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Shuttle Foam Test Yields Hole in Wing
Columbia Investigators Fire Foam Insulation at Shuttle Wing, Blowing Open 2-Foot Hole The Associated Press SAN ANTONIO July 7 — The team investigating the Columbia disaster fired a chunk of foam insulation at shuttle wing parts Monday and blew open a gaping 2-foot hole, offering dramatic evidence to support the theory of what doomed the spaceship. The crowd of about 100 gasped and cried, "Wow!" when the foam hit. The foam struck roughly the same spot where insulation that broke off Columbia's big external fuel tank during launch smashed into the shuttle's wing. Investigators believe the damage led to the ship's destruction during re-entry over Texas in February, killing all seven astronauts. It was the seventh and final foam-impact test by the Columbia Accident Investigation Board, and it yielded by far the most severe damage. The 1.67-pound piece of fuel tank foam insulation shot out of a 35-foot nitrogen-pressurized gun and slammed into a carbon-reinforced panel removed from shuttle Atlantis. The countdown boomed through loudspeakers, and the crack of the foam coming out at more than 500 mph reverberated in the field where the test was conducted. Twelve high-speed cameras six inside the wing mock-up and six outside captured the event. Hundreds of sensors registered movements, stresses and other conditions. NASA will continue gathering more information about the poorly understood pieces that line the vulnerable leading edges of shuttle wings, board member Scott Hubbard said. One month ago, another carbon shuttle wing panel smaller and farther inboard was cracked by the impact, in addition to an adjoining seal. This time, the entire 11 1/2-inch width of the foam chunk rather than just a corner during previous tests hit the wing, putting maximum stress on the suspect area. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030707_1189.html |
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Rusty B wrote:
Shuttle Foam Test Yields Hole in Wing Columbia Investigators Fire Foam Insulation at Shuttle Wing, Blowing Open 2-Foot Hole The Associated Press SAN ANTONIO July 7 — The team investigating the Columbia disaster fired a chunk of foam insulation at shuttle wing parts Monday and blew open a gaping 2-foot hole, offering dramatic evidence to support the theory of what doomed the spaceship. The crowd of about 100 gasped and cried, "Wow!" when the foam hit. In the immortal words of Rosanne Rosanna Dana, Well now, that's different. |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:21:00 +0200, Kegwasher wrote:
In the immortal words of Rosanne Rosanna Dana, Well now, that's different. I think that was Emily Litella ![]() Dale |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:21:00 +0200, Kegwasher
wrote: In the immortal words of Rosanne Rosanna Dana, Well now, that's different. ....Emily Litella, actually. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:21:00 +0200, Kegwasher
wrote: SAN ANTONIO July 7 — The team investigating the Columbia disaster fired a chunk of foam insulation at shuttle wing parts Monday and blew open a gaping 2-foot hole, offering dramatic evidence to support the theory of what doomed the spaceship. The crowd of about 100 gasped and cried, "Wow!" when the foam hit. Well now, that's different. Or, "let's keep firing bigger pieces of foam at the wing until we get results that match our theory..." Nevermind that the foam chunks are now much larger and travelling much faster than the computer models predict for STS-107. I don't want to start sounding like JTM, but there seems to be something a little weird about these tests. Brian |
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Brian Thorn wrote:
Nevermind that the foam chunks are now much larger and travelling much faster than the computer models predict for STS-107. I don't want to start sounding like JTM, but there seems to be something a little weird about these tests. The foam is the same mass as used on earlier tests, I believe. The impact energy also is a function of how fast the foam was spinning, and the damage is a function of whether the foam hits flat side on or edge on (the latter delivers the impulse over a longer period, for a lower maximum force.) BTW, I hope those persons who were arguing against improved photography will now have the grace to reconsider their positions. Paul |
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![]() "Brian Thorn" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:21:00 +0200, Kegwasher wrote: SAN ANTONIO July 7 - The team investigating the Columbia disaster fired a chunk of foam insulation at shuttle wing parts Monday and blew open a gaping 2-foot hole, offering dramatic evidence to support the theory of what doomed the spaceship. The crowd of about 100 gasped and cried, "Wow!" when the foam hit. Well now, that's different. Or, "let's keep firing bigger pieces of foam at the wing until we get results that match our theory..." Nevermind that the foam chunks are now much larger and travelling much faster than the computer models predict for STS-107. I don't want to start sounding like JTM, but there seems to be something a little weird about these tests. Brian The best estimate of the foam size/impact speed is 1240 cubic inches/775 fps, according to Scott Hubbard's May 13 press briefing (http://www.caib.us/news/press_briefi...3_present.html, slide 9). The foam size for the June 6 test was 1391 cubic inches (calculated from dimensions), weight 1.68 lbs, and the the impact velocity 768 fps, according to Scott Hubbard's June 12 press briefing (http://www.caib.us/news/press_briefi...2_present.html). According to Hubbard's June 24 briefing, the target foam size in all the tests is 1.67 lbs and the target speed of impact is 775 fps (http://www.caib.us/news/press_briefings/rt030624.html). According to William Harwood (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttl...707impacttest/) the foam weighed 1.67 lbs and the impact speed was "over 500 mph". 775 fps = 528 mph. Thus the foam size is slightly larger than the best estimate of Columbia foam size, possibly to take rotational kinetic energy into account, and the impact speed is the same. Why do you think there's something wrong with the tests? Murray Anderson |
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:17:28 -0400, "Murray Anderson"
wrote: Thus the foam size is slightly larger than the best estimate of Columbia foam size, possibly to take rotational kinetic energy into account, and the impact speed is the same. Why do you think there's something wrong with the tests? It seems to me that they're adjusting the tests to fit the theory ('there was a hole in the RCC') instead of performing the tests and adjusting the theory to fit observed results. They started with a 2" crack as a result of the test. Then they tested again and got a bigger crack and a loose T-Seal. Now they've gotten a big honkin' hole in the RCC. Well, if they fire 100 lbs of foam, I bet they can take the whole wing off. Is that tomorrow's test? Brian |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:10:52 GMT, Brian Thorn
wrote: It seems to me that they're adjusting the tests to fit the theory ('there was a hole in the RCC') instead of performing the tests and adjusting the theory to fit observed results. ....Hardly. The early tests pretty much matched the tests to a "T"(*), and had the tests included atmospheric ascent drag for the full duration from launch to orbit, we would probably have seen more fracturing. Subsequent tests are to validate existing test results, as well as push envelopes. Bottom Line: There hasn't been any need to adjust the theory because the tests so far have pretty much confirmed it's accurate as-is. (*) No pun intended, natch. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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Brian Thorn wrote in
: They started with a 2" crack as a result of the test. Then they tested again and got a bigger crack and a loose T-Seal. Now they've gotten a big honkin' hole in the RCC. Well, if they fire 100 lbs of foam, I bet they can take the whole wing off. Is that tomorrow's test? It was my impression that the tests used the same foam mass and speed, and the main variables were 1) the first RCC test used an (age unknown) panel 6 while today's used panel 8 from Discovery (the fleet leader), and 2) the angle of impact (corner vs. full-side). If any of those impressions are incorrect, please correct me. -- JRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. |
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