just a matter of there being greater gasseous material to accumulate in the region of gas-giant formation. Do a Google search on "gas-giant formation" and you will pull up approximately 9340 references. You can further specialize your search by adding the keywords for the two competing gas-giant formation models: "runaway core accretion" or "disk instability;" the latter "disk" model is the "mini solar-system" model I referred to. (The "disk instability" model has been gaining support over the older "runaway core accretion" model, since the core accretion model does not appear to be able to form a giant planet fast enough to beat the ignition and "T-tauri phase" of the system's protostar. The "T tauri" phase produces Very strong stellar winds that blow away most of the gas remaining in the protoplanetary disk, terminating gas accretion onto the giant planets.) -- Gordon D. Pusch perl -e '$_ = \n"; s/NO\.//; s/SPAM\.//; print;' |
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![]() Gordon D. Pusch wrote: (Russell Wallace) writes: Something I'm curious about: All the outer planets seem to have trillions of objects in orbit around them, in a smooth continuum from moons comparable in size to our own, down to microscopic dust specks. Yet all the inner planets seem to be completely devoid of orbiting material, apart from the three moons Earth and Mars possess between them. Does anyone know the reason for the discrepancy? Gas-giant planets and "terrestrial" planest are believed to form by different physical mechanisms. "Terrestrial" planets are believed to form by collisional accretion of "planetesimals," whereas "gas giant" planets are believed to form by accretion from a sub-disk embedded within the main protoplanetary disk that itself resembles a "mini solar system." Do Uranus' moons lie in her equatorial plane? (So far my casual googling is giving me no answer) Hop http://clowder.net/hop/index.html |
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Hop David writes:
Gordon D. Pusch wrote: (Russell Wallace) writes: Something I'm curious about: All the outer planets seem to have trillions of objects in orbit around them, in a smooth continuum from moons comparable in size to our own, down to microscopic dust specks. Yet all the inner planets seem to be completely devoid of orbiting material, apart from the three moons Earth and Mars possess between them. Does anyone know the reason for the discrepancy? Gas-giant planets and "terrestrial" planest are believed to form by different physical mechanisms. "Terrestrial" planets are believed to form by collisional accretion of "planetesimals," whereas "gas giant" planets are believed to form by accretion from a sub-disk embedded within the main protoplanetary disk that itself resembles a "mini solar system." Do Uranus' moons lie in her equatorial plane? Yes. Tidal friction tends to damp out an inner moon's orbital inclination relative to the planetary equator on timescales short compared to the lifetime of the solar system. High orbital inclination satellites usually have fairly large orbital radii, and are generally thought to be relatively recent "captures." (One exception to this is if their inclinations are being "forced" by some orbital resonance.) -- Gordon D. Pusch perl -e '$_ = \n"; s/NO\.//; s/SPAM\.//; print;' |
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![]() Gordon D. Pusch wrote: Hop David writes: Gordon D. Pusch wrote: (Russell Wallace) writes: Something I'm curious about: All the outer planets seem to have trillions of objects in orbit around them, in a smooth continuum from moons comparable in size to our own, down to microscopic dust specks. Yet all the inner planets seem to be completely devoid of orbiting material, apart from the three moons Earth and Mars possess between them. Does anyone know the reason for the discrepancy? Gas-giant planets and "terrestrial" planest are believed to form by different physical mechanisms. "Terrestrial" planets are believed to form by collisional accretion of "planetesimals," whereas "gas giant" planets are believed to form by accretion from a sub-disk embedded within the main protoplanetary disk that itself resembles a "mini solar system." Do Uranus' moons lie in her equatorial plane? Yes. Tidal friction tends to damp out an inner moon's orbital inclination relative to the planetary equator on timescales short compared to the lifetime of the solar system. High orbital inclination satellites usually have fairly large orbital radii, and are generally thought to be relatively recent "captures." (One exception to this is if their inclinations are being "forced" by some orbital resonance.) At first I had thought Uranus and her moons must have formed from a subdisk perpendicular to the solar system. But I guess if a later event had knocked Uranus' axis off kilter, the moons would've moved into her equatorial plane over a short time. Hop http://clowder.net/hop/index.html |
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Hop David wrote in message ...
Do Uranus' moons lie in her equatorial plane? (So far my casual googling is giving me no answer) Hop http://clowder.net/hop/index.html Pretty much all the moons in the solar system are in the host planet's equatorial plane. There are exceptions, such as the far outer moons of Jupiter and Saturn's Iapetus and Phoebe. The 2 major exceptions are Luna and Triton (which is the only major moon with a retrograde orbit). There are OTHER sources than Google. Any good astronomy text would probably give you the answer. |
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![]() C. F. Leon wrote: There are OTHER sources than Google. Any good astronomy text would probably give you the answer. I'm building a library (far too slowly as I am not wealthy ![]() Got any recommendations? Hop http://clowder.net/hop/index.html |
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