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Old June 2nd 04, 10:05 PM
Hop David
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http://www.space.com/missionlaunches...te_040602.html

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Old June 2nd 04, 11:29 PM
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Hop David wrote:

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches...te_040602.html


Hot damn! The X-Prize will be won in less than three weeks. This will
be a historic occasion.

More details (from spacetoday.net):

"SpaceShipOne... will fly into space for the first time on Monday, June
21, the company announced Wednesday. SpaceShipOne will fly to an
altitude of at least 100 kilometers, a widely-accepted boundary of
space, on the flight. ... The pilot of SpaceShipOne on this flight will
be announced at a later date; Brian Binnie and Mike Melvill have both
flown SpaceShipOne on powered test flights previously. ... Wednesday's
announcement is a break in the tight veil of secrecy that has surrounded
the program during its development and previous test flights, which have
not been previously announced to the public. Scaled said the public will
be invited to witness this flight."

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Old June 2nd 04, 11:34 PM
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Joe Strout wrote:

Hot damn! The X-Prize will be won in less than three weeks. This will
be a historic occasion.


Correction: they won't be quite winning the X-Prize on June 21; to do
that, they have to fly twice in two weeks. But I think we're all agreed
that this will be pretty much a formality after the 100 km flight.

Best,
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Old June 3rd 04, 12:12 AM
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In article ,
Joe Strout wrote:

In article ,
Joe Strout wrote:

Hot damn! The X-Prize will be won in less than three weeks. This will
be a historic occasion.


Correction: they won't be quite winning the X-Prize on June 21; to do
that, they have to fly twice in two weeks. But I think we're all agreed
that this will be pretty much a formality after the 100 km flight.

Best,
- Joe


Actually, no. They have to do it with triple the payload: three people,
not just one pilot. And they have to do it again within two weeks, not
a month or two (or three) between each flight.

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Old June 3rd 04, 01:02 AM
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"Herb Schaltegger" wrote in message
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In article ,
Joe Strout wrote:

In article ,
Joe Strout wrote:

Hot damn! The X-Prize will be won in less than three weeks. This

will
be a historic occasion.


Correction: they won't be quite winning the X-Prize on June 21; to do
that, they have to fly twice in two weeks. But I think we're all agreed
that this will be pretty much a formality after the 100 km flight.

Best,
- Joe


Actually, no. They have to do it with triple the payload: three people,
not just one pilot. And they have to do it again within two weeks, not
a month or two (or three) between each flight.


No, they have to do it with the MASS of 3 people, but it only requires one
actual person.



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Old June 3rd 04, 01:44 AM
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In article ,
"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote:

"Herb Schaltegger" wrote in message
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Actually, no. They have to do it with triple the payload: three people,
not just one pilot. And they have to do it again within two weeks, not
a month or two (or three) between each flight.


No, they have to do it with the MASS of 3 people, but it only requires one
actual person.


As I pointed out in response to Christopher Jones, that's an example of
form-over-substance.

If you're going to water down the requirements so far, why bother with
one person at all? Why not just track down Ham's great-grandkid and let
him or her duplicate the flight of his ancestor? Bah.

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Old June 3rd 04, 01:07 AM
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Herb Schaltegger wrote:
Actually, no. They have to do it with triple the payload: three people,
not just one pilot. And they have to do it again within two weeks, not
a month or two (or three) between each flight.


Nope. They only have to demonstrate the payload and
volume, they need only one person to actually make the
flights. They can do a "how many people can fit in
the phonebooth" ground test and carry sand bags to 100 km.
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Old June 3rd 04, 01:37 AM
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In article ,
"Christopher M. Jones" wrote:

Herb Schaltegger wrote:
Actually, no. They have to do it with triple the payload: three people,
not just one pilot. And they have to do it again within two weeks, not
a month or two (or three) between each flight.


Nope. They only have to demonstrate the payload and
volume, they need only one person to actually make the
flights. They can do a "how many people can fit in
the phonebooth" ground test and carry sand bags to 100 km.


An excellent example of form-over-substance in the mission requirements
if I've ever heard one. That gets a definite "Harrrrrrumph!" from me.
Has Scaled been ballasting their test flights so far? I haven't seen
anything too technical in their press releases.

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Old June 2nd 04, 11:46 PM
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Joe Strout wrote:

In article ,
Hop David wrote:

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches...te_040602.html


Hot damn! The X-Prize will be won in less than three weeks. This will
be a historic occasion.


Nope. The June 21 attempt will not meet the requirements of an
X-Prize flight.

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