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It is my suspicion, therefore, that a refracting telescope based on H.
D. Taylor's design _would_ provide views of the heavens that were absolutely stunning There is nothing earth shattering about Taylor's design. It uses one abnormal dispersion flint in triplet configuration to achieve a modest reduction of secondary spectrum, not 10x less. Using NORMAL glasses in any kind of configuration, doublet, triplet, quadruplet etc. will yield the same color correction as any normal achromat, no matter how you bend the glass. To get any reduction of secondary spectrum requires at least one abnormal glass that lies off the Abbe line, and this includes short flints, and ED/fluorite glasses. If you have doubts about what I say, then join the ATM Optics software group and pose it as a challenge to the members: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ATM_Optics_Software/ Or you can do some design yourself and will quickly learn what is real and what is imaginary in optic land. Roland Christen |
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a refracting telescope based on H. D. Taylor's design
There is nothing earth shattering about Taylor's design. It uses one abnormal dispersion flint in triplet configuration to achieve a modest reduction of secondary spectrum, not 10x less. It is unclear if this response was to Taylor's 'Cooke Triplet', as titled, or to Taylor's 'Photovisual' triplet, as described. But Taylor's Photovisual was a very significant advance beyond the refractors of its day. Abbe / Zeiss and C. Hastings were involved in similar work, but Taylor was right there with them, and Cooke was ahead of them in production, which was unfortunate since the glass deteriorated badly. Some details on the glass, and more text than I really should send out in a post to a newsgroup, are below, part of a text on HDT found on my site: ---- In 1892, when Taylor was 30, came the introduction of Taylor's ambitious design, the Cooke Photo Visual telescope objective, patent 17,994/92; probably the first triplet apochromat, using new Schott glass. These objectives could be used as photographic or visual telescopes, since the color correction extended across a wide range of colors. They were made f18, although faster scopes were possible, f18 provided superior achromatism, a larger plate scale, and allowed fabrication of shallower spherical surfaces. The design suffers from steep curves on the center element, a 5 inch negative center element was polished to .07 inch thick at mid-diameter. Even at f18, the center element of this objective requires two concave surfaces of steep curvature, making this element very thick & limiting the aperture of the lens. As of 1894, the glass elements were as follows: The outer element was biconvex and of Schott baryta light flint (O 543), index of refraction 1.564 for the D ray, reciprocal of dispersive power 50.6. The center element was biconcave, of a new Schott borosilicate flint (a type of O 164), with an IR of 1.547 and reciprocal of dispersive power 50.2. The inner element was a meniscus of a light silicate crown glass of lower dispersion than standard crown (Schott O 374), an IR of 1.511, reciprocal of dispersive power 60.4. Both pairs of inner surfaces had matching profiles. The rear surface had a radius of curvature roughly equal to twice the focal length Dispersion was corrected by controlling the radii of the elements. The air space between the second and third elements was critical and used to correct sphereochromatism. The image plane was flat and free of coma over a few degrees. The lens is not particularly sensitive to squaring on, and can be squared using the rear concave surface in autocollimation. Fabrication of the glass elements is not difficult, with three concave surfaces, and the two inner convex surfaces have the same curvature as the adjacent concave surface. After the three concave surfaces were tested, defective figuring of the inner convex surfaces was detected by introducing liquid between the surfaces, if the defects disappear, then a fault is suspected in the concave surface under test. The P-V lens was fitted in a cell especially designed for this objective. The steep curves needed for the center element meant that it had to be very precisely centered in its cell, for any lateral motion introduced significant coma. A metal cell that would restrain the lens at a very cold temperature would expand with heat, and at a higher temperature would allow the lens to move unless it was restrained. All refractors have this problem, but this objective has a tolerance for centering errors that is far tighter than others. Temperature compensation is therefore necessary, and the cell design must factor the coefficients of expansion for the glasses and for the cell components. Smaller photovisual objectives used a modification of the standard cell, and to center the elements there were three protrusions from the inner wall, one of which was spring loaded. It was probably Frederick Cooke who designed the cell used for larger objectives. The inner wall used three equidistant small blocks to restrain the lens elements; two bronze blocks fixed to the bronze cell, and a third block made of two sliding bronze wedges. Each wedge is carried on a thick strip of zinc, that is as wide as the cell is tall and lays against the inner wall of the cell, from one fixed block to one of the wedges. Each zinc strip is attached at its end to a fixed block and free to move with its bronze wedge. An increase in temperature causes expansion of the outer bronze cell, which would loosen the lens elements. However, zinc has a much higher coefficient of expansion than does bronze, and the zinc strips expand even more, to force the wedges together, which widens the split block as one wedge rides against the other. Compensation for temperature is controlled by the composition and dimensions of the zinc strips and by the angle at which the wedges are cut. These are very precise assemblies, the glass and metal fitted to a few thousandths of an inch. Cooke warned users that the screws in the outer case of the cell held the zinc strips in place and should not be turned. During assembly or disassembly, any tilting of lens elements will cause them to be wedged, and the center element has a slightly rounded profile to prevent this. In the 1900 catalog of T. Cooke & Sons, P-Vs were available with apertures from 3 inches, at 20 pounds; to 15 inch at 800 pounds; and "special quotations will be given for larger sizes". The photo visual objective is described as free from secondary spectrum and from spherochromism, as follows: "total abolition of the secondary spectrum" "...free from spherical aberration for all colours simultaneously" "....largest possible field of good definition" ".....The curves are such that a ray parallel to the optic axis, traced through the margin of the objective, enters and leaves the flint lens at approximately equal angles....This condition secures freedom from optical effects of flexure" (this refers to any sagging of the thin flint element in the cell). The 1900 catalog includes testimonials from customers of the P-V, including The Observatory at the Cape of Good Hope, whose 8 inch P-V was used by David Gill. Edward Crossley bought a 9 inch in 1895, to replace his 9.3 inch objective in the Cooke telescope he purchased in 1867. Norman Lockyer wrote in 1898, after four years of use; he found the P-V lenses to be excellent collimators for spectroscopes, because all colors exited parallel. He also used them for telescopic objectives for spectroscopy, which allowed focusing to both ends of the spectrum without a swing back. P-Vs were used by Lockyer in spectroheliographs to image two monochromatic images, of different wavelengths, on one plate. A catalog circa 1930 from Cooke, Troughton & Simms, carries the P-V model; 4 inch aperture for 40 pounds, to 12 inch at 720 pounds. Since these are f18s, thus the 12 inch is 18 feet in length; and the catalog notes that lenses have been made up to f60 in focal ratio. The objectives were fitted into the standard Cooke tubes, but the tube was then lined with non-reflective material; and a larger focuser was available, since the focuser could "be made to pass a field of view one inch less than the aperture of the object glass". This catalog also lists telescopic doublet achromats to 26 inches aperture. Henry King notes that a photovisual objective is a compromise, that does not permit the most precise positional astronomy. It is designed to allow the user to visually focus the instrument and insert a photographic plate without refocusing, but they did not replace instruments dedicated to astrometry. Taylor also wrote about compromises, in the 1896 edition of ATTO, that since the P-V was most used with Huyghenian eyepieces, the color correction of the P-V was overcorrected to be fully achromatic when used with a Huyghenian eyepiece at a magnification of 50 times the aperture, or 200 on a 4 inch glass. At lower powers than this, the telescope is undercorrected, at higher powers it is overcorrected. These effects are very small but illustrate the compromises that are part of optical design. This lens was by far the best available during its time, and was a genuine advance in the technology of telescope objectives. P-V telescopes were offered up to 15 inches aperture, but the largest known P-V models are two 12.5 inch aperture telescopes, one for Rio de Janeiro in 1894. The other was made for Robert Ball at Cambridge Observatory, mounted in the Sheepshanks polar coude telescope designed by Howard Grubb, and used for astrometry. This telescope was decommissioned and in 1947, the objective was moved to the Northumberland equatorial telescope, which had an identical focal length. In 1988, it was replaced with a doublet by Jim Hysom of AE Optics. Like all P-V lenses, it had a problem: every 20 years, it needed repolishing. There was a severe problem hidden in the objective. The borosilicate glass used for the center element was a new innovation from Schott, and Taylor had not learned that some of the exotic elements in the glass were reactive and would chemically react to air, moisture, and pollution. The glass inevitably loses its transparency with a very fine crazing or frost. All three elements can be hazed. All P-V lenses require reworking every 20 years, more or less, usually less. The 12.5 inch objective for Cambridge retained an acceptable polish for about 25 years, and the center element had been repolished three times by the mid 1970s. The second reworking, circa 1950, left the element quite thin and necessitated careful handling and reassembly. The third polishing was in 1972 and the reworked lens was very difficult to align and maintain in centration. Adding to the difficulties was the loss of orientation marks on the perimeter of the elements. Other photo-visual objectives did not endure this long. Norman Lockyer equipped his Solar Physics Observatory with 6 P-V lenses of 3 to 12 inches aperture, and within 2 to 7 years, all were marked with a fine crystal growth on internal surfaces. Lockyer notes that some lenses were kept in a well heated room, and those require close examination to detect the hazing. Others were used under varying temperatures, though well ventilated, and the problem was severe. The inner surfaces of the front and especially the back elements were the problem areas, and not the borosilicate center element. Water vapor was believed to be the cause, glass absorbs water, which liberates the alkaline components in the glass, forming carbonates on the surface. Lockyer notes that it is quite difficult to replace a lens in its cell with the proper centration, and therefore only one lens was disassembled. Taylor's 1907 reply to Lockyer notes that in damp climates such as Calcutta, the crystallization has been found to corrode the polished glass surface. From the 1907 JBAA, in a reply to Lockyer's problems, Taylor objects, that the lenses were older than Lockyer's text would indicate; "the objectives were put together....at least 12 months" before the telescope was mounted. Taylor continues, that sulphuric acid treatment was successful, the lens retained it's polish during the treatment, and only in areas like Calcutta has the crystallization mandated a repolishing. Crossley's 9 inch objective, from 1895, was moved to New Zealand in 1907, and is now at Carter Observatory. The lens was shipped back for repolishing to Cooke & Sons in 1914, and again in 1950-51 to Grubb Parsons. It now has a new matte finish, and in addition has suffered from water seepage. The inner lens is slightly hazed from deposits of alkali carbonate but is still polished. In the sequence of journal articles and catalogs during the first decade of this century, Lockyer first appears as an impressed consumer in the 1900 catalog, with a testimonial from 1898, and by 1907, he was writing for MNRAS that he'd had problems for seven years. Taylor and Cooke defend the materials used, writing in many publications & speaking to many meetings. Already in 1894, Taylor was writing that a year & a half of experiments allows Cooke to guarantee the permanence of the P-V objective. He continues with the first publication of his idea that a tarnished lens surface transmits more light than a freshly polished one; claiming that even if some slight tarnishing were to take place over many years, as is typical for flint glasses, that would not necessarily have any ill effect. (MNRAS 54:5, 1894) It is possible that his work as a pioneer of lens coating had its genesis in problems with the P-V. Howard Grubb was quoted that 20 years experience was needed for claims of permanence. In April 1894, 'The Observatory' printed a reply from Cooke & Sons, defending its use of the glass by mentioning consultations, experiments, and visits to Jena. Both firms were rather strident and antagonistic. In the May 1894 issue of Astronomy & Astrophysics, during the third year of production of the P-V, an anonymous reviewer notes that the interior lens is 'slightly liable' to tarnishing, but that "Cooke & Sons guarantee the permanence of objectives". Taylor replied to the article with a longer rebuttal, describing the haze on the glass as 'iridescent but perfectly transparent', a product of gas lamps, and that pure damp air has no effect on the glass. In any case, the inner surfaces of the objective is 'hermetically sealed'. A new melt of Schott glass will be modified to further perfect the lens. There are questions about the nature of the tarnish. In the 1896, second edition of ATTO, chapter 15 is added, on care of objectives, and 'tarnish' is described as a 'transparent film of varnish' that viewed in reflection appears a dull grey brown or blue, and occurs on flint elements after a few years. Tarnish is described as not a "dull milky film, visible by scattered light". In 1896, Cooke & Sons had not yet seen any 'milky decomposition' in their glass; though they had "heard of it taking place with certain phosphate glasses in tropical countries". From the 1900 catalog: "nonwithstanding certain unsympathetic criticism which has proved too hasty.....Cooke & Sons can testify to the permanence of the glass." Jumping forward 80 years, the 1983 edition of ATTO reprinted the 1897 instructions for the P-V, noting in the 1983 preface that 'corrosive industrial atmospheres' can attack some of the glass types. In retrospect, all known Cooke Photo-Visual triplets have become hazed to the extent that the objective is unusable. The sequence of tarnish to haze is variable with humidity, temperature, and time. In response to these problems, Cooke issued cleaning instructions, offered factory service, tried & adopted new glasses as they became available, and very much tried to put the problems in the best possible light. Cooke & Sons described the tarnish as a controlled, predictable, beneficial process. For example, in the 1921 article, "A New Anastigmatic...Telescope", p73, Taylor writes: "In the telescope described in the present paper about 40 per cent of the light is transmitted when the surfaces are freshly polished. About five of the surfaces retain their polish, while the others tarnish and then transmit more light." Jena made apochromatic doublets, and the U.S. made Hastings doublets, used glass that deteriorated similarly or worse. Schott had deleted O 374, the borosilicate used in the center element, by 1907, because it was 'wanting in permanency'. Taylor replaced it with O 599, and objectives made after 1907 had a third glass recommended by Schott. Lockyer's problem objectives used the earlier formation, and those using 599 were the less hazed. -- ============================================= Peter Abrahams telscope.at.europa.dot.com The history of the telescope and the binocular: http://home.europa.com/~telscope/binotele.htm |
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"Peter Abrahams" telscope.at.europa.dot.com wrote in message
4... a refracting telescope based on H. D. Taylor's design There is nothing earth shattering about Taylor's design. It uses one abnormal dispersion flint in triplet configuration to achieve a modest reduction of secondary spectrum, not 10x less. It is unclear if this response was to Taylor's 'Cooke Triplet', as titled, or to Taylor's 'Photovisual' triplet, as described. But Taylor's Photovisual was a very significant advance beyond the refractors of its day. Abbe / Zeiss and C. Hastings were involved in similar work, but Taylor was right there with them, and Cooke was ahead of them in production, which was unfortunate since the glass deteriorated badly. Some details on the glass, and more text than I really should send out in a post to a newsgroup, are below, part of a text on HDT found on my site: ---- SNIP! Interesting read. Thanks! -- Jan Owen To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address... Latitude: 33.662 Longitude: -112.3272 |
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Peter Abrahams telscope.at.europa.dot.com wrote in message . 44...
a refracting telescope based on H. D. Taylor's design But Taylor's Photovisual was a very significant advance beyond the refractors of its day. Abbe / Zeiss and C. Hastings were involved in similar work, but Taylor was right there with them, and Cooke was ahead of them in production, which was unfortunate since the glass deteriorated badly. Not true. We have one such 7" Cook triplet here in three miles from my home. It works just fine. VD |
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