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![]() From Robert Law, over at Yahoo Group's Inside_KSC, ), here's an interesting look at the history of England's coverage of America's space program.... Jim Burns ____ 36 Years Ago Today, Robert Law SPACE REPORTING FROM ACROSS THE POND During the Apollo Program hear in the UK we only had 2 TV stations BBC and ITV both provided coverage =A0 The BBC began with Cliff Michimore who was more famous for the Holiday Program to anchor there coverage along with a panel of experts which included Patrick Moore (who had contributed to Lunar Mapping pre space age) They built a big space studio to present there coverage behind the desks suspended from the ceiling was a huge moon globe. one rumor about this globe was that originally it was a prop for 2001 which had been rejected because Stanly Kubrick thought the craters where to deep !. The BBC used the theme music of 2001 to introduce these programs. During the coverage of the Apollo 8 mission in 1968 at the most critical moment when the astronauts where about to fire the SPS for the journey home the BBC cut the program to show Play School ! as the Apollo program progressed the BBC decided to get a space corespondent this was James Burke who had been on the science program Tomorrow's World , more recently he has done Connections which is shown on the Discovery Channel, I thought James Burke was excellent and so was Patrick Moore The Space Studio also imputed to the News programs The BBC sent there Air correspondent Reginald Turnhill to cover these mission from the USA ( I had the Honor of Meeting Reg in 2003 ) Reg is a real expert in spaceflight he also flew in the early test flights of Concorde and is famous for his observers books of spaceflight , more recently he has written The Moon landings which tells the story of his space reporting. he was the first reporter to Brake the Apollo 13 story ! as the Apollo program continued these programs got better and for the final Moon Shot James Burke and Patrick Moore went to Florida to cover the flight from the USA via Satellite , these programs broke many firsts in broadcasting technology in the history of British Broadcasting. Unfortunately very Little remains as the BBC scrubbed most of the tapes to re use for sports coverage =A0 =A0 . ITVs coverage was provided by ITN the ITV system consisted of lots of regional company's in those days this caused problems for ITN (Independent Television News) as they had to fight to get to show the space coverage , for Apollo 11 it was awful they had a verity night from a theater hosted by David Frost only cutting to ITN as Armstrong stepped of the ladder ! The First ever News at Ten in 1967 had coverage of preparations for Apollo 7. but like the BBC as time went on ITNs coverage improved There space expert was Peter Fairlie who always talked about the Moon Ship etc where as James Burke was fluent in NASA , CM etc. ITNs studio was a lot smaller than the BBC and there programs where introduced by space sounding music which I preferred rather than the music the BBC used. I was very young back then 9 in 1969 ! but unfortunately space has never had the same level of reporting since =A0 a few more comments SKYLAB There was very Little coverage I remember watching the Saturn V launch live after that very Little, ITN covered the story of Arabela the Spider ! and Patrick Moore had James Burke on his Sky at Night Program to talk about Skylab. APOLLO SOYUZ I was 15 and it happened during the School Holidays in fact 30 years ago this week i think ! The BBC had excellent coverage of this with a space studio , The Moon Globe had been replaced with a Large globe of the world and models of Apollo and Soyuz suspended from the ceiling ! again James Burke the music to introduce these programs was "Fanfare for the common Man" Arron Copeland. This was the first space flight I had seen in Colour as my friend Eric's parents had just bought a new coulor TV. this of course was also the first time we had live coverage of the Soyuz launch , in the UK this happened in the morning and Apollo went about 7PM again the BBC coverage was far superior than ITNs because they had more time. one of the highlights for me was when the sports program was cut for space ! I think this was the docking. VIKING The BBC did a live program on July 4 1976 for the mars landing and James Burke reported live from America unfortunately the Viking landings where delayed and this spoiled the program as there was no pics from Mars ! SPACE SHUTTLE In 1981 both ITV and BBC covered the Launch of Columbia and this time ITNs coverage was far superior than the BBCs . ITN constructed a Space Studio the programs where anchored by Sir Alister Burnett (News at Ten) and in the studio with him was Dave Scott of Apollo 15 The program was introduced with fireballxl5 type space music. there was coverage of the launch then a shorter program with coverage from orbit and news reports on the ITN news from the Space Studio and coverage of the Landing. The BBC coverage was done by the Tomorrow's World program I was disappointed that James Burke was not doing the coverage. for the opening music again Copeland was used "Rodeo" the next track on the LP from Apollo Soyuz !. STS 2 ITN again provided coverage from there space studio this time with Dick Gordon APOLLO 12 The BBC was reduced to coverage of the launch on Radio 2 Pathetic ! SPACE SHUTTLE ERA 1982-2005 From STS 3 until Discovery's return to flight in 1988 we had no live coverage and had to make do with the ordinary news reports I bought a VHS video for sts 1 and have a huge collection as I record and watch all space missions (Apollo has a lot to answer for !) By the Time of the first Shuttle flights Reg Tunrnhil was forced to retire from The BBC due to his age and became a freelance space reporter (see his book Moon landings ) he began to provide live reports over the phone to the children's news program =A0 Newsround these where more accurate than what we where getting in some of the main news programs. In a rare event in 1983 the ITV breakfast station TVAM covered the first Night Launch of the space shuttle Challenger , which was the start of lots of space items on this program over the years sadly in 1991 they lost the franchise Over the years ITNs reporting was away ahead of the BBC which tended to be very negative in 1985 ITN even arranged a schools experiment in Space which sadly was delayed by the Challenger accident. The BBC Newsround program was on air but not showing live pictures of the launch but after the explosion went to it so they broke the story in the UK. RETURN TO FLIGHT (1988) The BBC provided live coverage of the launch of STS26 they had James Pike reporting live from KSC since 1988 the BBC has now moved ahead of ITN in its space reporting which douse not seem to be bad as it was in the 80s . with BBC NEWS 24 they can now cover launches live . there was no live coverage planed for Discovery last week but we now have the 24 hour news channels for that. CNNI In 1991 I got a Satellite dish installed for CNN which covers the Launches in the 1990s we had John Holiman who I thought was excellent as a space reporter he was full of enthusiasm he would keep going when they tried to move on to the next item!. when I heard the news that John had been killed in a car crash it was a very sad day for me ,like the Challenger Disaster or the loss of Columbia. Unfortunately over the Year's CNNI has less US programing and we do not get the same amount of coverage as CNN USA we do not see much of Miles O'Brien in fact Deep Impact was covered from London by the Technology Corespondent. Nowadays it is the INTERNET and Broadband if only we had that in the 70s ! Robert Law |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:42:53 -0400, (Jim Burns)
wrote: Unfortunately very Little remains as the BBC scrubbed most of the tapes to re use for sports coverage * * ....This is why beancounters still alive who were employed by the BBC in those years should be taken out and burned at the stake. Sports programming. Pa****ingthetic. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:42:53 -0400, (Jim Burns) wrote: Unfortunately very Little remains as the BBC scrubbed most of the tapes to re use for sports coverage * * ...This is why beancounters still alive who were employed by the BBC in those years should be taken out and burned at the stake. Among the various other details he got wrong... Live programming like this was almost never recorded in the first place, there wasn't enough equipment to do it or budget to cover it. And even if it had been recorded, the tape would not have been re-used for sport. They had their own series of tape numbers. Anthony - Former BBC-VT engineer |
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"Jim Burns" wrote:
From Robert Law, over at Yahoo Group's Inside_KSC, ), here's an interesting look at the history of England's coverage of America's space program.... Jim Burns ____ During the Apollo Program hear in the UK we only had 2 TV stations BBC and ITV both provided coverage The BBC had two channels from 1964. [snipped most of the inaccurate guff] During the coverage of the Apollo 8 mission in 1968 at the most critical moment when the astronauts where about to fire the SPS for the journey home the BBC cut the program to show Play School ! Since the TEI burn started at 06:10 GMT and AOS followed at 06:25 there would have been no scheduled programs at that time - certainly not Play School, which was usually aired at 13:00 on BBC 1 and at 16:20 on BBC 2. The event happened on Christmas Day too, so schedules might have been different. However, back then programs didn't usually start until later in the day - there were no Breakfast shows. -- Brian Lawrence Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK |
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"Brian Lawrence" wrote:
During the coverage of the Apollo 8 mission in 1968 at the most critical moment when the astronauts where about to fire the SPS for the journey home the BBC cut the program to show Play School ! Since the TEI burn started at 06:10 GMT and AOS followed at 06:25 there would have been no scheduled programs at that time - certainly not Play School, which was usually aired at 13:00 on BBC 1 and at 16:20 on BBC 2. The event happened on Christmas Day too, so schedules might have been different. However, back then programs didn't usually start until later in the day - there were no Breakfast shows. Did a bit of digging - here are the BBC TV Schedules for Christmas Day 1968: http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/tellyye...istmas60s2.htm To summarise BBC 1 started broadcasting at 08:45 with Carol Story, followed by a news bulletin at 09:15 and then a five-minute Apollo Report at 09:30. BBC 2 went on air at 09:15 with a 15m Apollo Report. The next programme was indeed Play School, but that was scheduled for 11:20 - almost two hours after the brief report and five hours after TEI took place. There was a second 15m report at 11:55. There is a footnote that says the Apollo Reports were not listed in the Radio Times (the BBC's weekly schedule magazine), but were expected to be shown. There is also a photo of presenter Cliff Michelmore with the Moon globe. There is also an interesting article about both BBC and ITV Apollo 11 coverage at http://www.tvhistory.btinternet.co.u...rget_moon.html The ref. to Play School seems to have been a garbled version of a Patrick Moore anecdote when he said that he was just starting to explain a critical part of the mission when the Beeb switched to Jackanory (a children's story programme). The story appeared in the Guardian in July 1999, but the same story in the Sunday Telegraph (Jan 2001) attributed it to Apollo 8. -- Brian Lawrence Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK |
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writes "Jim Burns" wrote: From Robert Law, over at Yahoo Group's Inside_KSC, ), here's an interesting look at the history of England's coverage of America's space program.... Jim Burns ____ During the Apollo Program hear in the UK we only had 2 TV stations BBC and ITV both provided coverage The BBC had two channels from 1964. [snipped most of the inaccurate guff] During the coverage of the Apollo 8 mission in 1968 at the most critical moment when the astronauts where about to fire the SPS for the journey home the BBC cut the program to show Play School ! Since the TEI burn started at 06:10 GMT and AOS followed at 06:25 there would have been no scheduled programs at that time - certainly not Play School, which was usually aired at 13:00 on BBC 1 and at 16:20 on BBC 2. The event happened on Christmas Day too, so schedules might have been different. However, back then programs didn't usually start until later in the day - there were no Breakfast shows. The details may be incorrect, but something like that certainly happened because I still recall my anger at the BBC switching from news coverage to children's programmes. And I can post a link to prove it :-) (did a search for Jackanory + "Apollo 8" http://www.open2.net/thingsweforgot/three_transcript_p4.html). I still recall being annoyed by the BBC presenters scrawling over live pictures from space with some sort of "light pen", and by the fact that most of the coverage was apparently just an excuse for James Burke to crawl inside various mock-ups. OTOH, I recall being absolutely enthralled by coverage of one of the returning LMs (perhaps Apollo 12 or 14, can't recall) as it grew from a speck against the lunar landscape sweeping past to a real object with visible astronauts inside. "2001" may well have still being playing in cinemas - films had long runs then - but here it was live and real on TV! -- Boycott whale killers - Japan, Iceland, Norway Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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"Jonathan Silverlight" wrote:
In message , Brian Lawrence writes "Jim Burns" wrote: From Robert Law, over at Yahoo Group's Inside_KSC, ), here's an interesting look at the history of England's coverage of America's space program.... Jim Burns ____ During the Apollo Program hear in the UK we only had 2 TV stations BBC and ITV both provided coverage The BBC had two channels from 1964. [snipped most of the inaccurate guff] During the coverage of the Apollo 8 mission in 1968 at the most critical moment when the astronauts where about to fire the SPS for the journey home the BBC cut the program to show Play School ! Since the TEI burn started at 06:10 GMT and AOS followed at 06:25 there would have been no scheduled programs at that time - certainly not Play School, which was usually aired at 13:00 on BBC 1 and at 16:20 on BBC 2. The event happened on Christmas Day too, so schedules might have been different. However, back then programs didn't usually start until later in the day - there were no Breakfast shows. The details may be incorrect, but something like that certainly happened because I still recall my anger at the BBC switching from news coverage to children's programmes. And I can post a link to prove it :-) (did a search for Jackanory + "Apollo 8" http://www.open2.net/thingsweforgot/three_transcript_p4.html). I still recall being annoyed by the BBC presenters scrawling over live pictures from space with some sort of "light pen", and by the fact that most of the coverage was apparently just an excuse for James Burke to crawl inside various mock-ups. OTOH, I recall being absolutely enthralled by coverage of one of the returning LMs (perhaps Apollo 12 or 14, can't recall) as it grew from a speck against the lunar landscape sweeping past to a real object with visible astronauts inside. "2001" may well have still being playing in cinemas - films had long runs then - but here it was live and real on TV! Thanks for the link - looks like it was the Christmas Day 09:30 five-min. broadcast. I'll dig out my tape of that Horizon programme to see if any further details emerge. Certainly not "the most critical moment" of the mission though. -- Brian |
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